RichL85 666 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Went through the SuperSpeed protocol yesterday afternoon after warming up a bit first. 10mph higher compared to the early morning session on Thursday. Guess there is something to be said for warming up properly. Also spent some time working on the left wrist and came to two conclusions. My swing speeds up substantially when I feel like I speed up my backswing. In actuality, it's a tiny fraction of a second faster, but I was seeing about 5mph more on clubhead speed. I honestly think my brain gets too focused on details and manipulations rather than just freely swinging the golf club. The longer I have to think about it the worse it can get. As far as actually manipulating the left wrist like I need to, the only feel that seems to stick is the idea of turning the back of my left hand to the ground. 4 Quote Driver: Srixon Z565, Miyazaki Kaula Mizu 3 Wood: Snake Eyes Viper Tour, Aldila NV Hybrids: Snake Eyes Viper Tour 18 and 24 deg, Aldila NV Irons: Srixon I-701 5-PW, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 Wedges: Callaway X-Forged 50, 54, and 58, Nippon Modus3 Wedge 115 Putter: Yes! Marilyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc 12,445 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 More swinging this weekend. Haven't really been working on anything in particular other than making sure my setup is good. Tweaked my front foot so that it was out beyond my left armpit, which in turn made it easier to launch the ball because my low point shifted to inside of my feet and not in front of it. All of my left misses pretty much went away and I added some more height and carry to my shots. I say I haven't really been working at much in particular because truthfully my only swing thought lately has been to not really have a swing thought. Just have been swinging using the Mevo+ and foot powder and just doing whatever to get it long and off the center of the club face. Crappy angle 8 iron and 54 wedge swings from today below. 6 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 6.2 / Anti-Cap: 11.7 (Last Updated June 26, 2022) Driver: Callaway Epic Max LS (9°), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Club Champion Fitting 17° Hybrid: Callaway Super Hybrid, 41.5", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX 21° Hybrid: Callaway Epic Flash, 40", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", UST Mamiya Recoil 110 F5 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: CaddyTek Caddylite EZ V8 | Unofficial Review Currently Testing: Edel SMS Wedges WITB? | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PankaGolf 406 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Bought a new spider(again) so rolled the ball indoors today, rolling great on carpet will see on the green stuff next month. playing the reopened Dundonald Links better find some game to take. 1 Quote "C'mon be good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B 33,409 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I found out that I can't take a full swing with my 60º in my hitting bay... I hit the ceiling (which is a metal roof) before the net. My, that was loud!! 4 4 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DStar 1,437 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) Had my 1st driving lesson with the pro on Friday. Have been struggling with with a bit of a slice so wanting to get rid of that.. Mostly good - set up, ball position, hands, alignment etc just need to widen my takeaway. Gave me a couple of pointers and was much better by the end of the lesson. Good to get some feedback on my GC2 numbers too. Average 158mph ball speed, 280y carry, 2200 rpm spin after dropping the head to 7.5°. Edited January 10 by DStar 7 Quote RADSpeed 9° Matrix Black Tie X-Flex F9 3/4 Wood Aldila NV 2KXV Blue CLK 19° Hybrid Speeder Evo HB S MP54 4-PW Nippon Modus³ Tour 115 X SM8 50° F-Grind SM8 54° F-Grind SM8 58° K-Grind DStar 'Malvern' Putter AVX & -ProV1X Tour-X "Hey mister, your clubs are the wrong way round".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haro 532 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Trying to regain lost SS by watching some old video of my self swing when I use to have faster swing speed. One thing that helped was allowing my head to drop I would be able to squat and allow my head to drop with my squat. I would prefer to position my head more over my rear leg when I squat To complete the swing I feel like preset my pelvis to be open to turn better Then all I had to do was turn on the upswing. Why the forward swing is called downswing I don’t know cause with the modern driver I m swinging up not down. I think in the old day was different in that the iron and driver swing was down I think I lost that core driven swing in my old age and also i been focusing on putting and one of the fundamental is keeping my head from turning and moving up and down in the putting stroke as I try to strive for upper shoulder pendulum stroke This has certainly affected the dynamics of the swing which is more driven by the pelvis and leg as the kinetic change sequencing moves uP to the arms. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR 9,607 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 7 hours ago, Haro said: I would prefer to position my head more over my rear leg when I squat If your head is over your rear leg you moved way off the ball and you have a large portion of your body mass on the rear leg. That’s going to lead to a lot of compensations and inconsistencies. Watch face on views of any of the pros and see how many have their head over the rear leg or even body mass that far back. You want pressure but not mass. Watch athletic motion golf, portal golf, Chris Ryan golf on YouTube to name a few. You will see good ideas for how to move and how to get some speed p 7 hours ago, Haro said: Why the forward swing is called downswing I don’t know cause with the modern driver I m swinging up not down. The golf swing has a takeaway which is to the point of club being parallel to the ground. Then the is the backswing which is to whatever point a person gets to the top the swing and where the transition happens. It’s called the downswing because at this point the club has to move down to get to impact. Post impact is the follow thru. 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haro 532 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 4 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: If your head is over your rear leg you moved way off the ball and you have a large portion of your body mass on the rear leg. That’s going to lead to a lot of compensations and inconsistencies. Watch face on views of any of the pros and see how many have their head over the rear leg or even body mass that far back. You want pressure but not mass. Watch athletic motion golf, portal golf, Chris Ryan golf on YouTube to name a few. You will see good ideas for how to move and how to get some speed p The golf swing has a takeaway which is to the point of club being parallel to the ground. Then the is the backswing which is to whatever point a person gets to the top the swing and where the transition happens. It’s called the downswing because at this point the club has to move down to get to impact. Post impact is the follow thru. I tried the center head position, I just dont have the athletic motion to squat on both leg like those who do on a trampoline. I feel more comfortable when my head mass is more over inside of my right foot instep and so when I lower my pelvis to squat I feel more springy in the right leg. I think the ideal is to have centered head position but there are variation like the S&T where the head mass is closer to the left foot I think as long as its not too extreme on one side or the other the swing will work , I feel I will develop swing speed if I have weight and pressure on my right hip to start the motion I guess if the modern driver , too swing up is KIng to distance so in the last few years with the observation of certain players like Justin Thomas that "jump" I believe that the downswing is club moves down and then up again to make contact with the ball not just "down"so I think the terminology downswing should be replaced by forward swing Just my 2 cents Edited January 11 by Haro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR 9,607 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, Haro said: I tried the center head position, I just dont have the athletic motion to squat on both leg like those who do on a trampoline. I feel more comfortable when my head mass is more over inside of my right foot instep and so when I lower my pelvis to squat I feel more springy in the right leg. I think the ideal is to have centered head position but there are variation like the S&T where the head mass is closer to the left foot I think as long as its not too extreme on one side or the other the swing will work , I feel I will develop swing speed if I have weight and pressure on my right hip to start the motion I guess if the modern driver , too swing up is KIng to distance so in the last few years with the observation of certain players like Justin Thomas that "jump" I believe that the downswing is club moves down and then up again to make contact with the ball not just "down"so I think the terminology downswing should be replaced by forward swing Just my 2 cents Yes the center head is ideal it’s how all the good players do it. If you look at any of the swings there is slight head movement laterally and vertically and there’s a range of what that movement is bit it’s still relatively centered. If you draw a circle around the head the head will move in the circle. Yes in s&t the head/mass is more lead side focused which works because there’s no lateral movement that has to recover to get back to the ball. Moving mass laterally you not only have to get back to where you started at address but that little extra to get slightly ahead of the ball. There’s just not that much time in the swing to do that. Athletic motion golf has tons of videos on this. People have more athletic motion and ability to rotate than they realize. The problem is bad mechanics lead to improper rotation and lack of ability to rotate. I’ve seen George Gankas post videos of senior golfers in their 70s and 80s that claimed they couldn’t rotate anymore actually rotate more in less than an hour. Like your putting you have a lot of thoughts and feels going on at one time and they are going to lead to inconsistencies in contact and play. If you time them up just right you may have a good day but if they are off a bad day can become a really bad day. I would suggest finding an instructor to work with that will use how your bodyis built to develop a swing that works for that. Swinging up isn’t a guarantee for distance and not required. It’s optimal for most amateurs because they don’t have the swing speed to hit the ball far with a negative aoa and end up adding spin because of their swings. Hitting up allows them to come from the inside and giving the chance to reduce spin and improve launch conditions. But what many amateurs don’t realize is hitting to up on the ball is just as bad. Thomas, Lexi and others aren’t just jumping. It’s the result of how they are using the ground and their feet. Lexi does it to help create room in her swing. But still doesn’t change the terminology used to describe each part of the swing but you can call it whatever you want. 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haro 532 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Yes the center head is ideal it’s how all the good players do it. If you look at any of the swings there is slight head movement laterally and vertically and there’s a range of what that movement is bit it’s still relatively centered. If you draw a circle around the head the head will move in the circle. Yes in s&t the head/mass is more lead side focused which works because there’s no lateral movement that has to recover to get back to the ball. Moving mass laterally you not only have to get back to where you started at address but that little extra to get slightly ahead of the ball. There’s just not that much time in the swing to do that. Athletic motion golf has tons of videos on this. People have more athletic motion and ability to rotate than they realize. The problem is bad mechanics lead to improper rotation and lack of ability to rotate. I’ve seen George Gankas post videos of senior golfers in their 70s and 80s that claimed they couldn’t rotate anymore actually rotate more in less than an hour. Like your putting you have a lot of thoughts and feels going on at one time and they are going to lead to inconsistencies in contact and play. If you time them up just right you may have a good day but if they are off a bad day can become a really bad day. I would suggest finding an instructor to work with that will use how your bodyis built to develop a swing that works for that. Swinging up isn’t a guarantee for distance and not required. It’s optimal for most amateurs because they don’t have the swing speed to hit the ball far with a negative aoa and end up adding spin because of their swings. Hitting up allows them to come from the inside and giving the chance to reduce spin and improve launch conditions. But what many amateurs don’t realize is hitting to up on the ball is just as bad. Thomas, Lexi and others aren’t just jumping. It’s the result of how they are using the ground and their feet. Lexi does it to help create room in her swing. But still doesn’t change the terminology used to describe each part of the swing but you can call it whatever you want. I find putting my weight toward the foot by having my head justly foreward of center makes the swing simpler aas advocated by S&T S&T works great for the irons but i didnt like it for my driver swing. Yes I overthinking this I swing better when i just allowed head to move with my golf swing I think I forgotten that the swing starts form the ground up and been too overly focus with manipulation my head positions Edited January 11 by Haro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie 17,328 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Got to hit a lot of balls at the range, primarily just doing drills. Hit 30 shots at the end as though I were playing. 7 Quote Driver: King F9 Speedback/Epic Max LS, Xphlexxx Busa 2 Liquid, XX stiff, 45” Fwy: Epic Speed 4w, MMT 80X Hybrid: X2 Hot Pro, 20*, Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 105X Irons: TR20 Tour P 4-10, Modus 130 stiff, +1” Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 All but putter have Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Calibrate midsize built to oversize +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Syks7 1,071 Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 I've had several range sessions since my last round. Not overdoing it, just hitting a medium bucket at a slow pace. As I mentioned before my instructor is trying to get me to drop the club into the slot P5/P6 before firing through on the downswing -- that counteracts my steepness and outside in swing path. So I've just been plugging away on drills for this, focusing on body position, club position, and weight transfer. It's all over exaggerated and I bet it looks like I'm really struggling to put a swing together to other folks. It's been a whole lot of normal takeaway, pause, let hands and club drop into the slot while transferring weight forward, pause, swing through the ball. I'm referencing my club position and body position with alignment sticks and checking where I'm at during the pauses. It's a little tedious, but I'm trying to teach myself a 'feel' for where I need to be in the swing and it's starting to get there. From the stop start stuff I'll do some half swing drills starting from P6 to work on contact (it looks like I'm pitching/chipping without a backswing) then work into slow speed full swings before trying to drop all the mechanic thoughts to just focus on hitting the ball for the last 20 or so. It's going to take a while, but the improvements in contact are visible when I get the sequence right. The toe miss that was effectively my stock shot before is now much more center of the club face and it feels easier to make good contact without having to do anything weird (like line up between hosel and sweet spot). I'm mixing in pitch/chip practice too and that's feeling pretty okay as well. An added bonus is that the weather has been great and I got one of LA's famous sunsets behind me while I practiced on Monday. Got a round tomorrow so let's hope it's a little more feast than famine this time. 10 Quote Driver: 2016 M2 -- Fujikara ventus red 3 Wood RBZ Stage 2 - Diamana Blue Board 2 Hybrid RBZ Stage 2 -- True Temper Elevate Tour (shares duty with 3I depending on the day) 699pro - 3I Driving Iron KBS Tour (shares duty with the 2 hybrid depending on the day) 699pro - 4I, 5I - 639CB 6/PW -- True Temper Elevate Elevate Tour RSI2 -- 4/PW- Nippon Modus 115 (Testing) Cleveland CBX2 48° & 54°-- TT Elevate Tour Hi Toe 58° -- TT Elevate Tour Innovai 6.0 CTR Ball: Zstar XV Divide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrish777 48 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Spent an hour this evening going from this To this Weather was great so finished with around 30 drivers. No luck in getting rid of the 2 way miss, golf Gods are not with me at the moment. 8 Quote Wilson Staff FG Tour F5 Driver Wilson Staff FG Tour F5 Irons Mizuno MP R12 Wedges TM Daytona 1 Rossa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag 18,575 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Amrish777 said: No luck in getting rid of the 2 way miss, golf Gods are not with me at the moment. ... Oh the golf Gods are always with you, just not always on your side. 8 Quote Driver: LTDx 10.5* ... LinQ M40X 6F3 Fairway: SIM2 Max 15/16.5/18* ... Tensei Raw Blue 65R Utility: UDi 18* ... Even Flow Black 85R DHy 19* ... Diamana Ltd 65R Sim Hybrid 22* ... Diamana Ltd 75R Irons: 5-Pw Forged Tec ... Steelfiber i80R Wedges: MG3 50*/MG3 58* LB ... Steelfiber i95R Putter: Hunting Beach Soft 11S 33.5" Ball: Maxfli Tour '22/TP5x '21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichL85 666 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 16 hours ago, Syks7 said: An added bonus is that the weather has been great and I got one of LA's famous sunsets behind me while I practiced on Monday. Got a round tomorrow so let's hope it's a little more feast than famine this time. I do enjoy the sunsets in that area. I travel to Santa Clarita for work a few times a month. Certainly beats what I see in the valley on a normal basis. 3 Quote Driver: Srixon Z565, Miyazaki Kaula Mizu 3 Wood: Snake Eyes Viper Tour, Aldila NV Hybrids: Snake Eyes Viper Tour 18 and 24 deg, Aldila NV Irons: Srixon I-701 5-PW, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 Wedges: Callaway X-Forged 50, 54, and 58, Nippon Modus3 Wedge 115 Putter: Yes! Marilyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacassem 16,698 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 43 minutes ago, Amrish777 said: Spent an hour this evening going from this To this Weather was great so finished with around 30 drivers. No luck in getting rid of the 2 way miss, golf Gods are not with me at the moment. Oh I like this might have to get a bucket and do it. Anyone complain taking a section of the green? 3 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review WITB: Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2019 P790 4-PW - Project X 6.5 LZ 48 (SM8), 52, 56, 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Thank you to all those that have served/are serving and God Bless America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrish777 48 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 9 minutes ago, Lacassem said: Oh I like this might have to get a bucket and do it. Anyone complain taking a section of the green? Nope, everyone is happy to keep their distance at the moment. Chipping green is pretty quiet in the evenings. With today being the first day of school - i would have thought the rest of the parents would be thinking like me! 4 Quote Wilson Staff FG Tour F5 Driver Wilson Staff FG Tour F5 Irons Mizuno MP R12 Wedges TM Daytona 1 Rossa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyMatt89 893 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Stuck at home with work but rolled 100 putts on my perfect putting mat. I think it will actually help me more than a range session would. 4 Quote Driver: Rogue ST 9 Ventus Black 6TX Fairway: TSi2 16.5 Accra RPZ Tour 472 M5+ Hybrid: G410 23 Ventus Blue 10X Irons: Apex TCB 5-AW Modus 130X T100 4 iron Modus 130X Wedges: SM8 54.12, 60.08 Modus 125 Wedge/60.10 LAGP L Series 120 Wedge Putter: Lajosi DD201 Pro V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PankaGolf 406 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Warmed up and practiced with the new 3 wood tonight. Focused on pausing at the the top to keep the swing steps in step. will need to probably adjust the shaft length as I forgot how long Cobra are from standard. 2 Quote "C'mon be good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchunksalot 16,302 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I haven't been able to get out and hit any balls this week due to work and cooler weather, but that doesn't mean I can't work on my swing at home. I played this past weekend and made a discovery after struggling with my 50+ yard pitch shots that I was becoming disconnected with my trail arm. It was causing me to break out in a rash of the shanks. I made an adjustment the rest of the round and hit a bucket afterward concentrating on staying connected and it made a difference. Thus week, I've been picking up a club in the house focusing on that. Hopefully I can find some time this weekend to get out and work on it some more and maybe see a difference. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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