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Another Tuesday with a 1 hour meeting I only have to listen in on, so got my putting practice in. Again focusing on alignment, but making sure the swing felt loose and free and results were solid. Then got in my speed training for the day. It was great to feel some of the speed coming back as I dove back in on Level 3 for super speed and got some good speed. I am enjoying this increased practice and hope to see some of the results next year on the course.

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I’ve been doing some studying and applying the concepts to my putting.  Started on Saturday and applied some things to my Sunday round.  Overall the results were pretty good and I like what I saw.  I have continued the reading/studying and have tried some of the concepts during carpet putting sessions and the results seem promising.  
The skills I’ve been working on are setup/stroke, green reading, and touch.  While the green reading and setup is somewhat analytical, the touch aspects are very feel based which is kind of the opposite of what I normally do.  

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18 hours ago, Syks7 said:

Well another good session highlighted by my new purchase.  Still working on rotating my chest open.  It's going to take some doing.  I think retraining my timing and release is going to be the toughest part.  I'm in the right position with most of my body, but I'm too early with some of it and a little late with other parts.  Considering that this is all taking place in literal milliseconds I think this is going to take some time to get right.... probably most of 2023 considering adding the little shallowing hitch took me most of 2022.  The one thing that was suggested before that has been immediately beneficial was getting a real hip turn by sliding my trail hip back.  It's had immediate results, so in the mean time while I'm working on the next adjustment I'm in a good place to play reasonable golf.

 

The highlight of the day though was the impulse purchase I made last Monday.  PXG 0211 w/ Tensei Raw Blue 75.  I'm very happy with the choice I made and I think it's going to have very positive results on my game.  I only hit about 20 balls with it today, but from the start I found the head to be forgiving, with good feedback, and a decent if not super hot face.  The shaft was borderline perfect, stable, easy to load, and very consistent in delivering the near center of face to the ball.  (My mediocre driver swing not withstanding.)  It's obviously early, and I did find that the Tensei didn't respond well to overly aggressive transitions and breakdowns in tempo, but I didn't have any crazy spinny misses.  Never sliced one off to space or pull hooked one off the map.  Time will tell but I feel like this is certainly going to help save maybe 1 or two strokes a round for me.  (whether or not I give them away in other parts of my game is another matter).  

Second ever swing with it.

Swings 5-10 after forgetting to press play for 3&4.

 

I would take those shots Syks!!

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9 hours ago, cjeffs12 said:

Thank you, it’s been a lot of work. My back is feeling it today lol

Sorry for the length, but.....

I can relate with the back issues, but something I just deal with pretty successfully given my condition.  The past few times playing, my drives have become more and more of a challenge.  My distance has been ok, but more and more fades, strong fades and a couple slices, but still very high % FIRs.  But the swing just hadn’t felt quite right and I’ve been fighting it. 

Just not transitioning properly during the downswing, and while I feel connected, I think I’m slightly losing it at the start of the downswing.   Also don’t feel I’m keeping my ‘center’ resulting in opening my left side while dipping my right side toward the ball, and laying back some.  (With driver I play the ball off the left heel, and by centered I mean the intersection of a line from the ball drawn back from the target, and a line perpendicular line).

Last Saturday went to the range and tried slowing things down, and concentrate on keeping my center.  Probably hit about 25-30 drives, and felt I was making some progress.  Was pulling quite a few too far left though.  Started reading the thread about shafts and torque, and began considering if that might be contributing.  My driver shaft is a recoil 450 ES F3 with 5.7* torque.  Anyways, I dismissed that notion.

Had another range sessions yesterday, and significant improvement.  Started with a much slower tempo but quickly increased, but still a bit slower than my normal.  Really worked on my backswing rotation while staying very close to centered.   Tried forcing a max rotation.  Interesting that the more I rotated, getting the hands as high as I can, the drives got better and better.  Still got some straight drives with a very subtle fade, which I can live with.  But then made another discovery- I try to hold and feel the lag position thru the downswing...and while focused on that, just totally relaxed my wrists and hands, and by doing so, felt the club at the top kind of collapse to more parallel to ground (I’m sure pics would verify).  Tried keeping that relaxed or neutral hand feel, and was hitting numerous baby draws and what seemed to be greater carry distance, and my finish position was much better.  

In conclusion, really feeling it in my lower back today, but in a way, it’s a ‘good’ hurt!
 

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1 hour ago, GaryF said:

Sorry for the length, but.....

I can relate with the back issues, but something I just deal with pretty successfully given my condition.  The past few times playing, my drives have become more and more of a challenge.  My distance has been ok, but more and more fades, strong fades and a couple slices, but still very high % FIRs.  But the swing just hadn’t felt quite right and I’ve been fighting it. 

Just not transitioning properly during the downswing, and while I feel connected, I think I’m slightly losing it at the start of the downswing.   Also don’t feel I’m keeping my ‘center’ resulting in opening my left side while dipping my right side toward the ball, and laying back some.  (With driver I play the ball off the left heel, and by centered I mean the intersection of a line from the ball drawn back from the target, and a line perpendicular line).

Last Saturday went to the range and tried slowing things down, and concentrate on keeping my center.  Probably hit about 25-30 drives, and felt I was making some progress.  Was pulling quite a few too far left though.  Started reading the thread about shafts and torque, and began considering if that might be contributing.  My driver shaft is a recoil 450 ES F3 with 5.7* torque.  Anyways, I dismissed that notion.

Had another range sessions yesterday, and significant improvement.  Started with a much slower tempo but quickly increased, but still a bit slower than my normal.  Really worked on my backswing rotation while staying very close to centered.   Tried forcing a max rotation.  Interesting that the more I rotated, getting the hands as high as I can, the drives got better and better.  Still got some straight drives with a very subtle fade, which I can live with.  But then made another discovery- I try to hold and feel the lag position thru the downswing...and while focused on that, just totally relaxed my wrists and hands, and by doing so, felt the club at the top kind of collapse to more parallel to ground (I’m sure pics would verify).  Tried keeping that relaxed or neutral hand feel, and was hitting numerous baby draws and what seemed to be greater carry distance, and my finish position was much better.  

In conclusion, really feeling it in my lower back today, but in a way, it’s a ‘good’ hurt!
 

Honestly, this is very much what I was feeling with the before, and the same with my downswing improvements. Right now, I am at the good being high towering straight or just falling to the right. I’m not quite to the draw stage, but I feel in time I will get there, but for the moment I’m still in astonishment of where I’ve gotten to. I’m still feeling that “good” hurt. 

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Not the best day of practice today. Things were a little out of sync and physically I just wasn't all there, especially in the legs. Noticed a few mph of speed lost, and contact was a little off. Kind of worked through it and got to hitting some little baby fades that weren't going my normal distances, but would still manage to get me around the course. I'm continuing to work on driver and I was down to about 30% low hooks with the rest of the shots pretty straight. Like most other clubs, speed and distance were down, but this was a day of mostly working on correcting flaws rather than worrying about the results. Finished up the bucket by ripping the best 3 wood of my life. Hit that one off the deck about 15 yards past any of the shots in my fitting, so that club is definitely coming around. Looking forward to pulling it out on the course this weekend. 

Finished up the practice with about 15 minutes on the putting green. Working on 3 foot, 6 foot, and 10 foot putts mostly. Last few minutes were spent practicing longer putts trying to get a feel for the distance control with the new putter. It is definitely an adjustment to get used to this putter on those longer distances.

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Went to the range to continue working on a drill. It’s the whole basis of this swing change, and it SURE gets aggravating doing it over and over, but it’s the only way I’m ever going to get the change to happen.

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Today was slow quarter speed swings into the net, working on rotating as much as possible on both the backswing and follow through.  

Yeesh!  Really need to up my flexibility!!  Also nearly brained myself with a ball that clanged off the support pole.

Hit the gym again for the first time in a couple months.  Another eye opener.  Hit it hard and going to feel it for a few days!

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1 hour ago, JerryB said:

Today was slow quarter speed swings into the net, working on rotating as much as possible on both the backswing and follow through.  

Yeesh!  Really need to up my flexibility!!  Also nearly brained myself with a ball that clanged off the support pole.

Hit the gym again for the first time in a couple months.  Another eye opener.  Hit it hard and going to feel it for a few days!

😬  Get some pipe insulation!!

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Also, yeah.  Good call.

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Been working on staying extended in the follow through to reduce my hook tendency. 

Coach has me trying to keep my legs longer/straighter at setup focusing more on hinging at the hips with only a slight bend in the knees. 

Yesterday's practice started with a bit of putting. Not drills, just making putts. I scattered six balls around the practice green from 9 to about 25 feet. Did that a couple of times with about a 33% make rate and no three putts so I moved on to chipping and pitching. Again, more making shots that drill work. Chipped to a 20 yard target for a while, with most finishing within 9 feet. Then I hit some random pitch shots working out to about 40 yards. I ended that on a 35 yard hole out. Moved on to full swing after that. Only had about 10 minutes to use before they closed the range. Focus was on the setup key and keeping legs straighter/longer. In the swing, I was focusing on really feeling the pressure of the handle on the middle and ring fingers of my trail hand through the ball. End result was positive. I was seeing a nice 6-8 yard draw with the miss being a mostly straight push using 7 iron. Also got in a few really well struck drivers that had similar flight - high with a bit of draw and a straight push miss. 

Now if that would just follow me to the course next time....

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Spent a good amount of time in the Trackman sim bay with my coach this afternoon. Working on a lot of the same thoughts as the last session.

After two long days of practice, I'm whooped....

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Spent some time working on short chips into the net today, basically keeping the club between the four o'clock and 8 o'clock positions.  I have a tendency to chunk these shots and worked on avoiding it today.

After that I decided to have a little fun and took a couple dozen cuts with this club:

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The feedback can be interesting, to say the least!

On that note, a question.  I hit some seriously chunky shots sometimes and have broken a couple clubs on range mats.  Because of that, I don't hit my gamers too often while practicing at home.  I think I'm overthinking here, but; as a still new and inconsistent striker, will swinging a number of different clubs during net sessions cause me any issues?

 

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I've been hitting into the net the last few days to try to work on a few things in the swing without being able to see results. If I don't see any ball flight, I find it easier to keep working on the feelings instead of getting into the habit of trying to fix the ball flight. As usual, I also found my grip was migrating away from where it should be, making some of the other changes difficult. 

Went to the range after work today and focused on making sure my grip was correct and the feel that I had been working on. Going to keep working on what I was doing today because I hit the ball really well. If it keeps working I'm going to have to have a discussion with my coach to possibly eliminate one of the things he wants me to start incorporating more into my swing. I'm realizing that I have success with more of a stack and tilt type of swing, and he wants me to start by shifting away from the target a bit. When I can time it, it's fine, but it introduces another variable into my swing that requires timing and I don't see any benefit from it so far. So basically, correct grip, don't shift away from target at the start of backswing, and focus on keeping my hands low through impact. Was even hitting the ball well enough to experiment with some intentional shot shaping and had some success. Not ready to bring those to the course yet, but it's nice to see some potential after a pretty miserable round over the weekend. 

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... Reminds me of my wedge fitting. Doing a full bag fitting we ran out of time for wedges and his only opening was the next morning at 8am. Showing up with an extremely stiff back, I proceeded to shank 5 shots in a row. My fitter asked "Are you doing that on purpose to f**k with me?" LOL I wish ... Switched to hitting a few drivers and back to wedges and everything was OK after that. I am sure you already know this but will be fine for your round and looking forward to pics! 

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Got in another round of speed training, and really feel the speeds coming back. As mentioned in the off seasons goals thread hope to hit 116 this off season. I slacked this year and definitely lost some speed so I want to get that back and then some.

Then some putting practice where I noticed, and maybe I have said the before that I tend to set up with the face open. so I took out a speed square I have lying around, aimed it at the target next to the ball as a guide for the face alignment. This worked wonders and from 12 feet I was making many more than I have previously. Did this for a bout 30 putts to get the feel then with the last 10 I removed that to try to keep the feel. It of course feels closed and I feel like I am pulling the putts, but then it would track right where I want to go. Going to take that as the set up for the next month or so to really feel more comfortable with the set up and then continue to check in during the off season practice.

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1 hour ago, ejgaudette said:

Got in another round of speed training, and really feel the speeds coming back. As mentioned in the off seasons goals thread hope to hit 116 this off season. I slacked this year and definitely lost some speed so I want to get that back and then some.

Then some putting practice where I noticed, and maybe I have said the before that I tend to set up with the face open. so I took out a speed square I have lying around, aimed it at the target next to the ball as a guide for the face alignment. This worked wonders and from 12 feet I was making many more than I have previously. Did this for a bout 30 putts to get the feel then with the last 10 I removed that to try to keep the feel. It of course feels closed and I feel like I am pulling the putts, but then it would track right where I want to go. Going to take that as the set up for the next month or so to really feel more comfortable with the set up and then continue to check in during the off season practice.

I know I read this somewhere in the threads... but what are you using for your speed training EJ?

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On 10/11/2022 at 6:18 PM, cjeffs12 said:

Honestly, this is very much what I was feeling with the before, and the same with my downswing improvements. Right now, I am at the good being high towering straight or just falling to the right. I’m not quite to the draw stage, but I feel in time I will get there, but for the moment I’m still in astonishment of where I’ve gotten to. I’m still feeling that “good” hurt. 

Since my last range session, I had to take the better part of a week off and go to FL to help my daughter, and also see my 10yo grandson pitch in his first game.  Came back Sunday, did a quick range session as I played Tues(yesterday).  Continued to stay centered and get get good motion/extension.  Very windy & cloudy and hard to track the ball but felt I was doing fairly well, but noticed 2 things.  

First, my tempo was varying, and it dawned on me that isn’t good.  I had this notion that to gain distance, speeding up the tempo was the answer.  I think pros can do this, but I just get erratic.  I am learning that I have an optimum tempo, and maintaining that tempo, regardless how far I rotate is the right move for me.  Second, I was getting my share of fades and some straight drives, then I realized I wasn’t extending quite enough to get the club parallel to the ground at the peak of my back swing.  So I pushed a little farther, and again, every drive after had a slight draw.  

Fast forward to yesterday - didn’t score very well with 15-18 mph winds plus bigger gusts, but I drove the ball as well as ever.  Also hit a 7w and 5w (3 times ea) for the first time on the course, and they were every bit as good.  Was really balanced, really good rotation back, and good transition and follow through - it jus felt so day and relaxed.  My scoring issues resulted with about 10-11 short approach shots using 2/3 swing with my wedges and the wind played havoc, and my fault for not being able to play through that.  As poorly as I scored (89) i was elated  my driver and woods.  
 

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16 minutes ago, GaryF said:

Since my last range session, I had to take the better part of a week off and go to FL to help my daughter, and also see my 10yo grandson pitch in his first game.  Came back Sunday, did a quick range session as I played Tues(yesterday).  Continued to stay centered and get get good motion/extension.  Very windy & cloudy and hard to track the ball but felt I was doing fairly well, but noticed 2 things.  

First, my tempo was varying, and it dawned on me that isn’t good.  I had this notion that to gain distance, speeding up the tempo was the answer.  I think pros can do this, but I just get erratic.  I am learning that I have an optimum tempo, and maintaining that tempo, regardless how far I rotate is the right move for me.  Second, I was getting my share of fades and some straight drives, then I realized I wasn’t extending quite enough to get the club parallel to the ground at the peak of my back swing.  So I pushed a little farther, and again, every drive after had a slight draw.  

Fast forward to yesterday - didn’t score very well with 15-18 mph winds plus bigger gusts, but I drove the ball as well as ever.  Also hit a 7w and 5w (3 times ea) for the first time on the course, and they were every bit as good.  Was really balanced, really good rotation back, and good transition and follow through - it jus felt so day and relaxed.  My scoring issues resulted with about 10-11 short approach shots using 2/3 swing with my wedges and the wind played havoc, and my fault for not being able to play through that.  As poorly as I scored (89) i was elated  my driver and woods.  
 

How do you like having a 7w? I’ve been so curious about one. 

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