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This was fantastic, thanks for sharing the experience with us. I also think the fact that you both had great experiences helps prove the worth they provided. Well done sir!

 

 

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That's very interesting to hear the difference between the Snell and Pro V. 4 mph with your irons is a lot to be giving up. I would like to think it was just a bad ball, I have tried Snell on course and they travel just as far as my Nike. 


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Driver: :cobra-small: Speedzone 9* Project X Smoke Green 60 6.5

Wood: :cobra-small: Speedzone Big Tour 13.5* Project X Smoke Yellow 70 6.5

Hybrids: :755178188_TourEdge: CB Pro U 17* Mitsubishi Kura Kage Silver 90X

Irons: :cobra-small: King Forged CB/MB 3-PW Modus Tour 120X

Wedges: :cobra-small: MIM 52* and 58* Modus Tour 130 Wedge 

Putter: :seemore-small: Nashville Z1C 34"

 Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X

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It's either bad batch of balls or you just don't compress Snell balls the same as you do other brands. Looking at my numbers from the recent Nike ball testing they're right on par, and I'll say my Titleist numbers are right in line with those.

 

I wouldn't read too much into it, this is precisely why there's different brands of balls for different players.

 

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It's either bad batch of balls or you just don't compress Snell balls the same as you do other brands. Looking at my numbers from the recent Nike ball testing they're right on par, and I'll say my Titleist numbers are right in line with those.

 

I wouldn't read too much into it, this is precisely why there's different brands of balls for different players.

 

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That's what I was thinking too, with the slower ball speeds in the irons you may just not compress it enough.


Driver:   :callaway-small: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5

FW:   :cobra-small: F6 baffler set at 16º

Hybrid:  NONE
Irons:   :taylormade-small:  3i 2014 TP CB  4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400

Wedges:   :nike-small: 52º :nike-small: 56º  :edel-golf-1: 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped

Putter:   :ping-small: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot

 

 

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Great point guys! That's the kind of information everyone in this forum needed to hear. And it drives home the point even further, we have to find the right products for us!

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:titelist-small: TS3 8.75 with HZRDOUS Yellow and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:callaway-small: XR 16 3W & 5W with HZRDOUS Red shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:srixon-small: U65 4i with Fujikura MCI shaft and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:titelist-small: AP3 5-PW with Accra Tour 110i shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:titelist-small: SM7 50F, 54S and 60M grinds with Dynamic Gold 120 Tour Issue S400 and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:bettinardi-1: Queen B #6 with 34" Stability Shaft and P2 Aware Tour Grip.

:titelist-small: Pro-V1 Golf Ball.

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Dormie Custom Headcovers.
Bushnell Pro X2 Laser Rangefinder.

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Also here is the drill I learned. Don't mind my dress for a shirt, it's a little too big for me now. Haha. It's rough, but it demonstrates the point and I tried to exaggerate it so it made sense!

 

https://youtu.be/7-HkkPdU3HE

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:titelist-small: TS3 8.75 with HZRDOUS Yellow and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:callaway-small: XR 16 3W & 5W with HZRDOUS Red shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:srixon-small: U65 4i with Fujikura MCI shaft and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:titelist-small: AP3 5-PW with Accra Tour 110i shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:titelist-small: SM7 50F, 54S and 60M grinds with Dynamic Gold 120 Tour Issue S400 and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:bettinardi-1: Queen B #6 with 34" Stability Shaft and P2 Aware Tour Grip.

:titelist-small: Pro-V1 Golf Ball.

Jones Utility Golf Bag.

Dormie Custom Headcovers.
Bushnell Pro X2 Laser Rangefinder.

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This type of fitting doesn't have a handicap requirement. The first point he made to me when I entered the bay (at it was backed up by the data) is that my swing is extremely consistent. And that's not exclusive to me. We all are consistent. We may be consistently wrong or out of whack in what we present, but as with the C Taper example that's where something that we can never interpret (I love the feel of the shaft, it produced a good looking flight to me, but the design of it caused me to manipulate numbers in a way to hit the ball that was really hindering my performance) and that's something that unless you see people like these guys, they're never going to be able to tell.

 

It just blew my mind. 

 

 

A lot of articles I have read about these types of extensive custom fittings suggest that they benefit mid-high handicappers more so than low-scratch players. Better players have better swings and can usually adapt to poorly fit equipment and get by. Better players have a smaller gap to bridge with their equipment than higher handicappers.

 

Not a ton of pro fitters in Iowa so I will have to search a little more broadly.

 

Also, just to calm the waters. The Snell MTB flat out performs for me. I have not noticed any difference in performance on iron shots between ProV and MTB. I am super inconsistent with my driver (perhaps a fitting issue?  :lol:) so not a lot of great comparisons between them in the long game. I can hit the MTB a long way though. Tons of carry.


Bag: Bennington Quiet Organizer 9-Lite (link)

Cart: Clicgear 3.5+

Driver:   :taylormade-small: R11, Fujikura blur S

Woods:     :mizuno-small:   JPX EZ, Fujikura Six S
DI:  :titelist-small:  T-MB 2 iron, KBS Tour-V 120 X,
Irons: Miura PP-9003SN 4-GW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff
Wedges: Miura 1957 K-grind SW, LW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff
Putter: :odyssey-small: EXO Indianapolis (link)
Ball: :Snell: MTB

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I agree and like I said I really think it was just an individual issue. Not sure what the issue was but it doesn't seem like anything that is a widespread problem or anything like that.

 

It just taught me it's time to revisit the drawing board on what ball I play!


:titelist-small: TS3 8.75 with HZRDOUS Yellow and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:callaway-small: XR 16 3W & 5W with HZRDOUS Red shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:srixon-small: U65 4i with Fujikura MCI shaft and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:titelist-small: AP3 5-PW with Accra Tour 110i shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:titelist-small: SM7 50F, 54S and 60M grinds with Dynamic Gold 120 Tour Issue S400 and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:bettinardi-1: Queen B #6 with 34" Stability Shaft and P2 Aware Tour Grip.

:titelist-small: Pro-V1 Golf Ball.

Jones Utility Golf Bag.

Dormie Custom Headcovers.
Bushnell Pro X2 Laser Rangefinder.

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I am fortunate enough to live within a 45 minute drive to Modern Golf in Mississauga (that's where I assume you went) and I have a co-worker who went for a fitting there in the summer. He said it was absolutely unbelievable. Not cheap though, they generally charge $400 for the fitting alone. But it is definitely a bucket list place for me as well, just have to convince the wife...

 

One of the coolest things Modern Golf does is they have a fitting van (similar to what you see on the PGA tour) and clubs around Southern Ontario can request them to show up for a day and do fittings for their members. Neat idea for those who don't want to make the drive. They also offer an (outdoor only) complete custom wedge fitting for $1000. Would love to see one of those. 


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Driver- PING G400 LST w/ Project X Evenflow Black

Fwy- TM Aeroburner 16.5HL

Irons- Callaway Steelhead XR (3-PW)

Wedges- Callaway MD3 (50,54,58)

Putter- Cleveland TFI Satin Cero

Ball-  Snell MTB-X

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I agree and like I said I really think it was just an individual issue. Not sure what the issue was but it doesn't seem like anything that is a widespread problem or anything like that.

 

It just taught me it's time to revisit the drawing board on what ball I play!

Take a sleeve of MTB and a sleeve of whatever ball you choose and head out onto the course.  Pick a club and hit the six balls.  Measure the distance of each, and repeat 5 times.  Drop out the obvious mishits.  The results might be interesting.


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I agree and like I said I really think it was just an individual issue. Not sure what the issue was but it doesn't seem like anything that is a widespread problem or anything like that.

 

It just taught me it's time to revisit the drawing board on what ball I play!

 

Does that mean we will soon be reading about your 'bucket list' ball fitting?  :D


Bag: Bennington Quiet Organizer 9-Lite (link)

Cart: Clicgear 3.5+

Driver:   :taylormade-small: R11, Fujikura blur S

Woods:     :mizuno-small:   JPX EZ, Fujikura Six S
DI:  :titelist-small:  T-MB 2 iron, KBS Tour-V 120 X,
Irons: Miura PP-9003SN 4-GW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff
Wedges: Miura 1957 K-grind SW, LW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff
Putter: :odyssey-small: EXO Indianapolis (link)
Ball: :Snell: MTB

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I'd be more than happy to chronicle my ball fitting. Not a problem! I plan on working through it basically all winter long with my pro and just make it a part of my lessons. I'm hoping by next season I'll have it narrowed down.

 

And Kenny I would be happy to do that, only problem is I sold my stock of the MTB and I'm not sure if I'd want to purchase another dozen just to have a sleeve to test with... hmm...

 

And newballcoach that's awesome you live so close to them! I'm absolutely jealous of you. Yes I visited the one you're close to, and as I'm sure you can gather from my post it was a totally worthwhile investment.

 

We played Pipers Heath golf club when I visited Toronto and I know they're a course that has the fitting van! It was a really beautiful course!

 

Also I asked about the wedge fitting just out of curiosity and they said they actually don't offer it anymore. The ROI just wasn't there for them and it didn't make sense. You can still have a completely custom wedge milled for you out of a blank though.


:titelist-small: TS3 8.75 with HZRDOUS Yellow and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:callaway-small: XR 16 3W & 5W with HZRDOUS Red shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:srixon-small: U65 4i with Fujikura MCI shaft and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:titelist-small: AP3 5-PW with Accra Tour 110i shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:titelist-small: SM7 50F, 54S and 60M grinds with Dynamic Gold 120 Tour Issue S400 and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:bettinardi-1: Queen B #6 with 34" Stability Shaft and P2 Aware Tour Grip.

:titelist-small: Pro-V1 Golf Ball.

Jones Utility Golf Bag.

Dormie Custom Headcovers.
Bushnell Pro X2 Laser Rangefinder.

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Thanks Shawn, really enjoyed the read. I've been thinking about booking my daughter in at a similar place(though not quite as plush!) here in Aus. I may even sneak myself in for a driver fitting.


:ping-small:  G400 SFT with Aldila Xtorsion Copper Stiff
:cobra-small: F8 3 & 5 Woods with Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0

:mizuno-small: MP18 MMC FliHi 4 Iron - Project X LZ 5.5
:mizuno-small:  MP18 MMC - Project X LZ 5.5
:mizuno-small: S18 Wedges 50,54,58
MLA Tour Mallet 33"
:srixon-small:  Z Star
:ping-small: Pioneer bag
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Sounds great, I've been going to Modern Golf since they first opened. Great having them so close by. Pipers is nice isn't it.

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Did they offer any guarantees with the fittings if for some reason the clubs didn't perform the same in the real world?

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Driver:   :callaway-small: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5

FW:   :cobra-small: F6 baffler set at 16º

Hybrid:  NONE
Irons:   :taylormade-small:  3i 2014 TP CB  4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400

Wedges:   :nike-small: 52º :nike-small: 56º  :edel-golf-1: 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped

Putter:   :ping-small: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot

 

 

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Peaksy if you have something similar it's worth every penny. I totally would suggest a fitting experience to like this for anyone who is interested in improving their game.

 

I played 9 holes last night and shot a 42 with three bad holes (my chipping is a little rusty from having almost two months off...) But the extra distance/forgiveness is really paying off big time in these in only 27 holes played. and Maverick you're one lucky guy. They really are a top notch staff and place to visit and I'm jealous you're right in their back yard!
 

And Theoo that's a great question! They do offer a guarantee! There are complimentary lifetime loft and lie adjustments, and I was told by my fitter that if once I received the product there was any issue with something (shafts, feel, alignment, whatever) that they would find a suitable replacement for me free of charge. They're very good about providing service to the customer.

 

I'm waiting on the 917 head to get here and have been in contact with Justin concerning the PURE'ing/grip alignment on my shaft and he's been great about making sure it's perfect. Once I receive the head and get it setup if I have to change the settings for whatever reason they said I am able to send it back and have the tip reglued/PURE'd and so on free of charge.

 

Also to anyone else reading through this, if you have any questions for me about the process/my takeaways or anything like that please feel free to ask!

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:titelist-small: TS3 8.75 with HZRDOUS Yellow and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:callaway-small: XR 16 3W & 5W with HZRDOUS Red shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:srixon-small: U65 4i with Fujikura MCI shaft and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:titelist-small: AP3 5-PW with Accra Tour 110i shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:titelist-small: SM7 50F, 54S and 60M grinds with Dynamic Gold 120 Tour Issue S400 and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:bettinardi-1: Queen B #6 with 34" Stability Shaft and P2 Aware Tour Grip.

:titelist-small: Pro-V1 Golf Ball.

Jones Utility Golf Bag.

Dormie Custom Headcovers.
Bushnell Pro X2 Laser Rangefinder.

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This sounds like an amazing experience. Hopefully I can do to this one day. Unfortunately, Ohio does not have anything close to this. The graphite shaft comment is interesting though. I have only had graphite shafts, but in older clubs. I currently have Taylormade Racs with graphite but they are probably 12 years old, and I am sure technology has improved with them. I was looking for new clubs to jump to steel, but might consider staying with graphite now.


:taylormade-small: RBZ Stage 2 Driver, RAC Irons, Rosa Putter, 3 Hybrid with Matrix shaft

:cleveland-small:    52 & 56 CG12 Wedges

Ben Hogan 58 wedge

:adams-small: 3, 5, and 9 woods with Aldila shafts

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It truly was an incredible experience, and don't be afraid to look around you in different states. Depending on how far you're willing to travel there are other places out there that provide a similar service!

 

That being said, the graphite conversation was extremely interesting to me and honestly the performance that I gained from having these shafts in the bag is just awesome. I'm seeing the distance gains that I had in the bay on the course and the feel is just outstanding. I truly think that this conversation is going to be like the steel/graphite conversation that was had before the change in drivers and there will be a day in the not too distant future that a major part of the population are playing graphite in their irons. There are just so many possibilities with graphite compared to steel.


:titelist-small: TS3 8.75 with HZRDOUS Yellow and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:callaway-small: XR 16 3W & 5W with HZRDOUS Red shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:srixon-small: U65 4i with Fujikura MCI shaft and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:titelist-small: AP3 5-PW with Accra Tour 110i shafts and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:titelist-small: SM7 50F, 54S and 60M grinds with Dynamic Gold 120 Tour Issue S400 and Black MicroPerf Best Grips.

:bettinardi-1: Queen B #6 with 34" Stability Shaft and P2 Aware Tour Grip.

:titelist-small: Pro-V1 Golf Ball.

Jones Utility Golf Bag.

Dormie Custom Headcovers.
Bushnell Pro X2 Laser Rangefinder.

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Shawn - what an amazing experience. Thanks for the write up. Does anyone know if there is any place close to the experience that Shawn received in the Southeastern US? I would love to do something like this, but can't afford too much travel.


:taylormade-small: R11S 9.5° w/ stock Phenom 60g Shaft Stiff

:cleveland-small: Sport Series OS 15° w/ stock Shaft Regular

:callaway-small: XR Pro 3 hybrid (19°) w/ Project X 6.0 Graphite Shaft

:callaway-small: XR Pro 4 hybrid (22°) w/ Project X 6.0 Graphite Shaft 

:callaway-small: XR Pro 5-AW, KBS Tour 90 Stiff

:callaway-small: Mack Daddy 2 Tour Grind 54° and 58° Wedges

odyssey_zpsaeehke8n.jpg Odyssey Versa 7 34" w/ Superstroke Slim 3.0 Grip

 

 

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Shawn - what an amazing experience. Thanks for the write up. Does anyone know if there is any place close to the experience that Shawn received in the Southeastern US? I would love to do something like this, but can't afford too much travel.

I think True Spec is the US equivalent, not sure about locations though.

http://www.truespecgolf.com

 

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