PlaidJacket Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 And neither are all 8.3"s Kenny B 1 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 And neither are all 8.3"s In this weather I'm a 10! That's my story and I sticking to it. fozcycle 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The ITR guys just told me that as a 10 hcp, it doesn't matter whether I play a PV1 or TopFlite, because I'm a 10!! These guys are don't have a clue. Not all 10's are created equal. I'm sure that the Brass at Titleist and Callaway LOVED to hear that... "It doesn't matter what ball you crappy 10 handicap players play." I read this as play the cheapest thing available... re: Kirkland. Undershooter, cnosil, fozcycle and 1 other 4 Quote Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severtheties Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Breed keeps talking about Quality Control, which is fair, however, I didn't listen to the show, but have seen what he says on twitter. My question is this, did he even mention that the manufacture of the ball has been making balls for a long time. I would think/hope they have solid QC. I have played through a dozen and no issues. Also Costco back their products 100%. I am sure if they were to get a ton of returns due to bad quality they would do something about it. This was discussed. Breed still had his doubts during the show and obviously after. Sort of seems like a witch hunt to find SOMETHING OR ANYTHING wrong with the ball. Obviously it falls into the category of too good to be true BUT there is some test data behind it and obviously first hand accounts to support the claims... fozcycle 1 Quote Driver - Tour Edge Exotics XCG 7 Beta w/ Paderson shaft 44" Fairway Metal - Vapor Fly 15* w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 65F 43" Irons - SLDR 4i-pw w/ KBS Tour C-Taper 90S Wedges - 54* and 58* Digger grind Putter - 2015 GoLo 3 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severtheties Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I'm sure that the Brass at Titleist and Callaway LOVED to hear that... "It doesn't matter what ball you crappy 10 handicap players play." I read this as play the cheapest thing available... re: Kirkland. I laughed when I heard this and thought the same thing. Most, if not all, of these guys are under sponsorships and this seems to be one of their only way to discredit the ball. I'm sure it isn't making their sponsors very happy. Wonder what kind of fall out may happen from this side of things, if any. fozcycle and Kenny B 2 Quote Driver - Tour Edge Exotics XCG 7 Beta w/ Paderson shaft 44" Fairway Metal - Vapor Fly 15* w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 65F 43" Irons - SLDR 4i-pw w/ KBS Tour C-Taper 90S Wedges - 54* and 58* Digger grind Putter - 2015 GoLo 3 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdiehunter17 Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 I am curious if Golf Digest will include them in their Hot List. fozcycle and Kenny B 2 Quote Driver- Callaway 815 Big Bertha Alpha Double Black Diamond 3 Wood- Callaway 815 Big Berth Alpha 3 -5 Hybrids Callaway Apex 6-PW- 2014 Callaway Apex Pro 50,54, 58 Wedges- Callaway MD3 Putter- SeeMore FGP Ball- Kirkland Signature and Snell MTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP The Dansome Posted December 22, 2016 SPY VIP Share Posted December 22, 2016 Listening now... Breed is ranting and attempting to tear down the MGS testing. This guy thinks he's royalty... Undershooter 1 Quote Yo #JustPlayBetter Follow @GolfSpyMBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP The Dansome Posted December 22, 2016 SPY VIP Share Posted December 22, 2016 C'mon Michael.... So is Titliest better than Callaway, Bridgestone or Srixon? Undershooter 1 Quote Yo #JustPlayBetter Follow @GolfSpyMBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP The Dansome Posted December 22, 2016 SPY VIP Share Posted December 22, 2016 OMG Breed gave X rules Quote Yo #JustPlayBetter Follow @GolfSpyMBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I am curious if Golf Digest will include them in their Hot List. There is no hotter ball right now, but I say no. They are being paid be the OEMs. Severtheties and The Dansome 2 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 OMG Breed gave X rules Wait what? Quote Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 OMG Breed gave X rules What are they?! Quote Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP The Dansome Posted December 22, 2016 SPY VIP Share Posted December 22, 2016 What are they?! I'd have to rewind, but paraphrasing - You must be nice. I will speak and give our listeners all the correct information, and then you can have your turn. Quote Yo #JustPlayBetter Follow @GolfSpyMBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severtheties Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 What are they?! Basically just to let each other say their point. Be respectful. He honestly did a good job IMHO. fozcycle 1 Quote Driver - Tour Edge Exotics XCG 7 Beta w/ Paderson shaft 44" Fairway Metal - Vapor Fly 15* w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 65F 43" Irons - SLDR 4i-pw w/ KBS Tour C-Taper 90S Wedges - 54* and 58* Digger grind Putter - 2015 GoLo 3 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I missed Hank Haney's show yesterday, so I just went back and listened to it. Wow! He was singing a completely different tune than he was today with X. Yesterday: "There is no way this ball is 10 yards longer. It's just not feasible" "The [MyGolfSpy test] is the most unscientific test I have ever heard of in my life." "The golf balls are all going about the same distance." Thanks X for setting the record straight. fozcycle and The Dansome 2 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP The Dansome Posted December 22, 2016 SPY VIP Share Posted December 22, 2016 If you listened after X got off Haney said a few more nuggets About the Nicklaus ball - Never heard of this (snicker), where do you even get them? Here Hank http://www.mygolfspy.com/direct-to-consumer-golf-ball-buyers-guide/- we told everyone about them - by Nicklaus designed with Bridgestone and later he says - I'm still have my doubts with this testing fozcycle 1 Quote Yo #JustPlayBetter Follow @GolfSpyMBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I just checked and neither the Haney or Breed shows are in the on demand yet. Is the afternoon show still talking about it? Guess I'll tune in and find out? Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Severtheties Posted December 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2016 So funny little story about Breed continuing to questing the testing. A little quick background about my work before I get into the story. I'm a commercial underwriter for one of the biggest banks in the world. I look at business lending deals all day long which includes a deep dive into all company and personal financials. I then take that data and analyze it vs. industry standards and expectations, blah blah blah. Long story short, we work with numbers all day and do a lot of work with statistics. A guy I work with was asking me what I was listening to this morning on our way to lunch. I told him it was about MGS and told him a little of the backstory behind MGS and what they stands for. I told him how there are two different ways to test basically, robotic and statically using real humans. He immediately jumped in and said "The robot test wouldn't make any sense as long as you did enough (meaning 1000-10000 shots)with a human and threw out the worst shots using an outlier detection system (his exact words...notice how they match X's because he's using a true method) it would give you the true performance. A robot would only give you the top capabilities of a product, not necessarily what works." I was surprised at first because, as I mentioned, this guy doesn't golf at all. I think part of the problem is that these guys (Breed, Haney, etc.) only know what their told, sort of. Now this isn't necessarily their fault as the robot has been the standard for testing for years and as X mentioned during the interviews, there is a place for it. I think what scares them, to some degree, is that this goes against the grain. They're having a hard time grasping the concept of statistics (a lot of people do) because all they can picture in their head is that a human cant consistently make the same swing every time, which is true. But I think that is the exact point of why MGS's test is a better form of data than a robot. It takes into account that very fact. I think it would be very interesting to somehow get someone from that side of things to be apart of the Most Wanted testing or any testing for that matter so they could get up close and personal with the data and truly understand what it is telling us. evershady, The Dansome, MattF and 7 others 10 Quote Driver - Tour Edge Exotics XCG 7 Beta w/ Paderson shaft 44" Fairway Metal - Vapor Fly 15* w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 65F 43" Irons - SLDR 4i-pw w/ KBS Tour C-Taper 90S Wedges - 54* and 58* Digger grind Putter - 2015 GoLo 3 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Great post severetheties! Another thing I wanted to mention/ask, at any time did Haney who I believe is still a Golf Digest contributor, mention the fact that GD uses real humans of all handicaps (not robots) for it's annual Hot List testing? I haven't seen or heard him criticize them for that!! ole gray 1 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severtheties Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Great post severetheties! Another thing I wanted to mention/ask, at any time did Haney who I believe is still a Golf Digest contributor, mention the fact that GD uses real humans of all handicaps (not robots) for it's annual Hot List testing? I haven't seen or heard him criticize them for that!! Of course not! Hank's interview was honestly terrible compared to Breed's. Hank was just pulling things out of his ass it seemed in any attempt to discredit the testing. Mentioning this would help bring credit to MGS. I did see Hank give a shout out to MGS and say he likes their work and while I hope this true, it almost seems it is just an attempt to save face. Quote Driver - Tour Edge Exotics XCG 7 Beta w/ Paderson shaft 44" Fairway Metal - Vapor Fly 15* w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 65F 43" Irons - SLDR 4i-pw w/ KBS Tour C-Taper 90S Wedges - 54* and 58* Digger grind Putter - 2015 GoLo 3 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP The Dansome Posted December 22, 2016 SPY VIP Share Posted December 22, 2016 I just checked and neither the Haney or Breed shows are in the on demand yet. Is the afternoon show still talking about it? Guess I'll tune in and find out? It is - toggle to their shows and find the specific segments Golfspy_CG2 1 Quote Yo #JustPlayBetter Follow @GolfSpyMBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 It is - toggle to their shows and find the specific segments I have the APP and listen on my phone. I'm not sure if the layout is the same, when I pull up the archive list of Haney's shows, the most recent is yesterday's. But I'll check again, incase I'm missing something. Thanks! The Dansome 1 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBones Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Speaking of robots.......that's exactly what these guys are, for the companies they represent. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy SuperDave, 808nation, Justin H and 4 others 7 Quote Follow @GolfspyBones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severtheties Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I have the APP and listen on my phone. I'm not sure if the layout is the same, when I pull up the archive list of Haney's shows, the most recent is yesterday's. But I'll check again, incase I'm missing something. Thanks! Go to the live channel and then scroll down. It should, in white, show you what is next, then what is on currently, and if you keep scrolling you can click either "A new Breed of Golf" or "Hank Haney Golf Radio" and it should take you to todays show for either. The interview on Breeds was just a little more than half way through his show. Hanks was right at the beginning. Golfspy_CG2 and The Dansome 2 Quote Driver - Tour Edge Exotics XCG 7 Beta w/ Paderson shaft 44" Fairway Metal - Vapor Fly 15* w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 65F 43" Irons - SLDR 4i-pw w/ KBS Tour C-Taper 90S Wedges - 54* and 58* Digger grind Putter - 2015 GoLo 3 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdiehunter17 Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 I feel like I should get a prize for starting this thread, lol. Merry Christmas off to hit some Kirklands! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ole gray, PlaidJacket and wbealsd 3 Quote Driver- Callaway 815 Big Bertha Alpha Double Black Diamond 3 Wood- Callaway 815 Big Berth Alpha 3 -5 Hybrids Callaway Apex 6-PW- 2014 Callaway Apex Pro 50,54, 58 Wedges- Callaway MD3 Putter- SeeMore FGP Ball- Kirkland Signature and Snell MTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post McaseyM Posted December 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2016 how about something like this for the store Costco own the Kirkland Signature logo MyGolfSpy owns the MGS logo wbealsd, MattF, The Dansome and 7 others 10 Quote What's in my bag: Driver : F9 10.5, Fujikura Speeder 757 TR Fairway F9 15.5° Aldila Rogue White 80X Hybrid: King F7 18° KBS Tour PROTO Hybrid 95 S+ Irons: z585 4i - 6i, z785 7i-PW, Nippon Modus 120X Wedges: CBX 50.11, 55.11, 60.10 TT DG S400 Black Putter: Honey Badger 34" Ball: Q-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evershady Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I feel like I should get a prize for starting this thread, lol. Merry Christmas off to hit some Kirklands! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Maybe, but maybe you will get all the hate mail for starting this fire. silver & black and Birdiehunter17 2 Quote Chippewa Falls Wisconsin 10.3 Index Right Handed What's in the bag: Driver: FG Tour F5 8* Fujikura Speeder 757 Evolution Tour Spec X-flex, Anser 8*, Black Grafalloy Bi-Matrix X-Flex; King LTD Pro Orange Grafalloy Bi-Matrix X-Flex FW Wood: FG Tour F5 15* Fujikura Speeder 757 Evolution Tour Spec X-Flex Anse14*, Fujikura Speeder 757 US Open Edition , X-Stiff Irons: FG Tour V4 2 utility Iron, 3-PW, +0.25, 2* Upright, True Temper Dynamic Gold X-100 Wedges: FG Tour PMP Gun Blue 52* bent to 51*, 56* True Temper Dynamic Gold X-100 Shafts E2 35", 8802 35.5", Scottsdale, Wolverine C 35" Anser Milled, Anser 2 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdiehunter17 Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 I can deal with it. Lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk evershady 1 Quote Driver- Callaway 815 Big Bertha Alpha Double Black Diamond 3 Wood- Callaway 815 Big Berth Alpha 3 -5 Hybrids Callaway Apex 6-PW- 2014 Callaway Apex Pro 50,54, 58 Wedges- Callaway MD3 Putter- SeeMore FGP Ball- Kirkland Signature and Snell MTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I feel like I should get a prize for starting this thread, lol. Merry Christmas off to hit some Kirklands! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk How about a sleeve of Titleist? silver & black, Birdiehunter17 and wbealsd 3 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdiehunter17 Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 Lol no thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Driver- Callaway 815 Big Bertha Alpha Double Black Diamond 3 Wood- Callaway 815 Big Berth Alpha 3 -5 Hybrids Callaway Apex 6-PW- 2014 Callaway Apex Pro 50,54, 58 Wedges- Callaway MD3 Putter- SeeMore FGP Ball- Kirkland Signature and Snell MTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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