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Watching my Indians struggle tonight isn't fun.But watching batters on both sides and see so many similarities to golf.The steep backswing to a shallow approach into the strike.Pivot leading the show.Very similar info that I was taught a few years back and still do.Anyone study baseball to improve their golf swings?Even the YouTube baseball instructors have some excellent gems that may help us.Infact I learned more from some of their videos than I do most golf instructional videos

 

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Baseball and golf both use an implement to strike a ball. That's about where the similarities end.

You could apply the same theory to tennis, pool, hockey or whatever, but the basic principle of any sport is to practice the discipline in question to be proficient, rather than use the fundamentals of another to draw a conclusion with little or no relevance. Opinions may vary of course.

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Well I played baseball up to my junior year in college when unchecked mono cost me the season. :(

 

Most shots that I hit in golf would be home runs in baseball. Very few hits that I hit in baseball would be worth anything in golf.

 

Seriously there are some similarities in regards to the swing but it's dangerous to go one for one. Fred Couples and Tommy Gainey are examples of golfers with extensive (minor league) baseball experience. Even though Freddie's tempo is beautiful neither has a swing that one would ever teach or copy.

 

Generally speaking the best golfing baseball players are starting pitchers.

 

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My baseball/softball swing was responsible for my humongous slice when I took up golf.  I had to unlearn that swing or I was going to quit the game.

We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.”

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My baseball/softball swing was responsible for my humongous slice when I took up golf. I had to unlearn that swing or I was going to quit the game.

Interesting my swing has always produce a book but when I played pulling the ball was all the rage. I was taught to clear my hips pronto with my baseball swing.

 

I've struggled with being too quick throughout my golfing career.

 

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My baseball/softball swing was responsible for my humongous slice when I took up golf.  I had to unlearn that swing or I was going to quit the game.

Main reason that I play golf right handed is that I hit from the left side playing baseball. 

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Both are games where failure is celebrated and games where missing small is key. 

 

Maybe I love both because I'm a glutton for punishment lol 

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One big difference b/w golf and baseball:

 

Picked up a tip the other day, from an old book by Julius Boros, that was a "light bulb moment" for me...

 

* Keep your trail arm elbow down in the backswing

 

I see a lot of great golfers do this, vs. I see a lot of baseball hitters raise their trail arm elbow.

 

(And in golf that can cause a slice.....)

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Baseball and golf both use an implement to strike a ball.

Did you mean...

"Implement ill-suited to the task"...?

(to paraphrase Sir Winston Churchill)

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One big difference b/w golf and baseball:

 

Picked up a tip the other day, from an old book by Julius Boros, that was a "light bulb moment" for me...

 

* Keep your trail arm elbow down in the backswing

 

I see a lot of great golfers do this, vs. I see a lot of baseball hitters raise their trail arm elbow.

 

(And in golf that can cause a slice.....)

opposite for me.. I have to feel like I'm hitting a low down and out pitch thru the ball.But when I do the result will be the prettiest push draw you have ever witnessed.Kinda like a Lee Trevino feel with body open and upper body low and over it.Wish I could show you how baseball it looks

 

Results will be bam - boom - smile

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One big difference b/w golf and baseball:

 

Picked up a tip the other day, from an old book by Julius Boros, that was a "light bulb moment" for me...

 

* Keep your trail arm elbow down in the backswing

 

I see a lot of great golfers do this, vs. I see a lot of baseball hitters raise their trail arm elbow.

 

(And in golf that can cause a slice.....)

 

That's actually a very common misconception for many people as well. Back elbow down is correct for baseball as well as golf. 

I always hear people telling their kids during a little league game or something to "keep that back elbow up." The reality is that most kids would do better if the back elbow is lower in their stance because there is less wasted movement. 

 

Of course you may see pro hitters have a high back elbow in their batting stance but the second that he pitch starts to come the back elbow drops and as they throw their hands at the ball. 

See this video of Pujols, elbow starts high and drops into place. 

 

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That's actually a very common misconception for many people as well. Back elbow down is correct for baseball as well as golf. 

 

I always hear people telling their kids during a little league game or something to "keep that back elbow up." The reality is that most kids would do better if the back elbow is lower in their stance because there is less wasted movement. 

 

Of course you may see pro hitters have a high back elbow in their batting stance but the second that he pitch starts to come the back elbow drops and as they throw their hands at the ball. 

See this video of Pujols, elbow starts high and drops into place. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye18rV5chnY

nice..I guess I'm different.Love to let that right elbow get high.Feels so so powerful.When I see elbows in front I see an over connected short hitter of the ball.Play with plenty of them.To them this is the term connection.For me their definition and feel means short
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You're right when you say pitchers typically are the best Gail don't baseball players. They know how to properly use the ground to gain power through the lower body.

As a hitter I see TONS of similarities in both golf and baseball swings. Elbow dropping into the proper position on the downswing is synonymous with the beginning of the baseball swing bat needs to meet the ball level or on a slight upwards swing.

I LOVE this topic and love seeing the similarities between the swings. Thanks for posting.

 

 

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nice..I guess I'm different.Love to let that right elbow get high.Feels so so powerful.When I see elbows in front I see an over connected short hitter of the ball.Play with plenty of them.To them this is the term connection.For me their definition and feel means short

Obviously you can keep your hands wherever in your stance. But eventually it will have to drop when you start the swing. Both golf and baseball will have elbow in at impact. Assuming someone isn't flailing at a breaking ball in the dirt or something way outside anyway.

 

I've tried it every which way over the years. Hands high, low, elbow up, or down. When I settled in to "my stance" in college I was somewhere in the middle. Prolly a little high if anything, similar to yourself.

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One big difference b/w golf and baseball:

 

Picked up a tip the other day, from an old book by Julius Boros, that was a "light bulb moment" for me...

 

* Keep your trail arm elbow down in the backswing

 

I see a lot of great golfers do this, vs. I see a lot of baseball hitters raise their trail arm elbow.

 

(And in golf that can cause a slice.....)

That guy played in a US Open in golf and tennis. Do you think he was an athlete? I grew up playing on his home course. I hated him then. I love him now. :)

 

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That guy played in a US Open in golf and tennis. Do you think he was an athlete? I grew up playing on his home course. I hated him then. I love him now. :)

 

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Small world man. Buddy of mine who still plays pro baseball has gotten into golf and has been blowing me up recently.

The dude has the makings of a MAJOR club ho. Haha

 

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Look an athlete is an athlete. If I'm a baseball player and I am there will always be a trace of it in my swing. I would not advocate it for a golf swing. It leads to issues in the golf swing and with the back.

 

I'm in full agreement with undershooter. Both sports are impossibly difficult. Both sports are great.

 

 

 

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