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FW Wood: :tour-edge: Tour Edge EXS 220 - 15*; :mizuno-small: ST 180 14*
Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
Utility Irons: :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model Utilities 18, 21, 24*;  Lynx VT Stinger - 16*
Irons::wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged; :benhogan-small:PTx Pro, :macgregor-small: VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; :wilson_staff_small: Progressives (circa 1993)

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX -2, :benhogan-small:Riviera 52-56-60; :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model
Putter:   :edel-golf-1:  Willamette,  :bettinardi-small: BB8,  :benhogan-small:Baby Ben

Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X (2020); :srixon-small: Z-STAR XV

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Here is my most recent example: Just yesterday....   I played a 9-hole charity scramble. In addition to the golf one of the fund raising methods was buying squares on a board for a chance to win a s

Thought while shaving this morning...what is "affordable?"   When various products, particularly apparel, have been discussed here that issue of price is always a hot button.  What do you consider "

Don't think this quote applies to golf equipment and apparel - but definitely to shoes.  It's something to consider in other parts of life...     “It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse t

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Certainly relative to income, but here's my quick answer - Something is affordable if I can buy it and it doesn't change how my family lives that day, week, or month. So, let's say you have a $500 driver and you want the super, limited, fancier edition that's $700. If that extra $200 really doesn't change whether or not you can pay your mortgage, bills, etc, the for me, it's "affordable"

 

That said, let's not confuse affordable with "value" - Value is entirely individual and that's where I think this conversation ultimately rests. Value is where we, as consumers, get to decide if the product is "worth" the price.

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Affordable is always gonna be a subjective term relative to income. For me it's a lot less then others till college is over and done with. Having said that I don't have a problem spending premium price on gear of higher quality but I have to be convinced I'm getting what I pay for. PXG is still up in the air for me though lol.

 

 

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Affordable to me simply means, can YOU afford it? For some guys a new $400 driver every year is affordable. That is not the case with me. I am a shopper. I don't ever pay full retail for anything. Its a matter of what I am comfortable spending on a certain item, whether it be clothes, clubs , cars or whatever. For me the acid test is , am I happy with the purchase and do I have any buyers remorse. I think everyone agrees that paying less rather than more always feels better but what works for me may not work for you. We are conditioned as consumers to believe more expensive is always better and in many cases that is true. Retailers put a number on things and there are always some who can afford things at any price and are willing to pay. they can afford it. Many of us can't afford to pay those prices and are not willing to pay them. That's why there are SALES,  SO, I think affordable is a sliding scale and is truly a personal thing based on each persons situation. I do not think affordable means cheap or of poor quality. Its just an interpretation of a number. 

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Thought while shaving this morning...what is "affordable?"

 

When various products, particularly apparel, have been discussed here that issue of price is always a hot button. What do you consider "affordable?" Does "affordable" mean "cheap?" Does it mean "discounted?" Does it mean than anything that carries a premium price tag - be it a club, a bag, a shirt or a belt - is a ripoff?

 

Over the years my own views have shifted - I'm a bargain hunter of the highest order but as I've gotten older I've come to appreciate things that last. 10 years ago I would have never purchased, say, a pair of Kentwool socks for $20 when you can buy a 10-pack of socks at Marshall's for $15. I mean, they're freaking socks, right? Nowadays, however, I've come to value style, comfort and quality a bit more and have bought several pair of Kentwood's at full price. Of course, I'll jump all over the Socktober bargain sales, but I've bought several pair at full price - event their compression socks at $40 a pop (I'm a trainer in my day job and spend a lot of time on my feet teaching classes and flying, so there's value to me).

 

I recently bought some Tommy John underwear - as a devoted listener to Mike and Mike, I've heard their commercials and finally checked out the website and bought some. Expensive? Yep. Did I use a coupon code? Yep. Did I still pay more for 3 pair of TJ's compared to the bargain rack pack at Marshall's? Yep. Do I like them? Yep! Would I do it again? Yep...

 

Price is a hot button in any industry - and it's easy to say things are overpriced or too expensive. My question is how do you choose what's worth it to you and what isn't?

 

I'm interested in how you make your own buying decisions and, frankly, comments along the line of "anyone who buys stuff at that price is an idiot" are kinda useless and don't really help.

For me "affordable" has always meant the highest quality that I can afford, within whatever my given budget is at the time.

 

I'll go along with the underwear analogy. I haven't tried Tommy Johns, and have no plans to, since I found a pair of SAXX at TJ Maxx a few months ago. I got a pair for $8.99 as opposed to the regular $29.99. These things are amazing! They have this pouch...anyway, Google if your curious, point is, I would never thought I would spend $30 on underwear, but I loved them so much that amount suddenly became affordable to me. I still check TJ Maxx every chance I get, but I won't hesitate to order a pair every now and then for full price.

 

As far as clubs go, I love the used rack at PGA Superstore. I don't remember the last time I bought a new club that wasn't a Scor wedge. I just picked up a SLDR with a Diamana Kali shaft in it for $100. Considering the price of that shaft, I'd consider that affordable.

 

Forgive my rambling...point is, affordable for me will always be what fits best in my budget at the highest quality possibly at a given time.

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3 Wood: Callaway X Tour 15*

Hybrid: Bobby Jones 21* (Original)

Irons: Bridgestone J38 DPC 4-PW

Wedges: Scor 4161 52*, 57*

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Had to really think about this one for apparel.

 

I will say as my income and job responsibility have increased over the years so has the ceiling for what i pay for clothes.

 

I first learned this about shoes, there is probably nothing worst you can go cheap on than shoes. After wearing typical bargain dress shoes for many years. When I got my first real management job, i splurged on a pair of Allen Edmonds. I couldn't believe shoes could feel like that right out of the box. So that is something I have never skimped on sine, all the way down to sandals and golf shoes (not golf sandals though...LOL)

 

Matter of fact I have two pairs of golf shoes, that I came by as a courtsey of the rep this year, and I hate to say I'm not wearing either one, due to them not being comfortable.

 

Shirts are another area where I don't mind spending money. While I get great industry discounts on golf polos and pull overs, for my dress shirts, I will pay the upper tier.

 

socks and underwear may be the last remaining areas, where I haven't really always shopped the top of the line. But I will say Tommy John has me intriqued as well, just need to pull the trigger.

My uncle is a very frugal man that has acquired his fair share of wealth over the years. He skimps on a lot of things but his common refrain is, "There are two things in life you never skimp on: your shoes and your mattress."

Driver: Taylormade SLDR, Diamana Kai'li 70 

3 Wood: Callaway X Tour 15*

Hybrid: Bobby Jones 21* (Original)

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Friend and I were just discussing this the other day....

Almost all of my golf shirts, are Grand Slam from Kohls, they are comfortable, cool in the summer and look pretty nice. They feel pretty close to the same as the big name brands, and I get them around $20/ea....sure, I would love a closet full of UA's, but I can't see spending that much on a shirt, when I don't think there is a noticeable difference in quality.

Again, I agree with the Judge. The Grand Slam polos are nice and inexpensive. I've also went to Gordmans. They have some nice ones as low as $10. I also like the PGA brand of clothing. Than can be around $25. And all these have lasted over 2 seasons now.

 

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Don't think this quote applies to golf equipment and apparel - but definitely to shoes.  It's something to consider in other parts of life...

 

 

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“It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When
you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay
too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you
bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The
common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a
lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well
to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will
have enough to pay for something better.”
― John Ruskin
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What's in the bag:
 
Driver:  Sub 70 639D - 9.5; :cleveland-small: Launcher HB Turbo; :mizuno-small: ST 190 
FW Wood: :tour-edge: Tour Edge EXS 220 - 15*; :mizuno-small: ST 180 14*
Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
Utility Irons: :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model Utilities 18, 21, 24*;  Lynx VT Stinger - 16*
Irons::wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged; :benhogan-small:PTx Pro, :macgregor-small: VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; :wilson_staff_small: Progressives (circa 1993)

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX -2, :benhogan-small:Riviera 52-56-60; :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model
Putter:   :edel-golf-1:  Willamette,  :bettinardi-small: BB8,  :benhogan-small:Baby Ben

Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X (2020); :srixon-small: Z-STAR XV

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My Pro Shop statred selling their Logo Shirts made by "Bermuda Sands"  They were $25 and very comfortable.  Also, they were "affordable"  Then, about 6 months ago, they put up a rack of shirts with Logos from all over the country.  They are only $15!  They are the same shirt as our Pebble Creek logo shirt, just $10 cheaper.  So now, everybody is sporting the Bermuda Sands shirts with weird logos....kinda cool and very affordable. However, if you go to the Bermuda Sands website their shirts sell for $70....WTF?

 

If you need shirts, come to our Pro Shop.....

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My Pro Shop statred selling their Logo Shirts made by "Bermuda Sands"  They were $25 and very comfortable.  Also, they were "affordable"  Then, about 6 months ago, they put up a rack of shirts with Logos from all over the country.  They are only $15!  They are the same shirt as our Pebble Creek logo shirt, just $10 cheaper.  So now, everybody is sporting the Bermuda Sands shirts with weird logos....kinda cool and very affordable. However, if you go to the Bermuda Sands website their shirts sell for $70....WTF?

 

If you need shirts, come to our Pro Shop.....

My home course sells the same Bermuda Sands shirts. I always wanted one, but I wouldn't cough up the $45.00 asking price. Last month they were 

"on sale" for $29.00. Still too much for me to spend on a shirt with a golf course logo on it. This month they are marked down to $20.00. I bought one. Very nice shirt.... 

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Here is my most recent example: Just yesterday....

 

I played a 9-hole charity scramble. In addition to the golf one of the fund raising methods was buying squares on a board for a chance to win a soft-side zipper ice chest cooler-bag by Yeti. This thing retails for $350! I have a bag ice-chest that I occasionally take places. Works fine and will keep drinks etc. cold most of the day with 1 small bag of ice in it. Cost $14.

 

I talked to a few guys yesterday about the $350 Yeti vs. my $14 el Cheapo model. They argued that the Yeti will keep your beer ice cold without even melting the ice for well over a day. Maybe 2! My argument was all I have to do is add more ice at $1.89/bag. Counting the $14 for my cheapo cooler bag I'd also have to buy another 178 bags of ice to equal the cost of one Yeti cooler. I'll stick with my el Cheapo. Which I use 3-4 times a year.

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Glad to see there a lot of like minded people in here about what is affordable. When I worked I used to pay up for a good shirt and It never failed, the first hot dog I ate would deposit mustard on my beer gut. Of course by the time I got home the stain would have set and it used to really pi** me off. I lost the beer gut and with it my taste for expensive shirts. I am much happier now. Golf clubs, same thing...I finally realized it wasn't the tools , it was the mechanic.I may be a slow learner and dumb....but I'm not stupid :D  (some may argue that point.) :P  

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Anything that I don't get in trouble for buying is affordable.

 

Like most others comments, affordability comes down to an individuals own choice.

 

I like a bargain, and look out for well reviewed gear that is on special or at runout prices. I always buy the best quality shoes that I can afford, they're the one item I'm extremely picky about. My current shoes are ECCO Bioms, that are crazily comfortable and supportive, but I got them at a great price.

 

I won't pay full price, or even close for clubs I haven't tried. I'm willing to take a punt if the price is low enough.

 

My last purchase was 3 Adams Tight Lies 2 hybrids that were potentially for my daughter. It looks like they won't suit her, but one may sneak into my bag, another 1 or 2 into my "holiday" set. Even if I only keep 1 I'm probably breaking even.

:ping-small:  G400 SFT Aldila Xtorsion Copper Stiff
:cobra-small: F8 3 & 5 Woods Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0

:titelist-small: TS2 7 Wood Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0
:mizuno-small:  MP18 MMC - Project X LZ 5.5
:cleveland-small: Zipcore Wedges 50,54,58 - Project X LZ 5.5
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I'm always looking for bargains.  Some things I can always count on:

 

Izod shirts and pants - Great quality, low prices.  If you have an outlet near you, check it out.  I especially love the pants; they look good enough to wear to work (wife approved).

 

C9 (Target) golf shorts - Really well made.

 

Foot Joy Contour Casuals (previous year) - Keep an eye out for clearance sales, they seem to clear out prior year models each winter/spring.

 

Balls - The convenience store at the corner sells recycled balls.  Srixon Z-Stars for about $10; Pro V1s for $19.

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Driver - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
4 Wood (17*) - :callaway-logo-1: Big Bertha S2H2 - RCH 90 "Firm"
7 Wood  - :callaway-logo-1: Big Bertha Warbird S2H2 - RCH 90 "Firm"
5i - PW - :wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S )
GW - LW - :cobra-small: F8 - N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour105 ( S )
Putter - :ping-small: Craz-e
Bag - :1590477705_SunMountain: 2.5 (Black)
Ball -  :taylormade-small: TP5X Pix
Instagram - @hardcorelooper
Twitter - @meovino
Facebook - mike.eovino

What's in timeout:
3 Wood (16*) - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
4i - :wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S )

 

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Here is my most recent example: Just yesterday....

 

I played a 9-hole charity scramble. In addition to the golf one of the fund raising methods was buying squares on a board for a chance to win a soft-side zipper ice chest cooler-bag by Yeti. This thing retails for $350! I have a bag ice-chest that I occasionally take places. Works fine and will keep drinks etc. cold most of the day with 1 small bag of ice in it. Cost $14.

 

I talked to a few guys yesterday about the $350 Yeti vs. my $14 el Cheapo model. They argued that the Yeti will keep your beer ice cold without even melting the ice for well over a day. Maybe 2! My argument was all I have to do is add more ice at $1.89/bag. Counting the $14 for my cheapo cooler bag I'd also have to buy another 178 bags of ice to equal the cost of one Yeti cooler. I'll stick with my el Cheapo. Which I use 3-4 times a year.

Beer in ice chest doesn't last a day, let alone two!!

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Beer in ice chest doesn't last a day, let alone two!!

 

 

Most people really don't need the ice chest to stay cold for over 24 hours....besides, the beer won't last that long!....LOL

Driver: Tour Edge Exotics EXS w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft BACKUP DRIVER: Cobra F8 w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft  Fairways:  Cobra King F8 3W(14.5*) & 5W(18.5*) w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft Hybrids: Tour Edge CBX 119 4H(22*)  with Project X Evenflo regular shaft Irons: Wilson Staff D7 5 - PW w/Recoil 460 regular shafts Wedges: Wilson D7 GW(50*) & SW(54*) w/Recoil 460 regular shafts; Cleveland RTX Zipcore(58*) w/True Temper Spinner Wedge steel shaft  Putter: 33" Slotline SSi 693 mid mallet Bag: Cobra Ultralite Cart Bag(Peacoat Blue).

 

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Thought while shaving this morning...what is "affordable?"

 

When various products, particularly apparel, have been discussed here that issue of price is always a hot button. What do you consider "affordable?" Does "affordable" mean "cheap?" Does it mean "discounted?" Does it mean than anything that carries a premium price tag - be it a club, a bag, a shirt or a belt - is a ripoff?

 

Over the years my own views have shifted - I'm a bargain hunter of the highest order but as I've gotten older I've come to appreciate things that last. 10 years ago I would have never purchased, say, a pair of Kentwool socks for $20 when you can buy a 10-pack of socks at Marshall's for $15. I mean, they're freaking socks, right? Nowadays, however, I've come to value style, comfort and quality a bit more and have bought several pair of Kentwood's at full price. Of course, I'll jump all over the Socktober bargain sales, but I've bought several pair at full price - event their compression socks at $40 a pop (I'm a trainer in my day job and spend a lot of time on my feet teaching classes and flying, so there's value to me).

 

I recently bought some Tommy John underwear - as a devoted listener to Mike and Mike, I've heard their commercials and finally checked out the website and bought some. Expensive? Yep. Did I use a coupon code? Yep. Did I still pay more for 3 pair of TJ's compared to the bargain rack pack at Marshall's? Yep. Do I like them? Yep! Would I do it again? Yep...

 

Price is a hot button in any industry - and it's easy to say things are overpriced or too expensive. My question is how do you choose what's worth it to you and what isn't?

 

I'm interested in how you make your own buying decisions and, frankly, comments along the line of "anyone who buys stuff at that price is an idiot" are kinda useless and don't really help.

So I've been playing the game for almost four years now and when I decided that golf was going to be my hobby, pops said to never buy brand new clubs, and don't get anything name brand until you can shoot under 90.

 

I never bought anything brand new but I did buy a full Taylormade r7 set as my first set. Fast forward to September of this year and I was fitted at my club by my pro, with brand new everything. I saved 3k over the course of a year to be able to get fit on my birthday and I did. Full TM woods and Srixon irons and Cleveland wedges and a shiny new TM putter all fit to me. It's probably the most I'll ever spend at one time on my equipment but I do feel that it's vital to get what you're fit for. (Side note) I picked everything out, I wasn't "sold" on anything...Club pro is a srixon and TM staffer so I got cost plus 10% on everything, little over $1800 for a full bag.

 

Now the clothes? I buy under armour in lot sales on eBay, and wear PGA tour pants off amazon.

 

 

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Srixon 565 Irons 4-6. KBS C-Taper 130x 1 deg upright ,standard loft

Srixon 765 Irons 7-PW KBS C-Taper 130x 1 deg upright, standard loft

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So I've been playing the game for almost four years now and when I decided that golf was going to be my hobby, pops said to never buy brand new clubs, and don't get anything name brand until you can shoot under 90.

 

I never bought anything brand new but I did buy a full Taylormade r7 set as my first set. Fast forward to September of this year and I was fitted at my club by my pro, with brand new everything. I saved 3k over the course of a year to be able to get fit on my birthday and I did. Full TM woods and Srixon irons and Cleveland wedges and a shiny new TM putter all fit to me. It's probably the most I'll ever spend at one time on my equipment but I do feel that it's vital to get what you're fit for. (Side note) I picked everything out, I wasn't "sold" on anything...Club pro is a srixon and TM staffer so I got cost plus 10% on everything, little over $1800 for a full bag.

 

Now the clothes? I buy under armour in lot sales on eBay, and wear PGA tour pants off amazon.

 

 

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Driver: Tour Edge Exotics EXS w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft BACKUP DRIVER: Cobra F8 w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft  Fairways:  Cobra King F8 3W(14.5*) & 5W(18.5*) w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft Hybrids: Tour Edge CBX 119 4H(22*)  with Project X Evenflo regular shaft Irons: Wilson Staff D7 5 - PW w/Recoil 460 regular shafts Wedges: Wilson D7 GW(50*) & SW(54*) w/Recoil 460 regular shafts; Cleveland RTX Zipcore(58*) w/True Temper Spinner Wedge steel shaft  Putter: 33" Slotline SSi 693 mid mallet Bag: Cobra Ultralite Cart Bag(Peacoat Blue).

 

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