GolfSurfSki Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 So, I got to hit this two days ago. I am not in the business, just happened to stop by my course to hit some balls and a Callaway rep was out there with my HP and Assistant and they were hitting this. They know I am a junkie, so I got to take a few swings with both the Regular Epic and the Epic SubZero. They both had stock Stiff shafts in them (Hazardous in the Epic and the New Rogue shaft in the SZ). I hit it against my Cobra King Ltd Driver with a shaft that I have been fitted for. I think my current driver is the longest and most accurate driver I have ever had. I wasn't trying this driver because I was at all in the market for a new driver. A few thoughts. First, I think the crown is ugly! I don't like the green accents and the bumps (like the Ping turbulators) are painted grey/white as well as the raised chevron, so they stand out. I do like how the paint transitions in to a carbon fiber look (this carbon fiber is a upgraded type compared to the carbon fiber that is closer to the face, according to the rep) as it moves to the trailing end of the driver head. I was told, that for an extra $100 you could customize the design and make it what you want, which if I was to get the driver, I would absolutely do. The two heads look pretty much identical. I didn't notice any difference between the two, but I wasn't sitting and studying every detail. Just at first glance, they have the same paint scheme and same basic shape. Both are 460 cc heads. The shafts are apparently real deal shafts, also via the rep. Not made for shafts. On the bottom towards the face there are two silver dots and right by them it says "Jailbreak Technology". These are two titanium rods that extend from the crown to the bottom. They are saying that they stabilize the face and produce more speed, by transferring more of the energy to the face. The rep used the analogy of a trampoline built on PVC pipes (most drivers) vs a trampoline built on titanium base (the Epic) which would transfer more energy to the crown. The rep said that they are seeing an average of 3 mph more ball speed.i am looking forward to seeing real world tests to see if this is true. How were the results. Both are really LONG and very forgiving. Both beat my fitted driver, in distance and accuracy, using the stock stiff shafts that were in them. I didn't have any fancy trackman or anything, just based on where it ended up vs where I was trying to hit it. Mishits were minimally effected (my miss is usually a over cooked fade/slice. I am a moderately long hitter (110 mph SS). I can tell you that I hit both around 10 yards further than my current driver. My driving range uses 85% flight balls and it was flying the Epic around 5-10 yards longer than my driver and the Epic SZ appeared to be more than 10 yards longer. It was tough to tell how much longer because my range ends and it was hitting over the hill, but my regular driver lands before the hill. Everyone was actually laughing, because it was a bit absurd. Sound and feel were both good. I am usually a stickler for sound. I hate the sound of many modern drivers, and this one didn't have anything to complain about. The feel is very solid. Where many drivers feel springy, this one just feels very solid and not springy at all. I also hit the 13.5* 3W. It also had the same solid feel as the driver. It has two weights in the bottom, a heavy and light one. You can move them to adjust spin and ball flight. I could hardly get the ball off the ground with the heavy one in the front, but hit the ball pretty darn well with it in the back. 13.5* is definitely too low for me in a 3W, but I think the 15* could be very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 So the Epic sub-Zero is supposed to compete with the Cobra King LTD? Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 So, I got to hit this two days ago. I am not in the business, just happened to stop by my course to hit some balls and a Callaway rep was out there with my HP and Assistant and they were hitting this. They know I am a junkie, so I got to take a few swings with both the Regular Epic and the Epic SubZero. They both had stock Stiff shafts in them (Hazardous in the Epic and the New Rogue shaft in the SZ). I hit it against my Cobra King Ltd Driver with a shaft that I have been fitted for. I think my current driver is the longest and most accurate driver I have ever had. I wasn't trying this driver because I was at all in the market for a new driver. A few thoughts. First, I think the crown is ugly! I don't like the green accents and the bumps (like the Ping turbulators) are painted grey/white as well as the raised chevron, so they stand out. I do like how the paint transitions in to a carbon fiber look (this carbon fiber is a upgraded type compared to the carbon fiber that is closer to the face, according to the rep) as it moves to the trailing end of the driver head. I was told, that for an extra $100 you could customize the design and make it what you want, which if I was to get the driver, I would absolutely do. The two heads look pretty much identical. I didn't notice any difference between the two, but I wasn't sitting and studying every detail. Just at first glance, they have the same paint scheme and same basic shape. Both are 460 cc heads. The shafts are apparently real deal shafts, also via the rep. Not made for shafts. On the bottom towards the face there are two silver dots and right by them it says "Jailbreak Technology". These are two titanium rods that extend from the crown to the bottom. They are saying that they stabilize the face and produce more speed, by transferring more of the energy to the face. The rep used the analogy of a trampoline built on PVC pipes (most drivers) vs a trampoline built on titanium base (the Epic) which would transfer more energy to the crown. The rep said that they are seeing an average of 3 mph more ball speed.i am looking forward to seeing real world tests to see if this is true. How were the results. Both are really LONG and very forgiving. Both beat my fitted driver, in distance and accuracy, using the stock stiff shafts that were in them. I didn't have any fancy trackman or anything, just based on where it ended up vs where I was trying to hit it. Mishits were minimally effected (my miss is usually a over cooked fade/slice. I am a moderately long hitter (110 mph SS). I can tell you that I hit both around 10 yards further than my current driver. My driving range uses 85% flight balls and it was flying the Epic around 5-10 yards longer than my driver and the Epic SZ appeared to be more than 10 yards longer. It was tough to tell how much longer because my range ends and it was hitting over the hill, but my regular driver lands before the hill. Everyone was actually laughing, because it was a bit absurd. Sound and feel were both good. I am usually a stickler for sound. I hate the sound of many modern drivers, and this one didn't have anything to complain about. The feel is very solid. Where many drivers feel springy, this one just feels very solid and not springy at all. I also hit the 13.5* 3W. It also had the same solid feel as the driver. It has two weights in the bottom, a heavy and light one. You can move them to adjust spin and ball flight. I could hardly get the ball off the ground with the heavy one in the front, but hit the ball pretty darn well with it in the back. 13.5* is definitely too low for me in a 3W, but I think the 15* could be very good. Excellent write up -- thanks for sharing. Can you describe the sound a little more? I"m gaming the Nike Flex 440 and it's head is mostly carbon fiber. It has a unique sound and feel -- more of a muffled smack than a metallic clink, and it feels almost like a forged iron. Does the carbon fiber in the Cally have a similar affect? What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSurfSki Posted November 11, 2016 Author Share Posted November 11, 2016 Yes, the Sub Zero stands for the location of the CG being below the neutral axis. Whether it really is or not, I am sure the great people on this website will figure that out. All I know is it is LONG and FORGIVING. Not the usual squirliness I often get with low spin drivers (I don't have much of that with the Cobra, which is part of the reason I like it so much). As for the sound, it is not a muted sound, but it is not reverberating. It is so hard to describe sounds, mostly I was impressed by how solid the sound was. I don't know if that makes any sense. It does not echo at all. It is a solid metallic thwack sound. Haha. I hate the sound of the new Titleist 917 drivers, and it is nothing like that. It is more metallic sounding than my Cobra, which is just a thwack sound. So add a bit more solid metallic sound to the Cobra and maybe that is what you get. I am sure this sounds like gibberish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Golf Guy Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Great thoughts here. I'd love to see a comparison between this and the M1/M2, since both are composite heads. One thing that doesn't sit well with me is that Callaway's marketing was mocking TM's use of composite last year, yet now is hyping their driver of the same material as the end all be all. I'm not sure it's enough to keep me away, but is an interesting observation and admission by them that composite has potential. I'll be more interested to see how TM improves upon their use of the material, if they do at all. WIT Sta Dry Bag: Driver: '17 M2 Woods: M2 3W and 5W Hybrids: Apex 3h and 5h Irons: MP 18 MMC Wedges: MD PM Grind, 56* and 60* Putter: California Sonoma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGary6 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Great thoughts here. I'd love to see a comparison between this and the M1/M2, since both are composite heads. One thing that doesn't sit well with me is that Callaway's marketing was mocking TM's use of composite last year, yet now is hyping their driver of the same material as the end all be all. I'm not sure it's enough to keep me away, but is an interesting observation and admission by them that composite has potential. I'll be more interested to see how TM improves upon their use of the material, if they do at all. Callaway has been using composite in their drivers since 2010. Maybe they were welcoming TM to the multi-material table rather than mocking them? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Callaway Rouge ST Max Driver, Tensei AV Blue 55 S Callaway Rouge ST Max 3 Fairway, Tensei AV Blue 65 S Callaway Rouge ST Max 3 Hybrid, Tensei AV Blue 75 S PXG 0311 XP G3 Irons 5-GW, True Temper Elevate Tour S PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy Wedge 54º, 60º, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 PXG Blackjack Putter Titleist Pro V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGary6 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 So, I got to hit this two days ago. I am not in the business, just happened to stop by my course to hit some balls and a Callaway rep was out there with my HP and Assistant and they were hitting this. They know I am a junkie, so I got to take a few swings with both the Regular Epic and the Epic SubZero. They both had stock Stiff shafts in them (Hazardous in the Epic and the New Rogue shaft in the SZ). I hit it against my Cobra King Ltd Driver with a shaft that I have been fitted for. I think my current driver is the longest and most accurate driver I have ever had. I wasn't trying this driver because I was at all in the market for a new driver. A few thoughts. First, I think the crown is ugly! I don't like the green accents and the bumps (like the Ping turbulators) are painted grey/white as well as the raised chevron, so they stand out. I do like how the paint transitions in to a carbon fiber look (this carbon fiber is a upgraded type compared to the carbon fiber that is closer to the face, according to the rep) as it moves to the trailing end of the driver head. I was told, that for an extra $100 you could customize the design and make it what you want, which if I was to get the driver, I would absolutely do. The two heads look pretty much identical. I didn't notice any difference between the two, but I wasn't sitting and studying every detail. Just at first glance, they have the same paint scheme and same basic shape. Both are 460 cc heads. The shafts are apparently real deal shafts, also via the rep. Not made for shafts. On the bottom towards the face there are two silver dots and right by them it says "Jailbreak Technology". These are two titanium rods that extend from the crown to the bottom. They are saying that they stabilize the face and produce more speed, by transferring more of the energy to the face. The rep used the analogy of a trampoline built on PVC pipes (most drivers) vs a trampoline built on titanium base (the Epic) which would transfer more energy to the crown. The rep said that they are seeing an average of 3 mph more ball speed.i am looking forward to seeing real world tests to see if this is true. How were the results. Both are really LONG and very forgiving. Both beat my fitted driver, in distance and accuracy, using the stock stiff shafts that were in them. I didn't have any fancy trackman or anything, just based on where it ended up vs where I was trying to hit it. Mishits were minimally effected (my miss is usually a over cooked fade/slice. I am a moderately long hitter (110 mph SS). I can tell you that I hit both around 10 yards further than my current driver. My driving range uses 85% flight balls and it was flying the Epic around 5-10 yards longer than my driver and the Epic SZ appeared to be more than 10 yards longer. It was tough to tell how much longer because my range ends and it was hitting over the hill, but my regular driver lands before the hill. Everyone was actually laughing, because it was a bit absurd. Sound and feel were both good. I am usually a stickler for sound. I hate the sound of many modern drivers, and this one didn't have anything to complain about. The feel is very solid. Where many drivers feel springy, this one just feels very solid and not springy at all. I also hit the 13.5* 3W. It also had the same solid feel as the driver. It has two weights in the bottom, a heavy and light one. You can move them to adjust spin and ball flight. I could hardly get the ball off the ground with the heavy one in the front, but hit the ball pretty darn well with it in the back. 13.5* is definitely too low for me in a 3W, but I think the 15* could be very good. Any word on the GBB Epic having the 44.5 inch shafts as an option at retail? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Callaway Rouge ST Max Driver, Tensei AV Blue 55 S Callaway Rouge ST Max 3 Fairway, Tensei AV Blue 65 S Callaway Rouge ST Max 3 Hybrid, Tensei AV Blue 75 S PXG 0311 XP G3 Irons 5-GW, True Temper Elevate Tour S PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy Wedge 54º, 60º, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 PXG Blackjack Putter Titleist Pro V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Golf Guy Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Callaway has been using composite in their drivers since 2010. Maybe they were welcoming TM to the multi-material table rather than mocking them? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I'll try to find the tweets, but it was definitely mocking. Something about how a composite head was such a throwback. And then TM responded and it was a whole exchange. Either way, I'll be taking a look at it. Any club I hit better than what I have is welcome in my bag, regardless of marketing gaffes and the like. WIT Sta Dry Bag: Driver: '17 M2 Woods: M2 3W and 5W Hybrids: Apex 3h and 5h Irons: MP 18 MMC Wedges: MD PM Grind, 56* and 60* Putter: California Sonoma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0808 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I've seen rumors that the SZ version may be north of $1000 in a limited run. I would love to know if that is correct In my bag: Driver: Rogue ST Triple Diamond LS 10.5* (set to 9.5) UST Lin-Q Gunmetal 6f5 Wood: Tsi2 15* Project X RDX Black 70 6.5 Hybrids: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX Irons: Cobra King Tour MIM 4-PW Dynamic Gold 120 X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 3 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400 Putter: Nashville Z1C 34" Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhartmann34 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Sounds awesome. Can't wait to see it for myself. Great review. Driver: G400 (8*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Fairway: G400 (14.5*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Irons: Crossover 3 iron (19*) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shaft AP3 (4/5) and AP2 (6-PW) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Wedges: Scor 50*, 54*, and 58* with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Putter: Pro Platinum Newport 2 Midslant Handicap: 3 Location: Illinois...until i can get my wife to move to a warmer climate Right Handed: Although sometimes I wonder if left handed would suit me better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSurfSki Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 I've seen rumors that the SZ version may be north of $1000 in a limited run. I would love to know if that is correctI would be very shocked if this was the case. The rep said that they are expecting to have 40% of the market share with these driver and that won't happen with a $1000 driver. Plus, I doubt a rep is going around to pro shops to convince them to carry $1000 driver. I would expect the two drivers to run the same price. As for the length. I didn't ask, however, I play a 44.5" driver and now that I think about it I didn't really notice a difference in length (i.e. the Callaway didn't seem long). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Longer and more forgiving is always good! I can't wait to try one. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckymeyer Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I'll try to find the tweets, but it was definitely mocking. Something about how a composite head was such a throwback. And then TM responded and it was a whole exchange. Either way, I'll be taking a look at it. Any club I hit better than what I have is welcome in my bag, regardless of marketing gaffes and the like. If I remember correctly that was all in response to TMaG implying they were the first multi material driver with composite in use and Cally saying they did it way back when. Basically Cally was first, but TMaG did it better kind of thing Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Tmag never claimed they did it first,but their marketing focused on the tech. Callaway then tried to make a funny by inferring that it wasn't new tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I haven't bagged a Callaway driver in quite some time however now you have me interested. Especially if it is available in a 44.5 option. Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSurfSki Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 I've seen rumors that the SZ version may be north of $1000 in a limited run. I would love to know if that is correct I checked with my pro shop and they said that the drivers will be $499 for both the Epic and the Epic SZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Hog Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I haven't had a Callaway driver in my bag for a few years. Beyond the last GBB iteration nothing has excited me about their line up. I'd love to compare the Epic driver (horrible name BTW) to my current gamer (M2) to see if there is a significant performance difference. If there is then I'm in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I can't wait ti try this driver out! I was considering the TM M1/M2 or the new Titleist 917 D2 to replace the TM R15 that I was custom fit for, only because I hit the M1 and it seemed like I was getting quite a few more yards (can't confirm this since I didn't have the R15 with me at the time to do so) and I've heard a lot of great things about the 917. If it can go up against the R15 and give me several more yards and still have the ball hitting the fairways, them I'm sold! TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSurfSki Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 I can't wait ti try this driver out! I was considering the TM M1/M2 or the new Titleist 917 D2 to replace the TM R15 that I was custom fit for, only because I hit the M1 and it seemed like I was getting quite a few more yards (can't confirm this since I didn't have the R15 with me at the time to do so) and I've heard a lot of great things about the 917. If it can go up against the R15 and give me several more yards and still have the ball hitting the fairways, them I'm sold! I have hit the 917D2 and while it is a fairway finder, so is the Epic and it was significantly longer for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I have hit the 917D2 and while it is a fairway finder, so is the Epic and it was significantly longer for me. Wow, I just bought a D3 that I gained about 20 yards over my XR16 with though a custom fitting. If the Epic is longer than the 917 than I may have 2 new drivers on my hand....LOL G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSurfSki Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Wow, I just bought a D3 that I gained about 20 yards over my XR16 with though a custom fitting. If the Epic is longer than the 917 than I may have 2 new drivers on my hand....LOL The times I have hit the 917 it was with the stock shaft in it, and it couldn't out perform my King LTD. However, the Epic with the stock shaft did. Your custom fit 917 may be a different story. I am looking forward to seeing what others think once they get the chance to hit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I have hit the 917D2 and while it is a fairway finder, so is the Epic and it was significantly longer for me. GolfSurfSki: Thanks. I'll definitely put it on my short list to test out. Interested to see it in person. MDGolfHacker TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Any word on of the fairway metals also have the same rods inside? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSurfSki Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 I hit the 13.5 and while it had the same solid feel of the driver, I do not remember seeing any dots on the bottom like on the driver. I may have missed it though. The 3 metal was really good and very solid. It has two interchangable weights (front and back) so you can adjust your launch conditions accordingly. My Assisant pro was back from vacation and I asked him how he liked the driver. His comment was that it was an absolute beast and that he was on staff with the wrong company. I was glad to hear his thoughts on it, as I didn't even think to ask him when I hit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 The times I have hit the 917 it was with the stock shaft in it, and it couldn't out perform my King LTD. However, the Epic with the stock shaft did. Your custom fit 917 may be a different story. I am looking forward to seeing what others think once they get the chance to hit it. The right shaft can make all the difference in the world! Getting the right shaft that fits your swing can optimize the launch angle and maximize your swing speed while keeping you in the short grass. Glad the Epic stock shaft worked for you! MDGolfHacker TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSurfSki Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 The right shaft can make all the difference in the world! Getting the right shaft that fits your swing can optimize the launch angle and maximize your swing speed while keeping you in the short grass. Glad the Epic stock shaft worked for you! MDGolfHacker Totally agree! My point was to just compare stock to stock. However, I am playing a Cobra King Ltd driver that I was fit for and both the Epic drivers with stock shafts beat my fitted Cobra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulliganman Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Do we know where the center of gravity is located on the standard EPIC model and its MOI? I've seen claims the SZ may be in the 5,000 MOI area with the weight back. Wondering when we might seem some MGS numbers on these. I've been seeing quite a few reports of increased ball speed with these two clubs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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