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8 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

let's assume a center cut tee shot.

how far is it to the landing area to clear the corner, and then what is the distance on the approach shot?

I think you are the one guy that would be fine on this hole as long as you don't hit the ball crooked off the tee.

Besides the over the house shot (right of the trees on the right side of the picture), the perfect shot is a fade about 250, which leaves you about 165, then you are in good shape. The problem becomes if you hit it 250 but not on the line you intend, your angles to the green get dicey. 

Why I think you would be ok is that you could hit an iron off the tee down the middle about 220 and then have about a 200 yard approach shot which is a short iron for you. For guys that can be hitting 200 plus yard approach shots with short to mid irons accurately, then its not as difficult of a hole. 

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32 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

Has anyone played a par 4 hole regularly that you have a very low probability of reaching in 2?

Normally, most would say if you can't reach it in 2, then you are playing tees that are too long. But its just one single hole at my home course. Plays 415 from the blues or whites, they play from the same location usually. Its a pretty strong dogleg right. Hit anything on the left side and you either have a really long 2nd shot from the rough, or if you are a big hitter, you just hit the ball into the road. Hit the ball down the middle of the fairway and you still have a long second shot, or if you are a big hitter, you are through the fairway into the trees. If you can play a fade, that is optimal, but a slight miss right (just off the fairway) and you have no angle for your second shot into the green unless you can hit a big fade on command with your irons. Slice it off the tee and you have hit a house. 

In all the times i have played, i have only seen a few times where someone has actually successfully landed on the green in 2. The one guy i remember, he is close to scratch and is a big hitter. He aims directly toward the houses on the right side, and hits a high ball that flies over the houses, over the trees and lands in the fairway. He is essentially taking the direct line towards the hole. But any low mishit is breaking windows on that line. 

Hole 3 at blue mash is almost as long as a par 5. A normal drive for most people means long club into the green that’s protected a little. A really goo drive it’s mid iron in. Not impossible but hard. I’m usually on the front edge or off to the right 

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13 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

I think you are the one guy that would be fine on this hole as long as you don't hit the ball crooked off the tee.

Besides the over the house shot (right of the trees on the right side of the picture), the perfect shot is a fade about 250, which leaves you about 165, then you are in good shape. The problem becomes if you hit it 250 but not on the line you intend, your angles to the green get dicey. 

Why I think you would be ok is that you could hit an iron off the tee down the middle about 220 and then have about a 200 yard approach shot which is a short iron for you. For guys that can be hitting 200 plus yard approach shots with short to mid irons accurately, then its not as difficult of a hole. 

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so 220 clears the corner, and leaves 200 in to the green? and 250 that follows the shape of the hole is the ideal shot?

definitely sounds like a tough hole.

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21 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

so 220 clears the corner, and leaves 200 in to the green? and 250 that follows the shape of the hole is the ideal shot?

definitely sounds like a tough hole.

If you can hit it to that black dot (about 220 out), you have about 200 left to the hole. If hit on that line towards the black dot but too far, you are generally ok, but could get a sidehill lie in the rough. 

What the tricky part if you want to hit the fade is that if you are slightly off the fairway to the right, then you can get into a situation where you don't have a great angle to the hole. And then 15 yards right of the righthand edge of the fairway gets you into the houses. 

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14 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

If you can hit it to that black dot (about 220 out), you have about 200 left to the hole. If hit on that line towards the black dot but too far, you are generally ok, but could get a sidehill lie in the rough. 

What the tricky part if you want to hit the fade is that if you are slightly off the fairway to the right, then you can get into a situation where you don't have a great angle to the hole. And then 15 yards right of the righthand edge of the fairway gets you into the houses. 

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Hit it further off the and it’s a mid to short iron in depending on hole location.  It if 220 is all somebody has then like you mentioned in the initial post the person is probably playing the wrong tees for the course 

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1 hour ago, dlow206 said:

Why I think you would be ok is that you could hit an iron off the tee down the middle about 220 and then have about a 200 yard approach shot which is a short iron for you. For guys that can be hitting 200 plus yard approach shots with short to mid irons accurately, then its not as difficult of a hole. 

 

220 then 200 is a long iron/hybrid into the green.  It is long but not impossible.  What is the course and hole number so,I can look on google earth.  

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5 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Hit it further off the and it’s a mid to short iron in depending on hole location.  It if 220 is all somebody has then like you mentioned in the initial post the person is probably playing the wrong tees for the course 

If you hit it further than 220 towards that black dot that i put on the picture, then you are in the rough, and the rough is not as nice as it looks in that picture. 

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@cnosil - here is the google view

 

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2 hours ago, dlow206 said:

I think you are the one guy that would be fine on this hole as long as you don't hit the ball crooked off the tee.

Besides the over the house shot (right of the trees on the right side of the picture), the perfect shot is a fade about 250, which leaves you about 165, then you are in good shape. The problem becomes if you hit it 250 but not on the line you intend, your angles to the green get dicey. 

Why I think you would be ok is that you could hit an iron off the tee down the middle about 220 and then have about a 200 yard approach shot which is a short iron for you. For guys that can be hitting 200 plus yard approach shots with short to mid irons accurately, then its not as difficult of a hole. 

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1 hour ago, dlow206 said:

@cnosil - here is the google view

 

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Definitely a touch hole.   I think your 220ish strategy off the tee into the circle I drew below is the right play.  Leaves about 200 into the hole.   About all you have if you say long it dead.  

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@dlow206 @cnosil @RickyBobby_PR 

there seems to be some room right of that black dot before you get to the trees. 

what about a cut with a 230 club starting at that dot? could cut down the approach by 10-30 yards depending where the pin is. 

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9 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

@dlow206 @cnosil @RickyBobby_PR 

there seems to be some room right of that black dot before you get to the trees. 

what about a cut with a 230 club starting at that dot? could cut down the approach by 10-30 yards depending where the pin is. 

if you naturally hit a cut then that works.   There is a decent amount of room before the curve in the fairway so tee shot isn't impossible it just leaves a long shot.  Be happy with par but avoid worse than bogey.  

 

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17 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

@dlow206 @cnosil @RickyBobby_PR 

there seems to be some room right of that black dot before you get to the trees. 

what about a cut with a 230 club starting at that dot? could cut down the approach by 10-30 yards depending where the pin is. 

 

1 minute ago, cnosil said:

if you naturally hit a cut then that works.   There is a decent amount of room before the curve in the fairway so tee shot isn't impossible it just leaves a long shot.  Be happy with par but avoid worse than bogey.  

 

230 or even a bit longer club will work if you can hit a cut on command that starts on the black line. But if the cut turns into a slice, then you might be ok, just depends on how far right it ends up. the worse though is if you try to hit the cut and double cross it on this hole. 

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Just now, dlow206 said:

 

230 or even a bit longer club will work if you can hit a cut on command that starts on the black line. But if the cut turns into a slice, then you might be ok, just depends on how far right it ends up. the worse though is if you try to hit the cut and double cross it on this hole. 

Play your normal ball flight.  Sometimes you are going to hit a bad shot;  just don't compound it will a bad second shot.  

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41 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Play your normal ball flight.  Sometimes you are going to hit a bad shot;  just don't compound it will a bad second shot.  

I definitely just play my normal flight. I just aim towards the black circle and sometimes the ball flight is straight, sometimes it fades a bit naturally. Once in a while i will hit a pull on this hole (not on purpose), and it usually ends up in the fairway, but just makes the hole long. 

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2 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

I definitely just play my normal flight. I just aim towards the black circle and sometimes the ball flight is straight, sometimes it fades a bit naturally. Once in a while i will hit a pull on this hole (not on purpose), and it usually ends up in the fairway, but just makes the hole long. 

That is all you can do. 

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1 hour ago, Chip Strokes said:

@dlow206 @cnosil @RickyBobby_PR 

there seems to be some room right of that black dot before you get to the trees. 

what about a cut with a 230 club starting at that dot? could cut down the approach by 10-30 yards depending where the pin is. 

That’s what I was looking at too. Those who hit a fade should be fine. Looks like those with a high draw can be aggressive and take at the right corner 

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5 hours ago, dlow206 said:

I think you are the one guy that would be fine on this hole as long as you don't hit the ball crooked off the tee.

Besides the over the house shot (right of the trees on the right side of the picture), the perfect shot is a fade about 250, which leaves you about 165, then you are in good shape. The problem becomes if you hit it 250 but not on the line you intend, your angles to the green get dicey. 

Why I think you would be ok is that you could hit an iron off the tee down the middle about 220 and then have about a 200 yard approach shot which is a short iron for you. For guys that can be hitting 200 plus yard approach shots with short to mid irons accurately, then its not as difficult of a hole. 

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