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Will only outsell the SLDR-C if the Triton comes with a Miyazaki shaft rather than that garbage Rogue

 

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it may have been asked and answered.  But does anyone know if Gavin got to keep at least one Pivot driver for himself.  I understand Wilson owns the IP for all the finalists.  But it would be pretty sad if he didn't get to keep one for his own use, in my mind. 


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Blog on the Triton has been published....

 

http://www.mygolfspy.com/first-look-wilson-staff-triton-driver/

 

Gotta say a few things...

 

Been reading on social media and other places that people are thinking this is butt ugly -- really???  It's more angular than a classic driver, that's for sure. Does the stripe bother anyone? After a couple of swings it was barely noticeable. I'm still not sure if it actually does anything to help hit the sweet spot -- will need some more work with it to really find out, but I'm not sure I'd call it ugly.  It's a driver, for Pete's sake!

 

Soundwise, it's definitely a weird sound -- very much like the Wilson FG Tour F5.  I think the weirdness gets interpreted as loud, but it's really just different.  I was in a PGATSS where about 6 or 7 people were hitting it and, while the sound was different, it wasn't cringe-worthy -- nowhere near the sound of the old Nike Square Sasquatch or the Cleveland HiBore. Those suckers made people stop on the range and look for a drive by...

 

Performance wise - it's designed not to slice. Very closed face that you can actually adjust be to more closed if need be.  Very easy to draw and it's definitely low spin and low launch. I hit it with the default setup -- 8 gram carbon fiber sole plate with weights set up for high launch, and I was in the 14.5* launch angle range -- and I struggle with hitting the ball too high at times.  Penetrating indeed!

 

Spin numbers were stupid low -- sub 2000 average. Pat Scott, the Wilson Regional Rep, suggested lofting up to 10 degrees to see what would happen, but I was pretty happy with distance. More carry than my Nike gamer, and about 9 yards more overall on average - and that's with no optimized setup.  I'm hoping to go through a full fitting sometime soon to make sure the shaft and weight setup is right.  

 

Bottom line, based on early results I'd game it. Few others I'd like to try as well, but this one is definitely in the conversation.

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FW Wood: :tour-edge: Tour Edge EXS 220 - 15*; :mizuno-small: ST 180 14*
Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
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Not sure what to make of this thing, All I've seen are pictures but I'm inclined to not be interested. I don't like a closed face for one thing and that alignment aid on the crown seems a little much. I personally don't need any alignment aid. I align and square the face visually. Also, too complicated to adjust. But who knows. I wish Wilson the best.

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Blog on the Triton has been published....

 

http://www.mygolfspy.com/first-look-wilson-staff-triton-driver/

 

Gotta say a few things...

 

Been reading on social media and other places that people are thinking this is butt ugly -- really??? It's more angular than a classic driver, that's for sure. Does the stripe bother anyone? After a couple of swings it was barely noticeable. I'm still not sure if it actually does anything to help hit the sweet spot -- will need some more work with it to really find out, but I'm not sure I'd call it ugly. It's a driver, for Pete's sake!

 

Soundwise, it's definitely a weird sound -- very much like the Wilson FG Tour F5. I think the weirdness gets interpreted as loud, but it's really just different. I was in a PGATSS where about 6 or 7 people were hitting it and, while the sound was different, it wasn't cringe-worthy -- nowhere near the sound of the old Nike Square Sasquatch or the Cleveland HiBore. Those suckers made people stop on the range and look for a drive by...

 

Performance wise - it's designed not to slice. Very closed face that you can actually adjust be to more closed if need be. Very easy to draw and it's definitely low spin and low launch. I hit it with the default setup -- 8 gram carbon fiber sole plate with weights set up for high launch, and I was in the 14.5* launch angle range -- and I struggle with hitting the ball too high at times. Penetrating indeed!

 

Spin numbers were stupid low -- sub 2000 average. Pat Scott, the Wilson Regional Rep, suggested lofting up to 10 degrees to see what would happen, but I was pretty happy with distance. More carry than my Nike gamer, and about 9 yards more overall on average - and that's with no optimized setup. I'm hoping to go through a full fitting sometime soon to make sure the shaft and weight setup is right.

 

Bottom line, based on early results I'd game it. Few others I'd like to try as well, but this one is definitely in the conversation.

John

 

Can you review it side by side with the SLDR-C? Then we can get a real benchmark for performance. In all seriousness - give or take the looks it seems to have people talking about Staff again

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 In all seriousness - give or take the looks it seems to have people talking about Staff again

 

In the big picture, I think that was the whole point of both the show and the driver - it's part of a larger branding initiative and I believe has an entirely different set of metrics for Wilson to determine its success.  It's not as simple as outselling Cally or TM, or being a success on Tour. As stated in the blog, the real story will be read in 12 to 24 months -- has Wilson experienced a noticeable and sustainable spike in sales beyond what they've been experiencing over the past several years. It's about more than just driver sales - there's been more Wilson Staff talk in the past week than the past 5 years put together.

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Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
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The New irons look fantastic - I hope they have a great 2017

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I just added some initial thoughts and pictures about the Triton.  So far it's impressed (surprised) me more than I expected it to.

 

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I hit it today and she is definitely low spin and launch. I didn't even get my hands on the x shaft or the carbon fiber sole plate either. The sound was iffy but who gives a crap. Overall it was decent except I was hitting a lot of low hooks with it.

Anyone who has fade and spin problems should check this thing out. Wilson has something here. Gonna tinker with it next week when my buddy is at the shop.


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Fairway Metal- Tour Edge Exotics XCG7 Beta 3W 13* w/ Matrix 7m4 X 42.5"

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I hit it last night. Grey stripe not distracting at all. Sound was like a old aluminum bat at a batting cage. Not off putting, but just weird. Overall a solid driver.

 

 

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I did just a little testing myself last night. It does set up very closed, but I was still able to hit is straight or right if I wanted to. The sound is a little off putting, but nothing crazy. We didn't have a lot of shaft options, but I did notice something on the track man. The head seemed to measure a little faster club head speed, but the smash factor was low. I asked a couple of the guys at work and they said they've noticed clubs with weights have a tendency to do that. I didn't mess around with sole plates or anything, but I plan on taking about an hour or so to dial this in when I get a chance!

 

 

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I was able to get it out on the course yesterday for a full test.  I drew quite a lot of attention from a lot of guys on the range once they saw the headcover.  Everyone was familiar with the show and wanted to give it a try.  The sound is much better with the hotmelt and really doesn't sound any different than the Ping G drivers.

Performance on the course was fantastic!  The results I saw while being fit were exactly what I got on the course.  It definitely flies lower but this caused a TON of roll out which gave me quite an overall distance boost.  Conditions here in TN are pretty dry so the ground was hard and running.  

I hit a couple out of the heel and was extremely surprised how far the miss hits went.  I was also amazed at how straight they were.  You can tell the spin is very low given how straight each shot was.  I'm sure a lot of this has to do with the Aldila Rogue 125 shaft.

Towards the end of the round I was starting to hit some more fades due to fatigue and/or the layers of clothes I had to wear.  I actually found it harder to turn over and it may be because the Rogue shaft plays very stout.  I was also playing the 6 gram weight in the toe with (2) 2 gram weights in the back and heel.  Contrary to what everyone has been saying the face is NOT closed and sits square.  I can see it appearing that way given the stripe on the top but the actual face angle is perfectly square.  The lie angle is also considerably flatter than most drivers on the market which is refreshing.    If you change the shaft adapter to the "draw" settings it sets the lie angle more upright and looks like a more modern lie angle you would see on current drivers.

Given the late round fades I'm going to adjust the 6 gram weight into the heel and turn the hosel adapter to the draw setting to make it more upright.  I think this will help me turn it over more given the stoutness of the Aldila Shaft.  In the warmer months I may switch it back since I can swing faster and more freely since I won't have winter jackets on.

Overall this club is cool.  It's different looking but the performance is fantastic and has performed every bit, if not better, than anything else out there I've tried.  With the amount of adjustability it offers there really shouldn't be many people on the planet that it can't be fit to. 

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I was able to get it out on the course yesterday for a full test.  I drew quite a lot of attention from a lot of guys on the range once they saw the headcover.  Everyone was familiar with the show and wanted to give it a try.  The sound is much better with the hotmelt and really doesn't sound any different than the Ping G drivers.Performance on the course was fantastic!  The results I saw while being fit were exactly what I got on the course.  It definitely flies lower but this caused a TON of roll out which gave me quite an overall distance boost.  Conditions here in TN are pretty dry so the ground was hard and running.  I hit a couple out of the heel and was extremely surprised how far the miss hits went.  I was also amazed at how straight they were.  You can tell the spin is very low given how straight each shot was.  I'm sure a lot of this has to do with the Aldila Rogue 125 shaft.Towards the end of the round I was starting to hit some more fades due to fatigue and/or the layers of clothes I had to wear.  I actually found it harder to turn over and it may be because the Rogue shaft plays very stout.  I was also playing the 6 gram weight in the toe with (2) 2 gram weights in the back and heel.  Contrary to what everyone has been saying the face is NOT closed and sits square.  I can see it appearing that way given the stripe on the top but the actual face angle is perfectly square.  The lie angle is also considerably flatter than most drivers on the market which is refreshing.    If you change the shaft adapter to the "draw" settings it sets the lie angle more upright and looks like a more modern lie angle you would see on current drivers.Given the late round fades I'm going to adjust the 6 gram weight into the heel and turn the hosel adapter to the draw setting to make it more upright.  I think this will help me turn it over more given the stoutness of the Aldila Shaft.  In the warmer months I may switch it back since I can swing faster and more freely since I won't have winter jackets on.Overall this club is cool.  It's different looking but the performance is fantastic and has performed every bit, if not better, than anything else out there I've tried.  With the amount of adjustability it offers there really shouldn't be many people on the planet that it can't be fit to. 

I agree with everything you said except for the face angle. Its definitely a degree closed. I hovered the driver off the ground to help square it up but even then it wants to set up closed.

I think this is gonna be a really good driver for most golfers if they bother to get fit for it.


Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ Diamana Ahina 80X 44"
Fairway Metal- Tour Edge Exotics XCG7 Beta 3W 13* w/ Matrix 7m4 X 42.5"

Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions)

Irons- Mizuno MP-18 FLI HI 3i and 4i w/ KBS C-taper lite X
          Mizuno MP59 5i and 6I w/ PX 6.5

          Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5

Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set.  50*, 56* bent to 55* w/ rifle spinner shafts

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Interesting. I wonder if there are some manufacturing tolerances that can be the difference?


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Interesting. I wonder if there are some manufacturing tolerances that can be the difference?

I saw that suggested somewhere else so I'm sure its possible. I'd love to get my hands on a square head or even one with 1* open face. Chances of that happening are slim though. Being off 1* is well within manufacturing standards I would venture to guess. 


Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ Diamana Ahina 80X 44"
Fairway Metal- Tour Edge Exotics XCG7 Beta 3W 13* w/ Matrix 7m4 X 42.5"

Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions)

Irons- Mizuno MP-18 FLI HI 3i and 4i w/ KBS C-taper lite X
          Mizuno MP59 5i and 6I w/ PX 6.5

          Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5

Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set.  50*, 56* bent to 55* w/ rifle spinner shafts

                and Titleist Vokey 60* M grind

Putter- Never Compromise Dinero Mogul
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Bag- Ogio Aquatech Cart Bag

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