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Tried it last year.  Didnt improve so stopped using it.  
And then, saw an auto renew for $199 - when I called, they said it is a membership and that I had to pay and cannot cancel since it is a subsrciption. 
Shady practice if you ask me.   
 
 
Cannot cancel??!!?? No, that's bad... Did you call your credit card company and tell them you tried to dispute the charge with the merchant?

Anyway good feedback for others to know, thx.
(..and why I avoid *any* auto-renew program..........)
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I haven't. But I've seen McCord on the GC hawking it. And you're right... he'll sell anything. I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade (umbrella unfurls) but golf instruction such as this are a dime

The ads are weird indeed, but that is the least of their problems.   That dude and his fake-student actor/models look like they're constipated or something. Being in the video production biz, I find

Restarting an old thread as I just started the program, on day 4 of 60.  10 handicap golfer who started a few years ago in late 30's.  Played all sports growing up but never golf until 4 years ago.  N

9 minutes ago, hammer74 said:

Tried it last year.  Didnt improve so stopped using it.  

And then, saw an auto renew for $199 - when I called, they said it is a membership and that I had to pay and cannot cancel since it is a subsrciption. 

Shady practice if you ask me.   

 

 

Did you sign a contact?? Even if so, that is a terrible business practice. 

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Tried it last year.  Didnt improve so stopped using it.  
And then, saw an auto renew for $199 - when I called, they said it is a membership and that I had to pay and cannot cancel since it is a subsrciption. 
Shady practice if you ask me.   
 
 

That would have been a quick call to my credit card co to let them know it was an unauthorized purchase.


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I really don't know anything about it, but I did see an interview with Tahata, Jack Nicklaus & Tom Watson. Jack really went out of his way to say that he really liked the way they taught golf and that they were one of the few methods that get it right. Take that for what its worth.

 

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6 hours ago, hammer74 said:

Tried it last year.  Didnt improve so stopped using it.  

And then, saw an auto renew for $199 - when I called, they said it is a membership and that I had to pay and cannot cancel since it is a subsrciption. 

Shady practice if you ask me.   

 

 

thanks for the heads up

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6 hours ago, hammer74 said:

Tried it last year.  Didnt improve so stopped using it.  

And then, saw an auto renew for $199 - when I called, they said it is a membership and that I had to pay and cannot cancel since it is a subsrciption. 

Shady practice if you ask me.   

 

 

This ^^ this is why I avoid all online programs- online memberships etc. Doesn’t matter if it’s golf or soap box racing.I just don’t feel like getting stuck in these predicaments.Do yourself a favor and Go see a local golf pro or join a fitness club.

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I really don't know anything about it, but I did see an interview with Tahata, Jack Nicklaus & Tom Watson. Jack really went out of his way to say that he really liked the way they taught golf and that they were one of the few methods that get it right. Take that for what its worth.
 
That's interesting.... You wouldn't think either of those two guys are that hard up for endorsement money, so.... maybe Nicklaus' comment is legit..??

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..Tour Edge Exotics EXS 3W/HL (17*) and EXS 7W (both Tensei CK Blue)
..Callaway Super Hybrid 23 (PX Catalyst) and Big Bertha 19 5H (Recoil ZTR)
..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) 
..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite)
..Evnroll ER5 (33", 385g, P2 Reflex Tour)
..all in a Datrek bag on a Bag Boy Quad XL push an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart.

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My instructor used this as his teaching basis. He throws in other things, but it's been extremely helpful for me. It took a little bit to figure out, but it's really a great system for me. That being said, I don't subscribe to the online version.

Word of advice, if you have that charge, you should dispute it with your bank/card company.

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My instructor used this as his teaching basis. He throws in other things, but it's been extremely helpful for me. It took a little bit to figure out, but it's really a great system for me. That being said, I don't subscribe to the online version.

Word of advice, if you have that charge, you should dispute it with your bank/card company.

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Curious... Is there any certain aspect that sticks out to you, as particularly relevant or useful or practical?
..eg. that "one thing" that resonates with you? Thx

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..Tour Edge Exotics EXS 3W/HL (17*) and EXS 7W (both Tensei CK Blue)
..Callaway Super Hybrid 23 (PX Catalyst) and Big Bertha 19 5H (Recoil ZTR)
..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) 
..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite)
..Evnroll ER5 (33", 385g, P2 Reflex Tour)
..all in a Datrek bag on a Bag Boy Quad XL push an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart.

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I'm probably one of the few people who has actually managed to complete this programme. The concept is actually rather worthwhile - he wants to teach you the body movements and mechanics of the swing without actually touching a club or hitting a ball for a very long time.

The drawback is endless repetitions of the most simple movements and the relentless hyperbole and artificially pumped up enthusiasm with which every lesson is presented, no doubt genuinely meant. If Trump was a golf instructor this is how I would imagine it....at the end of each lesson there's a test you have to pass which a child of 10 could do. I got the impression that the programme was designed for someone who is either very stupid or very slow on the uptake.

That said there are a few nuggets which are worth it - some of the fitness/stretching is quite good, and there's a move he calls " Surf to level " which I've incorporated into my chipping and pitching with great success. But it's a very long slog to pick out a few gold pieces...

The whole thing could have been done in half the time with more impact - but then I guess he could only charge for half the lessons and so earn less  - and as we know in America making money is the only thing that matters.

 

 

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I'm probably one of the few people who has actually managed to complete this programme. The concept is actually rather worthwhile - he wants to teach you the body movements and mechanics of the swing without actually touching a club or hitting a ball for a very long time.
The drawback is endless repetitions of the most simple movements and the relentless hyperbole and artificially pumped up enthusiasm with which every lesson is presented, no doubt genuinely meant. If Trump was a golf instructor this is how I would imagine it....at the end of each lesson there's a test you have to pass which a child of 10 could do. I got the impression that the programme was designed for someone who is either very stupid or very slow on the uptake.
That said there are a few nuggets which are worth it - some of the fitness/stretching is quite good, and there's a move he calls " Surf to level " which I've incorporated into my chipping and pitching with great success. But it's a very long slog to pick out a few gold pieces...
The whole thing could have been done in half the time with more impact - but then I guess he could only charge for half the lessons and so earn less  - and as we know in America making money is the only thing that matters.
 
 
Interesting perspective - thanks! And .. I guess .. congrats on making it thru to the end.

Would you say those "few nuggets" are worth the price (assuming you paid once and not on that recurring subscription plan)?
- eg. was it roughly equivalent to, say, two or (some number of) regular lessons witha pro?

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..Callaway Super Hybrid 23 (PX Catalyst) and Big Bertha 19 5H (Recoil ZTR)
..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) 
..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite)
..Evnroll ER5 (33", 385g, P2 Reflex Tour)
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On 11/30/2018 at 8:33 AM, cksurfdude said:
On 11/29/2018 at 5:27 PM, Headhammer said:
I really don't know anything about it, but I did see an interview with Tahata, Jack Nicklaus & Tom Watson. Jack really went out of his way to say that he really liked the way they taught golf and that they were one of the few methods that get it right. Take that for what its worth.
 

That's interesting.... You wouldn't think either of those two guys are that hard up for endorsement money, so.... maybe Nicklaus' comment is legit..??

It was not a commercial or paid endorsement, as far as I know, but it caught my attention when Jack interrupted the moderator & went out of his way to praise their teaching method. 

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Overall I wasn't worth the price no - and I'm hoping that none of the extra deductions have been made ! ( haven't heard anything so fingers crossed ).

It's a shame because the original concept is rather good, but the execution leaves so much to be desired. And I guess enough people sign up for it for Bryan to think it's Ok. He badly needs some feedback on the process and his own personal presentation.

 

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I ordered the free trial (and of course you have to give a credit card number) and the site told me they would send me an email that included a link to activate the membership. I did this right before Christmas and by the time I checked my email a week later, I did not receive anything from them with a link. A few days later, after emailing them to get the link, my debit card was charged $199.99 for an annual membership. I have continually called (no one answers the phone) and left voicemails and sent emails requesting my money back. I have not heard ANYTHING from them at all. I am now going to go to the BBB and my state's consumer fraud department to report them. DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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40 minutes ago, Toolman said:

my debit card was charged $199.99

Wow that truly sucks 😞 Sorry to hear that, and thx for posting a warning. Definitely not the way to try to build a business.....

Have you called your bank and asked them to deny/reverse the charge?

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..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) 
..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite)
..Evnroll ER5 (33", 385g, P2 Reflex Tour)
..all in a Datrek bag on a Bag Boy Quad XL push an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart.

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I’m on day 10 of the 60 day program. I’m seeing some benefits from the program - the posture, positioning, flexibility and importance on a strong core. I think it’ll be good for me. Probably not for everyone tho.  I plan on finishing the 60 day program. 
 

I went through the 7 day trial and when that ended the month to month membership for $24.99/month hit my credit card. Pretty standard practice I’d say. I didn’t get charged for a whole year. No foul play for me so far. Hopefully I won’t have any issues when I go to cancel. 

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Isn't this the same infomercial/product that Brendan Chamblee is now promoting?  Just scanned through the now two year old thread.  Besides not wanting to touch it with a 3i for the stated issues, what exactly are they selling?  Sounds like a Billy Banks Tai-Chi program.

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11 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

Isn't this the same infomercial/product that Brendan Chamblee is now promoting? 

I think those are recycled commercials from like two+ years ago? It appears the company - under Bryan Heppler - actually went bankrupt and then someone else came in and bought the name and product, I guess you'd call it, and are re-marketing it.

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..Callaway Super Hybrid 23 (PX Catalyst) and Big Bertha 19 5H (Recoil ZTR)
..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) 
..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite)
..Evnroll ER5 (33", 385g, P2 Reflex Tour)
..all in a Datrek bag on a Bag Boy Quad XL push an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart.

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9 hours ago, Mark E G said:

I’m on day 10 of the 60 day program. I’m seeing some benefits from the program - the posture, positioning, flexibility and importance on a strong core. I think it’ll be good for me. Probably not for everyone tho.  I plan on finishing the 60 day program. 
 

I went through the 7 day trial and when that ended the month to month membership for $24.99/month hit my credit card. Pretty standard practice I’d say. I didn’t get charged for a whole year. No foul play for me so far. Hopefully I won’t have any issues when I go to cancel. 

Nice! Hopefully it continues to work out ok for you...

Please come back and update this thread either way, so others can get the info .. thx.

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..Tour Edge Exotics EXS 3W/HL (17*) and EXS 7W (both Tensei CK Blue)
..Callaway Super Hybrid 23 (PX Catalyst) and Big Bertha 19 5H (Recoil ZTR)
..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) 
..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite)
..Evnroll ER5 (33", 385g, P2 Reflex Tour)
..all in a Datrek bag on a Bag Boy Quad XL push an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart.

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