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And as far as independent testing goes - aren't you part of the MGS Most Wanted tests? The same tests the ER2 has one 2 years in a row? Again, I don't think youl will see the technology from putt to putt - it's not like this ball is curving across the green - but over time the results and data will speak for themselves

Yep, I am on of the reviewers and I fully buy into the distance control aspect. With all of the discussion on this topic lately I am just trying to wrap my mind around the concept. Guess I like to understand the claims before I accept them. This is part of the reason I like being part of the tests, I can actually see how the claims pan out head to head. And for what it's worth the evnroll wasn't my top putter.

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Yep, I am on of the reviewers and I fully buy into the distance control aspect. With all of the discussion on this topic lately I am just trying to wrap my mind around the concept. Guess I like to understand the claims before I accept them. This is part of the reason I like being part of the tests, I can actually see how the claims pan out head to head. And for what it's worth the evnroll wasn't my top putter.

 

Without making this more convoluted, was your top putter a tech or no tech putter? I would be intrigued to hear that answer. 

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Also, I am about 99% sure I am purchasing an ER 1.2 for the start of the season. Perfect combo for me.

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Without making this more convoluted, was your top putter a tech or no tech putter? I would be intrigued to hear that answer.

I think last year it would be considered no tech it was the Huntington Beach #1. This year Cleveland has introduced new grooves.

 

In all honesty my questions/comments are purely about understanding. I believe and have seen the distance control features. I will in all likelihood purchase an evnroll putter for myself. I roll Golfspy Sams whenever I go for my testing sessions.

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I think last year it would be considered no tech it was the Huntington Beach #1. This year Cleveland has introduced new grooves.

 

In all honesty my questions/comments are purely about understanding. I believe and have seen the distance control features. I will in all likelihood purchase an evnroll putter for myself. I roll Golfspy Sams whenever I go for my testing sessions.

 

I don't think there is anything wrong at all with your questions! Asking questions is how we learn and grow. Without questions life becomes stagnant. 

 

My statement about convolution was alluding to a larger overall question that I think bears asking and answering.

 

I understand that the consensus statement provided from MGS is that generally speaking each of us would benefit in performance when comparing tech vs no tech on a putter. From a statistical standpoint, I understand that it is able to be quantified using strokes gained that comparing tech vs no tech (say evnroll vs scotty cameron) in a GENERAL sense the Evnroll will outperform the Scotty consistently and over the course of a season lead to a lower net putt count over the Scotty. I understand that.

 

My question lies in this. When you apply the individual golfer to the equation does this statement change? Do we each bring individual overriding factors that make one type of putter (tech or no tech) perform better for us than another? If that ISN'T the answer, then how can we not apply a blanket statement to the golfing population that every one of us should use the best performing tech equipped putter bar none? How could the Huntington beach #1 outperform the Evnroll for you personally, but yet statistically be the best putter for everyone?

 

I am not saying those are the statements that are being made. I am simply stating the conclusions that are easy to come to from the idea that has been presented, and trying to frame it in a way that can lead to a positive discussion.

 

Am I missing something?

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I don't think there is anything wrong at all with your questions! Asking questions is how we learn and grow. Without questions life becomes stagnant.

 

My statement about convolution was alluding to a larger overall question that I think bears asking and answering.

 

I understand that the consensus statement provided from MGS is that generally speaking each of us would benefit in performance when comparing tech vs no tech on a putter. From a statistical standpoint, I understand that it is able to be quantified using strokes gained that comparing tech vs no tech (say evnroll vs scotty cameron) in a GENERAL sense the Evnroll will outperform the Scotty consistently and over the course of a season lead to a lower net putt count over the Scotty. I understand that.

 

My question lies in this. When you apply the individual golfer to the equation does this statement change? Do we each bring individual overriding factors that make one type of putter (tech or no tech) perform better for us than another? If that ISN'T the answer, then how can we not apply a blanket statement to the golfing population that every one of us should use the best performing tech equipped putter bar none? How could the Huntington beach #1 outperform the Evnroll for you personally, but yet statistically be the best putter for everyone?

 

I am not saying those are the statements that are being made. I am simply stating the conclusions that are easy to come to from the idea that has been presented, and trying to frame it in a way that can lead to a positive discussion.

 

Am I missing something?

I have my thoughts related to your post, but i think it will end up being fairly long so I will respond when I get home and have a full keyboard and bigger screen to use.

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Do you guys think we could start a new thread to talk about this?  I think it is a fascinating and very important topic, but it might be best to get it's own thread so we don't take the Evnroll thread too far off track

 

Agreed. Should have it's own place.

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So you have seen this effect personally or are there independent Tests that show the same thing? Call me doubtful but to me the gear effect or turning the ball toward the center seems to defy physics.

 

I have tried to test it myself and I like the evnroll putters. I think the grooves are the most effective for distance control.but can't say that I can confirm the gear effect.

I had a busy work week, haven't been following this at all. How did we get down THIS rabbit hole? I never took the testing results to imply that an Evnroll putter imparted spin onto the golf ball.

 

 

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I had a busy work week, haven't been following this at all. How did we get down THIS rabbit hole? I never took the testing results to imply that an Evnroll putter imparted spin onto the golf ball.

 

 

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Lots of twitter, facebook, and instagram posts.

Definitely saw some of the Twitter “attacks” I'll call them.

 

 

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Sorry just noticing this.

 

I don't know that I'm astute enough to say if my direction control is improved. Distance control beyond a doubt but whose to say whether I'm getting a benefit in direction control. I'm imprecise at reading putts and getting them started on line. It's often dumb luck when I hole a longer one.

 

I can pretend that I read it that way with the best of them but trust me, I didn't. 🤭

 

 

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Just a word to all.

 

My ER6 is back in the bag. I have been putting very well with it this past week.

 

 

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  • 1 month later...

Thinking of getting the ER2 CS. Has anyone gamed this one?

 

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I played today without my ER2 which is still getting refinished. My God did I miss it. I never want to play a round of golf without it again.

Hey Joe, where did you get it refinished. My ER6 has some damage to the corners..

 

 

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Hey Joe, where did you get it refinished. My ER6 has some damage to the corners..

 

 

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Mine is currently with Kyle at The Golf Garage (contact him through instagram or facebook), though he has a heavy backlog right now and you might want to ask him what the turnaround time would be for what you are looking for.

 

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I think it's just been released within the last few weeks so I haven't seen anyone with one yet

Yeah i believe it is very new. Need that in my bag

 

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Just wondering if anyone has been using them, they sound like a game changer. Let me know your thoughts and experiences with them.

Thank

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Just wondering if anyone has been using them, they sound like a game changer. Let me know your thoughts and experiences with them.

Thank

 

Check the forum reviews there is a lot of great feedback in there :)

 

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Just wondering if anyone has been using them, they sound like a game changer. Let me know your thoughts and experiences with them.

Thank

Lots of different threads about them here. I personally use the ER2 and its great! It benched 2 different Scotty's that had done some good work for me in the past

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Just wondering if anyone has been using them, they sound like a game changer. Let me know your thoughts and experiences with them.

Thank

Yep. I have an ER2 that I like quite well. Is it a game changer? Nope. I do make a few more putts than I used to, and I love the quality "feel" of it. So................. take that for what it's worth.

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ER1 user here. Staying in the bag...

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Thanks guys I'm thinking about getting the centre shaft version, my putting has been horrible. I'm hoping that I just need something fresh to spruce up my play around the greens

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Just bumped the main thread and linked you to my stage 2 review in it

Thanks I'll take look.

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Putting a P2 on my ER2 today :)

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