Joey East Coast Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I believe Randy Haag once said Bryson would be the best side-saddle putter the Tour has seen. I have my doubts... Shredder Stand Bag / TP SLDR S Mini 16* / Pro DHy 18* / Baffler 7w 20* / King F6 irons 5i-GW / J15 54* / Sierra 101-Soft / Z-star balls / all shafts regular flex / Lamkin Crossline Ace 3GEN oversize grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Is he trying it because he is playing with Lexi this week?? “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey East Coast Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Is he trying it because he is playing with Lexi this week?? I've done worse in an attempt to impress a girl. I ain't mad at him. Shredder Stand Bag / TP SLDR S Mini 16* / Pro DHy 18* / Baffler 7w 20* / King F6 irons 5i-GW / J15 54* / Sierra 101-Soft / Z-star balls / all shafts regular flex / Lamkin Crossline Ace 3GEN oversize grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethO Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I bet that guy is super weird IRL Life before death Strength before weakness Journey before destination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I bet that guy is super weird IRL Maybe a little mad scientist going on huh? Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I'd do it if it helped me sink more putts... MDGolfHacker TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethO Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Maybe a little mad scientist going on huh?Yeah. He seems like a very intelligent person, but I bet he over thinks everything. Life before death Strength before weakness Journey before destination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnythec Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 He's gonna disappear into obscurity soon enough. Sent from my iPhone while sitting at the 19th hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I thought he was already a pretty good putter but if he thinks it will help him further then I am all for it. Every one thought he was nuts on the constant length clubs and huge grips but he has started something. Several companies are marketing heads for constant length clubs including Tom Wishon. Like everything else in golf It ain't for everyone (me included) but for some I can see it helping some folks Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Yeah. He seems like a very intelligent person, but I bet he over thinks everything. Most people with minds like that tend to "over engineer" at times. Their minds run like a computer Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey East Coast Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Shredder Stand Bag / TP SLDR S Mini 16* / Pro DHy 18* / Baffler 7w 20* / King F6 irons 5i-GW / J15 54* / Sierra 101-Soft / Z-star balls / all shafts regular flex / Lamkin Crossline Ace 3GEN oversize grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Seems a little early in a career to be making a change like that IMO. I would have thought he was a good putter to even get to the level he is and with all the accomplishments he's had so far. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808nation Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Croquet anyone? WITB: Driver: Sim2 Max w/ Fujikura Motore X F3 shaft FW Wood: F9 wood 14.5* Hybrids: Sim2 Max 3 Hybrid & Vapor Flex 4 hybrid Irons: Z565 - 7 thru PW & ZU85 - 5 thru 6 with Recoil ZT9 F4 shafts Wedges: RTX4 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Scotty Cameron M2 Newport Ball: Black & Pro V1 Bag: 2018 MyGolfSpy stand Bag & 2021 Greenside Golf stand bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnythec Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 There's no way he putts in a tourney this way. Sent from my iPhone while sitting at the 19th hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin H Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I expected better here at MGS. I saw some vitriol thrown at DeChambeau over at wrx, but thought this forum would embrace the forward thinking Is it different? Maybe. Will it work? According to Dave Pell, it probably will. http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/sidesaddle-putting-why-sam-sneads-method-might-be-post-anchoing-future-putting And Gary McCord, the master of instruction, thinks so too. http://www.golfdigest.com/story/fun-issue-gary-mccord-putting Even if it doesn't last, I like that someone is trying something new in what can often be a fairly staid sport. It'll be interesting. Worst case it'll be something to watch while waiting for Tiger's next tournament. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Driver: Taylormade SLDR, Diamana Kai'li 70 3 Wood: Callaway X Tour 15* Hybrid: Bobby Jones 21* (Original) Irons: Bridgestone J38 DPC 4-PW Wedges: Scor 4161 52*, 57* Putter: Scotty Cameron Studio Style Newport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Ball Markers Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I agree - I don't know that he's 'my kinda guy' but I can't bash on him - he might be weird, but he's making a lot more money than I am, and he's playing golf with Lexi all week! In all seriousness, he has already changed the sport - single length irons are gaining popularity, I'm seeing people wearing those hats, and I'll bet you start seeing local people putting sideways by the spring. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy http://www.instagram.com/libertyballmarkers/ http://www.birdie-bomb.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 He makes me think he'll tinker his WHOLE career and not really ever be great. I could see him going a similar path like Charles Howell III who's a declared tinkerer as well. Time will tell... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey East Coast Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 I expected better here at MGS. I saw some vitriol thrown at DeChambeau over at wrx, but thought this forum would embrace the forward thinking Hey, no hate here. I would love to see him win or top 5 it with that stroke and turn the forums/OEMs on their heads. It would be arm-lock push 2.0. Shredder Stand Bag / TP SLDR S Mini 16* / Pro DHy 18* / Baffler 7w 20* / King F6 irons 5i-GW / J15 54* / Sierra 101-Soft / Z-star balls / all shafts regular flex / Lamkin Crossline Ace 3GEN oversize grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Ball Markers Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 He makes me think he'll tinker his WHOLE career and not really ever be great. I could see him going a similar path like Charles Howell III who's a declared tinkerer as well. Time will tell... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree! I play with a guy like that, who has a 'new tweak' or 'swing change' every week and wonders why he never gets better. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy http://www.instagram.com/libertyballmarkers/ http://www.birdie-bomb.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey East Coast Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 he has already changed the sport - single length irons are gaining popularity, I'm seeing people wearing those hats, and I'll bet you start seeing local people putting sideways by the spring. Changed the sport? Debatable at best. As for single length irons, don't confuse "available for purchase" with "gaining popularity". Scally caps have also been around for decades, just look at Ty Webb. KJ Choi tried side-saddle at the 2010 John Deere and was subjected to the same doubts and skepticism Bryson is currently experiencing. I question how much is game-tinkering and how much is quirky marketing. Regardless, his hustle is real. Dude has his card for '17 and is making his money. Gotta respect that at the very least. Shredder Stand Bag / TP SLDR S Mini 16* / Pro DHy 18* / Baffler 7w 20* / King F6 irons 5i-GW / J15 54* / Sierra 101-Soft / Z-star balls / all shafts regular flex / Lamkin Crossline Ace 3GEN oversize grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 With only a few exceptions, most pros tinker all the time, especially with putting. How many different putters and putting grips have you seen the pros use in the past 5 years. Phil, Sergio, Rory... Some work, some don't, but they are always tinkering, looking for an advantage over what they have been doing. BD is no different. Part of his "brand" if you want to call it that, is what I call throwback; I almost expect him to wear knickers at some point, but he has to be careful to not step into the Payne Stewart model... yet. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthanSterlingPrice Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I bet that guy is super weird IRL I've gotten to talk to him a few times and he's fine. He's just real passionate about certain topics, and extremely smart. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Right Handed 4.5 handicap Driver: Nike Vapor Flex with Mitsubishi Rayon Fubuki ZT60x5ct S-flex shaft and stock grip. 3-Metal: Nike VRS 15 degree with Mitsubishi Rayon tour issue Diamana S73x5ct X-flex shaft and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grip. Irons: Ben Hogan PTx 22, 26, 30, 34, 38, 42, 46 degrees standard length and lie with KBS Tour-V stiff shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Wedges: Ben Hogan TK15 54, 58 degrees with KBS Tour-V X-flex shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Putter: Nike Method Converge B1|01 with Superstroke Flatso 2.0 grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireinthehole Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Didn't Snead side saddle later in his career? Really helps you sweep it to the cup- looks so weird though! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy My Mixed-Bag: Driver: Mavrik Sub zero, ventus black 7x Fairway: Still looking! Irons: MP-18 MB 4-PW Wedges: Miura K Grinds Putter: Evnroll 1.2 blade Ball: Z star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Didn't Snead side saddle later in his career? Really helps you sweep it to the cup- looks so weird though! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I actually like this or a modified version of it Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chershey Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 If it improved my putting I'd be all in on side saddle putting! It might look goofy but I can handle that if the results are there. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Titleist TS3 9.5* w/Accra TZ5 65 X-Stiff Titleist TS3 15* w/Fujikura Ventus 7X Callaway Apex19 Hybrid 20* w/Accra TZ5 95X Callaway Apex19 Hybrid 23* w/Accra TZ5 95X Titleist 718 CB 5 iron w/KBS $Taper X-Stiff Titleist 718 MB 6-PW w/KBS $Taper X-Stiff Titleist SM7 Wedges 50*, 54*, 58* w/KBS $Taper X-Stiff Bettinardi Queen B 10 34.5" Titleist Pro V1 or Snell MTB-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 It would appear the USGA, in it's infinite wisdom, has gotten in it's own way again. http://www.morningread.com/releases/4d684bcd-591a-444e-b8fc-1b31360818b6 According to Adam Schupak, the USGA has deemed DeChambeau's putter to be nonconforming. Inspecting the putter on a weekly basis, according to the article, gives me the impression the USGA is trying to find a way to make DeChambeau conform rather than use a conforming club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemclub Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 It would appear the USGA, in it's infinite wisdom, has gotten in it's own way again. http://www.morningread.com/releases/4d684bcd-591a-444e-b8fc-1b31360818b6 According to Adam Schupak, the USGA has deemed DeChambeau's putter to be nonconforming. Inspecting the putter on a weekly basis, according to the article, gives me the impression the USGA is trying to find a way to make DeChambeau conform rather than use a conforming club. I wonder if the USGA is trying to get him to give it up voluntarily. Quote from your linked article "DeChambeau, 23, was able to use the putter head but with the shaft in the rear instead of the center of the club. " In doing so, it causes him to push the COG through impact rather than pull it through impact with the shaft placed at the front of the putter head. This can lead to more unstable face angle and reduced MOI on off-center hits. Thus, if Bryson were to find that the putter was too unforgiving, he would voluntarily give it up for an alternative. Ultimately, this would be the best case scenario for USGA. Instead of looking bad by banning him from using it, he would simply stop and people would think it just wasn't working for him. Conspiracy? Bag: Bennington Quiet Organizer 9-Lite (link) Cart: 3.5+ Driver: F9 speedback, Accra iWood Woods: Sonartec GS Tour 14*, Fujikura Six S DI: T-MB 2 iron, KBS Tour-V 120 X, Irons: PP-9003SN 4-GW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff Wedges: 1957 K-grind SW, LW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff Putter: EXO Indianapolis (link) Ball: MTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I wonder if the USGA is trying to get him to give it up voluntarily. Quote from your linked article "DeChambeau, 23, was able to use the putter head but with the shaft in the rear instead of the center of the club. " In doing so, it causes him to push the COG through impact rather than pull it through impact with the shaft placed at the front of the putter head. This can lead to more unstable face angle and reduced MOI on off-center hits. Thus, if Bryson were to find that the putter was too unforgiving, he would voluntarily give it up for an alternative. Ultimately, this would be the best case scenario for USGA. Instead of looking bad by banning him from using it, he would simply stop and people would think it just wasn't working for him. Conspiracy? I think they were hoping for him to give it up voluntarily by pushing a 23 year old kid in the direction they would like for him to go. In my opinion, I think this is far more about optics with the USGA than the construction of the putter itself. They don't like the look of it and it doesn't fit with the 'old guard traditionalists" mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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