Epic Driver

[chershey]

Finally got to try the EPIC Sub Zero yesterday. 9 yards more carry than my XR16 Sub Zero with the same shaft in both. Didn't take me long to order. It felt better and seemed more forgiving as well.

 

 

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[Bags]

This would be soooooo cool! It seriously makes good sense for the consumers 🏌️

 

 

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agree great idea unfortunately manufacturers are into selling complete clubs and driving bottom line revenue so prop mot

 

 

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[Samson]

Tried it today.... Nice club. Great fitting staff... I did probably gain 8 yards. But at 765$ up north of the border I am gonna have to pass.

 

 

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[cnosil]

I had an opportunity to try an Epic as well as as the 2017 M1.   I didn't try to do a fitting,  just picked up the clubs and gave them a try.   The M1 was a 9.5 with Hzrdous black and the Epic was 9 and had the Fujikura Pro Green.  

 

The Epic gave me about 1.5mph greater swing speed and better launch angle.  Both clubs felt pretty good.  I am eager to try and do a fitting and compare against my current driver.   

[PMookie]

My local shop will have the Callaway rep in tomorrow to do some Epic fittings. It's indoors using a Zelocity launch monitor.... Oh well. I'll keep waiting.

 

 

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[cnosil]

My local shop will have the Callaway rep in tomorrow to do some Epic fittings. It's indoors using a Zelocity launch monitor.... Oh well. I'll keep waiting

Good opportunity to go play

[PMookie]

So I did decide to go by and take a look at the Epic since the rep was there with the whole system. The owner of the store says, "Coach, you want to go next door and hit it on your buddy's TrackMan?" Um..... That's a dumb question! "Sure. Why not," I say. So off I go with the Callaway rep, 2 heads, and about 8 shafts I chose.

I got warmed-up and proceeded to hit my M1. Numbers were exactly like they had been: 157-158 max ball speed, hitting it a little right, then straight, then three more right. Smash never exceeds 1.48.

Ok. Baseline is set.

I tell the Cally rep to start me in the Sub Zero 9.0, Hzrdus Black, 75g, 6.5. The first thing I saw was a little draw, no rights... Hmm.

Next shot, 159 ball speed, baby draw, down the middle. Hmmm.

I take a few more swings. Hmm. 160 ball speed pops-up... Straight shot. Dang!

Spin was still high so he starts to tinker with the head, then switches shafts, then raises and lowers loft, then we change heads. Then we change back to the Sub Zero. He tells me how PGA guys are actually getting up to 1.52 smash with this head...

Boom. 160 ball speed, 1.51 smash! Spin still a bit high.

Knocks down the head loft a degree and spin comes down a bit more.

Overall, with the SZ, I hit four shots between 5-12 yards right. Everything else was a baby draw, tight to the line.

I reduced my dispersion by 11 yards!!! WHAT?! I increased my ball speed, over all hits between M1 and SZ, 3 mph. And, to finish it off, I hit this one:

ONE HUNDRED, SIXTY TWO ball speed (11 yards right of center), 1.50 smash!!! Ho-ly COW. I haven't hit 162 ball speed in YEARS!

To sum it up, I'm VERY impressed! Wow.

The feel of the Epic is definitely harder than M1... It doesn't feel anywhere near as good. But... 3 mph more ball speed AND 11 yards of dispersion reduced?! Yeah. This looks like it would work for me JUUUUUUST fine!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Kenny B]

So I did decide to go by and take a look at the Epic since the rep was there with the whole system. The owner of the store says, "Coach, you want to go next door and hit it on your buddy's TrackMan?" Um..... That's a dumb question! "Sure. Why not," I say. So off I go with the Callaway rep, 2 heads, and about 8 shafts I chose.

I got warmed-up and proceeded to hit my M1. Numbers were exactly like they had been: 157-158 max ball speed, hitting it a little right, then straight, then three more right. Smash never exceeds 1.48.

Ok. Baseline is set.

I tell the Cally rep to start me in the Sub Zero 9.0, Hzrdus Black, 75g, 6.0.

The first thing I saw was a little draw, no rights... Hmm.

Next shot, 159 ball speed, baby draw, down the middle. Hmmm.

I take a few more swings. Hmm. 160 ball speed pops-up... Straight shot. Dang!

Spin was still high so he starts to tinker with the head, then switches shafts, then raises and lowers loft, then we change heads. Then we change back to the Sub Zero. He tells me how PGA guys are actually getting up to 1.52 smash with this head...

Boom. 160 ball speed, 1.51 smash! Spin still a bit high.

Knocks down the head loft a degree and spin comes down a bit more.

Overall, with the SZ, I hit four shots between 5-12 yards right. Everything else was a baby draw, tight to the line.

I reduced my dispersion by 11 yards!!! WHAT?! I increased my ball speed, over all hits between M1 and SZ, 3 mph. And, to finish it off, I hit this one:

ONE HUNDRED, SIXTY TWO ball speed (11 yards right of center), 1.50 smash!!! Ho-ly COW. I haven't hit 162 ball speed in YEARS!

To sum it up, I'm VERY impressed! Wow.

The feel of the Epic is definitely harder than M1... It doesn't feel anywhere near as good. But... 3 mph more ball speed AND 11 yards of dispersion reduced?! Yeah. This looks like it would work for me JUUUUUUST fine!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sounds...  Epic

[PMookie]

Major issue with me actually ordering the club is the Hzrdus Black is a $250 upcharge! OUCH!!!!!!!!!

 

 

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[Kenny B]

Major issue with me actually ordering the club is the Hzrdus Black is a $250 upcharge! OUCH!!!!!!!!!

 

 

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I don't think Cobra charges for an upgrade to that shaft.

[ole gray]

Major issue with me actually ordering the club is the Hzrdus Black is a $250 upcharge! OUCH!!!!!!!!!

 

 

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Sell some stuff Mook and get what you really want

 

 

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[hckymeyer]

Major issue with me actually ordering the club is the Hzrdus Black is a $250 upcharge! OUCH!!!!!!!!!

 

 

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You can get a pull much less expensive, just need to make sure of the tipping.

 

I don't think Cobra charges for an upgrade to that shaft.

Correct, but it's not the handcrafted version.  Same shaft in theory, just one is mass produced on the assembly line and one is hand rolled.

[PMookie]

I finally got the image to post!!!!

 

 

 

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[Bags]

So I did decide to go by and take a look at the Epic since the rep was there with the whole system. The owner of the store says, "Coach, you want to go next door and hit it on your buddy's TrackMan?" Um..... That's a dumb question! "Sure. Why not," I say. So off I go with the Callaway rep, 2 heads, and about 8 shafts I chose.

I got warmed-up and proceeded to hit my M1. Numbers were exactly like they had been: 157-158 max ball speed, hitting it a little right, then straight, then three more right. Smash never exceeds 1.48.

Ok. Baseline is set.

I tell the Cally rep to start me in the Sub Zero 9.0, Hzrdus Black, 75g, 6.0.

The first thing I saw was a little draw, no rights... Hmm.

Next shot, 159 ball speed, baby draw, down the middle. Hmmm.

I take a few more swings. Hmm. 160 ball speed pops-up... Straight shot. Dang!

Spin was still high so he starts to tinker with the head, then switches shafts, then raises and lowers loft, then we change heads. Then we change back to the Sub Zero. He tells me how PGA guys are actually getting up to 1.52 smash with this head...

Boom. 160 ball speed, 1.51 smash! Spin still a bit high.

Knocks down the head loft a degree and spin comes down a bit more.

Overall, with the SZ, I hit four shots between 5-12 yards right. Everything else was a baby draw, tight to the line.

I reduced my dispersion by 11 yards!!! WHAT?! I increased my ball speed, over all hits between M1 and SZ, 3 mph. And, to finish it off, I hit this one:

ONE HUNDRED, SIXTY TWO ball speed (11 yards right of center), 1.50 smash!!! Ho-ly COW. I haven't hit 162 ball speed in YEARS!

To sum it up, I'm VERY impressed! Wow.

The feel of the Epic is definitely harder than M1... It doesn't feel anywhere near as good. But... 3 mph more ball speed AND 11 yards of dispersion reduced?! Yeah. This looks like it would work for me JUUUUUUST fine!

 

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Great write up

 

 

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[dirtfrmr]

fanatastic write up

[hckymeyer]

Went in to Golf Galaxy and hit the Epic today.  Regular Epic and I don't get along.  Messed around with the Sub Zero for quite a while in various settings and both 9 & 10.5 degree heads.  Alternating Rogue Max and Hzrdus T800 shafts.

 

Overall results are that SLDR still wins for me.  I was 3mph faster ball speed with the SLDR.  I was hitting on a Flightscope without HMT so couldn't see impact location or smash factor.  I think part of it was the length.  I'm not used to a 45.5" driver (too long) and a lot of my shots were towards the heel with the SZ.  

 

I'll go back and test again when I haven't had a 2 month break since swinging a club, but my first impressions weren't that great.  On the plus side it will be easier to keep my New Years resolution of no new drivers for a while longer.

[null]

Went in to Golf Galaxy and hit the Epic today. Regular Epic and I don't get along. Messed around with the Sub Zero for quite a while in various settings and both 9 & 10.5 degree heads. Alternating Rogue Max and Hzrdus T800 shafts.

 

Overall results are that SLDR still wins for me. I was 3mph faster ball speed with the SLDR. I was hitting on a Flightscope without HMT so couldn't see impact location or smash factor. I think part of it was the length. I'm not used to a 45.5" driver (too long) and a lot of my shots were towards the heel with the SZ.

 

I'll go back and test again when I haven't had a 2 month break since swinging a club, but my first impressions weren't that great. On the plus side it will be easier to keep my New Years resolution of no new drivers for a while longer.

I had a similar experience today with my M1 vs Epic SZ. Feel off the SZ was very unique

[ole gray]

Went in to Golf Galaxy and hit the Epic today.  Regular Epic and I don't get along.  Messed around with the Sub Zero for quite a while in various settings and both 9 & 10.5 degree heads.  Alternating Rogue Max and Hzrdus T800 shafts.

 

Overall results are that SLDR still wins for me.  I was 3mph faster ball speed with the SLDR.  I was hitting on a Flightscope without HMT so couldn't see impact location or smash factor.  I think part of it was the length.  I'm not used to a 45.5" driver (too long) and a lot of my shots were towards the heel with the SZ.  

 

I'll go back and test again when I haven't had a 2 month break since swinging a club, but my first impressions weren't that great.  On the plus side it will be easier to keep my New Years resolution of no new drivers for a while longer.

 

 

Yea I got along much better with the Fusion.  It must be an old man thing but the Fusion gave me much better overall numbers.  I have to say the Epic is a pretty little thing and I'm sure it will be an awesome stick for many but not my cup of tea.

[chershey]

Went in to Golf Galaxy and hit the Epic today. Regular Epic and I don't get along. Messed around with the Sub Zero for quite a while in various settings and both 9 & 10.5 degree heads. Alternating Rogue Max and Hzrdus T800 shafts.

 

Overall results are that SLDR still wins for me. I was 3mph faster ball speed with the SLDR. I was hitting on a Flightscope without HMT so couldn't see impact location or smash factor. I think part of it was the length. I'm not used to a 45.5" driver (too long) and a lot of my shots were towards the heel with the SZ.

 

I'll go back and test again when I haven't had a 2 month break since swinging a club, but my first impressions weren't that great. On the plus side it will be easier to keep my New Years resolution of no new drivers for a while longer.

Yeah, I was using the shorter length shaft from my XR16 SZ, when I tested, so I was striking it center and seeing great numbers. I think the shaft length would have made a huge difference.

 

 

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[ole gray]

Yeah, I was using the shorter length shaft from my XR16 SZ, when I tested, so I was striking it center and seeing great numbers. I think the shaft length would have made a huge difference.

 

 

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That's a given for me and that's good the shaft adapters fit most if not all of these new products.  

[Jonnythec]

Looked today at the golftown website and the epic is $660. I would rather buy a pxg slightly used driver then drop $660 on a driver that's gonna be a lot less in 6 months. At least the pxg will hold its value better.

 

 

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[chershey]

Looked today at the golftown website and the epic is $660. I would rather buy a pxg slightly used driver then drop $660 on a driver that's gonna be a lot less in 6 months. At least the pxg will hold its value better.

 

 

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That price is ridiculous. You can buy it straight from Callaway for $500.

 

 

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[PMookie]

Pulled the trigger on the one I was fitted to. Sold the M1 and my Ping wedges, so $175 after taxes after using the $ from the sale of the other stuff.

 

 

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[null]

Pulled the trigger on the one I was fitted to. Sold the M1 and my Ping wedges, so $175 after taxes after using the $ from the sale of the other stuff.

 

 

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I'm sure you'll love it (for a few months ;P)

[ole gray]

Pulled the trigger on the one I was fitted to. Sold the M1 and my Ping wedges, so $175 after taxes after using the $ from the sale of the other stuff.

 

 

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Good for you Mook! Enjoy this and it will be an Epic year🏌️

 

 

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[Orange Hog]

I had some shafts installed in my back up set the other day so I decided to mess around with an Epic SZ while I waited on the club guy to finish up.  Sadly the "fitter" in the local shop was completely hopeless.

 

First he set me up with a 10.5 degree head, which generally is too much loft for me but I figured I'd try it.  Also put me in the Aldila Rogue Black 60 shaft.  Hit about 5-6 shots with it and 4 of them were big fades.  Looked down at the shaft and realized the "fitter" put me into a Reg flex shaft.  Told him I needed something in at least a stiff flex so he popped in the Diamana shaft.  Traditionally Diamana shafts and I don't get along well but again I tried to give this guy the benefit of a doubt.  Similar result after hitting a few shots but not quite as far right.  Also discovered that he dropped down the loft one degree, which as I understand opens up the face a bit.  At that point I handed it back to him and said I was done.

 

I had a couple that I was able to hit dead straight but really had to work my hands over to square up the face.  Those carried around 260 yards, which is right in line with my average with my M2.  The spin rate, though, is what blew me away.  I was getting between 3800-4200 rpm from this driver.  Not at all what I expected from a low spinning head.  Again, my M2 is down in the 2500 range.

 

i'm sure if I had a true fitter set me up with the proper head/shaft combo I could get better numbers out of the Epic.  That said, off the rack there's no way this thing beats out my M2.

 

I will say that I do quite like the look and the feel on impact.

[JudgeSmails]

hit one this weekend......me likey......don't think it was the right setup for me, cause I was actually fighting a hook of all things, but the ones I hit well come off noticeably 'hotter'

[bmabozo1]

$500 driver Cost---$40 to build; $100 to promote; $360 sucker surcharge. Have five drivers now. Currently loving my 14 year old R5 and my $49 Tour Edge Exotics bought on RBG .

 

 

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[cksurfdude]

 

 

$500 driver Cost---$40 to build; $100 to promote; $360 sucker surcharge.

Hey, c'mon, somebody has to help cover the big marketing / ad costs plus the salaries & bene's of all those beautiful young people working all the social media channels.........

[hckymeyer]

Looked today at the golftown website and the epic is $660. I would rather buy a pxg slightly used driver then drop $660 on a driver that's gonna be a lot less in 6 months. At least the pxg will hold its value better.

 

 

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Buying a driver based on expected resale value is probably not the best way to get a proper fit

 

That price is ridiculous. You can buy it straight from Callaway for $500.

 

 

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I'm assuming that price was CAD.  $500 US = about $660 CAD