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After some practice on the office green, I am getting a better feel for putting with these balls. They feel much firmer and are far more explosive than the 330RX that I usually use.

Seem to be struggling more with Pinky than the others...

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Just like Bridgestone, or Titleist, or any ball maker, they make a variety. Some are urethane covered, some aren't. Price goes with what type of cover they have just like everyone else. No other ball

I was able to hook a few of our seniors at my golf course with the yellow vision balls.   One of the things that they loved about them was the visibility of the balls.  Not just on the ground but also

We did cover this way back when this thread started, if you shine a UV light on these balls before use they are great for low light golf, late in the day, dusk, that sort of thing, they retain a glow

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Hi Guys, youre welcome Foz, no traditional styled product comng down this shute as

that market is saturated so I will keep working with my Ezy-2-See markings.

 

Hi ST, the Gel V balls will be hotter than your RX as that like many Urethane products

will be slower off your putter and maybe a little softer and quieter. The Pinky is the

hottest ball in the group and is mean't to be able to pop for playerslooking for help

with real distance gains.

 

The other thing to understand with my designs, you as a player get used to a feel/sound

flight over a number of rounds and that then becomes your normal set of specs. My players

that have played the balls for a while have found the hidden performnace is there after

they dial them into their play and I know for many players 9 / 18 holes unfortunately

can't achieve this.

 

So please don't worry if you feel they don't work for you as I know now that I need to

dial in a ittle more of the urethane like putting feel through the range to help with

players coming across to me but what I have done is make each of the covers a little

different so atleast one of the balls will make the right impression.

 

There are three cover finishes involved painted / coloured and clear which all effect

the feel of the cover material, not in a bad way it just makes them different.

 

Cheers,

Boz.

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Following from the above, yes he is right. I have been astounded to get to a green after thumping a Vision Ball and thinking that I will know how this thing is going to putt. The feel off the driver/irons can be very deceiving when putting. Your brain thinks We have just hit the ball that far, now that we have putter in end you only have to give this ball a slight tap, ummmm error.

 

It is all trail and error and as Boz said it may take more than a few holes to work out what each ball really can do.

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I played 9 holes in my league last night and tried out a few of the items in Boz's care package. For starters, let's talk about the glove. It is a departure for me in terms of material. I'm very picky about my gloves, and I find that most of the gloves that use a lot of "Spandex"-type material just feel somehow "wrong" to me. For that reason, I always buy gloves that are all or mostly real or synthetic leather - the Footjoy WeatherSof is a favorite. I also have trouble finding a glove that fits me correctly. Footjoys fit, as do Bridgestone and, oddly, Kirkland (CostCo). If I had seen the Vision glove in a store I would have passed on it for this reason.

 

And I'd have missed out.

 

I found the Vision glove to be nice looking and well-fitting. The tacky surface works well when your hands or grips get wet; it was very humid last night and I had no trouble gripping the club. The tacky surface reminds me a big of goalie gloves - the inspiration, maybe? You can feel the club very well, though it it a bit...lighter, I guess, than I'm used to. It's probably the effect of the different material on the palm-side than what I usually wear. After four holes or so I didn't notice it at all, which is a good thing; if you notice your glove, there's something wrong with it.

 

Ball-wise, I tried the Gel for 3 holes, the yellow X3 for 3 holes, and the Pinky for one hole. I started the nine with my usual balls, since it takes me a few to warm up and I didn't want to lose these things before I had a chance to find out what they can do. Good thing, too, because my driver deserted me yesterday. My first swing with the Gel was a nine-iron into a par 3. It felt very smooth at contact, had a high flight (as I tend to), and landed some 25 feet left of the pin, owing to the fact that I yanked it on my follow-through. Contrary to Boz's advice, I did not spend any time putting with them before heading out. I found out that it didn't matter in the least. I holed that 25-footer for birdie. Next hole I hit a 160 yard 7 iron and just missed a 20-footer for birdie. Next hole I just missed a 40 footer for birdie (if I could ever land near the hole I'd be really dangerous).

 

BTW, when you chip or pitch with the large-number balls it looks very strange at first. Those big numbers really help you see the spin on the ball, which would normally be invisible at any kind of distance.

 

When I first saw the yellow balls at home I have to admit I was a bit underwhelmed. "Not really that bright," I thought. Then I looked at them outside. They have to be the brightest golf balls I've ever seen! Performance was similar to the Gel, in my estimation. The cover felt firmer to me when putting, though I'd have to take some time to roll them side-by-side to really know for sure. Also, I can attest to the brightness making them easier to find. My first drive hooked into some thick rough, the kind where you practically have to step on the ball to find it. I saw it from 10 feet away. Brilliant!

 

The last hole at Lincoln Park Golf Course is a 298-yard par 4, which yesterday played about 310 into a stiff breeze. I hit the yellow X3 pretty well, but yanked left again (persistent problem all day). Once again the bright yellow allowed me to follow the ball all the way down, which is a feat as the 9th also faces due west. It still went about 260 even though I didn't hit it great. Just for the fun of it, and since the group behind us was still on the 8th tee, I teed up the Pinky. The ribbing of my playing partners lasted only as long as it took me to hit my second drive. It rolled to a stop 280 yards later on the right side of the fairway, my first good driver swing of the day. Given the wind conditions and tee placement yesterday, I think I can say that the Pinky is at least as long as anything else I've hit, and easily visible in the sky. I also found the Pinky to be hot off the putter, but a few practice putts will dial that in.

 

Overall, I was impressed with the Vision products. My partners agreed that Vision's products are certainly different, and I can say my initial impressions of their performance are very favorable. I can't wait to try the others out!

 

Boz, many thanks for the opportunity to demo your products, especially having to ship them to the other side of the world. I hope my feedback is helpful.

 

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Hi PF, thanks for the detailed update and as you can now see

the on course style and performance is quite interesting when

I am coming from such a different design head space.

 

The UV Yellow instore / indoor colour is something I have been

looking at, even though the in play fully charged UV colour is

super bright it is the indoor colour that sometimes has to make

the sale and the low charge green look can work against me.

 

To get an idea of the charging levels put Russell in the sun

or under a bright lamp for a while and then have a look in

a dark room,,,, he will surprise you.

 

Cheers,

Boz.

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Vision Ball Hints - No One - Ball Cleaning.

 

If you want to partially restore the finish of any one of my designs after a round please

use a scouring pad from the kitchen with a cream cleanser like Jif/Ajax to gentily remove the

fine marks/embedded dirt and soften up any shear marks that might have been visible this

is also the case with the white balls.

 

At the factory we tend to rotate balls after each 9 holes as that means the ball in play

is usually in very good condition and as such makes it easier to see.

 

You can then clean them properly after a round and put them back into play the next time

you are playing.

 

Cheers, Boz.

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I played the white X3 for 18 holes yesterday (yup, 1 ball!).

 

I have to admit I was a bit skeptical at first. Not that I didn't think it was a good ball, I just didn't really think it was going to be a good ball for me. This is I'm sure partly just arrogant snobbery on my part, having played the Callaway X-tour, i(x), and now i(z) for the past several years, mainly because of iron and greenside feel. So keep in mind as you read this that I believe I am one of the lower handicaps Oz hooked up, and I don't know that I'm really his target market. I am comparing this ball to a Callaway i(z), which is not its intended competition. However, it is what I play, its what I know, and as such, it is my comparison point.

 

The X3 looks good, I don't mind the glittery finish. I don't love it, but I don't mind it, it doesn't distract me. My initial test for a ball is to tap it on my teeth, weird yes, but tap a tour ball on your tooth, and then tap an NXT Tour, and you'll immediately see the difference. The X3 does NOT pass the "tooth test"! It is, in fact, a very "clicky" ball, its not a feel I look for, it is, in fact, a feel I tend to shy away from, being conditioned to associate "clickiness" with decreased iron and wedge performance.

 

I was determined to put all this out of my mind and just play the ball for 18 holes and really focus on how it performed. How it felt off the clubface, and most importantly, how it reacted. Could I work the ball? Distance off the driver, and most importantly, how did it come into the greens.

 

I'm going to rate on a 1-10 scale:

Driver Rating: 9 The ball has a different trajectory than I'm used to. It really seems to hit a point just a bit lower than I'm used to on the way up, but it seems to hang there longer. There's a couple heartbeats in there where you're watching the ball stay right on a line before it drops. Almost as if its being held there by the wind, but there was very little wind. Distance was right where I expected it to be, perhaps a bit further than my normal ball, and I really hit some good tee shots yesterday. I had to hit one big sweeping draw, and the ball reacted well, I thought I had overcooked it but the ball stayed in the fairway, so perhaps not as much spin as I'm used to, but it saved me on that shot!

 

Full Irons: 8 This is probably where I was most surprised and impressed with the X3. As I said, the ball is clicky, its a hard ball. Somehow, it does not feel or sound hard off a full struck iron! It feels fine, I don't know that I can quite go all the way and say it feels good, but it is surprisingly "not hard". The ball again does not launch as high as I'm used to, but distance is not effected, if anything I think I get a bit more distance out of the X3 than I'm used to. I found myself on the backs of a few greens yesterday, and had one ball that I was sure was short on a blind shot end up on the front of a green, so I'm pretty sure I was getting a little more yardage than I'm used to with the irons. The balls response on hitting the green was surprising to me too. I had thought this was where it was really going dissapoint, but this was not the case. The ball spins! It spins good, too. I hit a 130 9 iron and backed it up a good 4-5 feet, mostly though, it just stays put. It doesn't roll out, it checks, nicely. I can't say I would mind that day in and day out.

 

Greenside: 6 This is where I wasn't quite as impressed with this ball. Here, the clicky feel manifests itself, and the ball's reaction with the wedge is not what I'm looking for. I play a pretty creative wedge game, I carry 3 wedges, I like to spin the ball, I like to flop it, I expect a lot out of a ball around the greens. The X3 was fine with a lofted shot, and it was fine when I was looking for the ball to roll out. It was not very receptive to a low trajectory "one hop stop" shot. It likes to roll out. Its something I don't know if I could get used to. I'm going to take it to the practice green and give it a more fair workout, but I hit some pretty good chips and pitches yesterday and didn't q get what I look for. However, it has to be noted that I'm not impressed with NXT Tours, Bridgestone e-whatever, Cally X-Hots, etc. The Vision X3 was certainly no worse than the balls in its target market.

 

Putting: I putt with an STX Putter, all balls putt fine! However, it did seem a little quicker off the face than I'm used to, but it held the line well and I didn't really notice it blowing by the hole. I had 1 3 putt yesterday and made a 15 and a 25 footer, it was a decent putting round for where I was at on the greens.

 

Summary: I was all in all pleasantly surprised by the X3. It has a much better feel than I expected, it performs very well with the driver and full irons. Its distance is very good, while still allowing decent workability. Around the greens was not a disappointment, because I don't feel its fair to measure this ball against the very best balls on the market that I purchase almost exclusively for thier greenside response, which is not what the X3 is trying to do.

 

Conclusion: I would play this ball on occasion. I'm going to play the X3 Optical Yellow ball this weekend in a tournament, not only to review, but by choice. I would choose the X3 for early season play before my game is dialed in as a go to ball, I think I like it better than all the other

 

Thanks Boz for the opportunity to test it, I'll be reviewing your other balls as I break them out and give them a whirl!

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Adams XTD Super Hybrid 15* - Stock Fubuki S
Adams DHY 21* - Stock Matrix Ozik White Tie S
Mizuno MP58 4-8 Irons - Fujikura MCI 100 S
SCOR 42,46,50,54,58* - SCOR/KBS Genius S
STX Robert Ingman Envision TR 35", Iomic grip

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My wife went through all of the stuff in the package, has claimed the turqoise hat, one of the pinkys (I wouldnt let her have both) and both of the phantom balls. If the glove fit her, she would have grabbed that too. She recently wore out her last glove and we went shopping today for new gloves for her. Couldnt find one that really fit. all this to ask...Any womens gloves?

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Hey Guys,

 

These reviews are spot on!

 

I can't wait to try them out.....was out last night for a bucket, then went to the practice green with the X3 Yellow & Russell.....after about 5 minutes (not even enough time to gauge anything) it started raining....so I was done.

 

My plan is to use all on the practice green before having a go on the course.

 

I'm playing a different course this Saturday, one I haven't played in a year, so i probably won't break them out. I want to try them out on my regular course, as I now the distances and layout well. That will be a better test of each balls performance.....maybe Sunday.

Driver: Tour Edge Exotics EXS w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft BACKUP DRIVER: Cobra F8 w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft  Fairways:  Cobra King F8 3W(14.5*) & 5W(18.5*) w/Mitsubishi ck Blue regular shaft Hybrids: Tour Edge CBX 119 4H(22*)  with Project X Evenflo regular shaft Irons: Wilson Staff D7 5 - PW w/Recoil 460 regular shafts Wedges: Wilson D7 GW(50*) & SW(54*) w/Recoil 460 regular shafts; Cleveland RTX Zipcore(58*) w/True Temper Spinner Wedge steel shaft  Putter: 33" Slotline SSi 693 mid mallet Bag: Cobra Ultralite Cart Bag(Peacoat Blue).

 

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On tuesday I played 18 holes in total and complete pouring rain. I played the front nine rotating between my 4 Taylor Made Targa Tour gloves, then played THE ENTIRE BACK NINE with the Vision Golf glove. It lasted 9 holes in pouring rain! The towel worked great too.

 

The only golf ball I tried out was the prototype sample ball. First of all all of the balls are soft off the putter face. Partially because I was putting with a Scotty, but part of it has to be the ball. That said, the prototype ball was far and away the best. The feel was comparable to the Penta, as was short game spin. I had no problem getting it to stop where I wanted. I only played it a few times, a few chips, a 5 iron tee shot on a par 5, a bunker shot, and distance was also up to par. Out of the bunker it stopped just where I would have expected it too. So basically, I like the proto ball.

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Hi Guys, good info to date and it is good to see you are taking

an approach to the project in line with how my local TP Team

approach things wich is really helpful.

 

Hey TYK, ok good resulsts and yes I am not over reaching with

my designs as I am using various FlexiGel (Ionomer) blends for

my cover stock and they will never have that rubbery to touch

feel about them but that is what I need for those balls.

 

What I did include with the Oz shipped packs is an early

Prototype version of my TT Durathane covered Tour Vision

ball, this ball starts to address the final key in allowing

for a wider range of recovery shot types by the better player

but as you have already seen my MultiLayer structure is right

on the money without being just like something else out there

in the market.

 

Also please note guys that I have designed the Gel V's balls

to have a drop and release in a CONTROLLED manner performance,

as the players that should be using these designs cannot put

spin on their shots in a consistent manner so I am saying dont

throw it at the pin but get used to allowing the ball to land

a bit short of the pin and roll up.

 

MORE PLAYERS HOLE OUT CHIP SHOTS WHEN THEY ROLL THE BALL AT

THE HOLE THAN THOSE LOOKING TO THROW IT AT THE HOLE WITH A

HARD HIGH SPIN SHOT. Watch the tour and you will find they

are not chipping in on a regular basis but the Old Pro's

that I grew up caddying for used to try and hole every chip.

 

The trajectory I have looked to create is based on the fact

most days have a bit of wind around in Oz so I wanted a very

stable flight model for my designs.

 

Hi Hen, No ladies yet but yes they are in the works.

 

Hi Jamo, Good info as that is what I was looking to achieve

with materials that we used. If it's going to be synthetic

I wanted it to bring a different set of advanced performance

capabilies to the table in comparison to a quality leather

glove.

 

Chers, Boz

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You beg an interesting question Boz, which is how much of how we play is based on what our equipment is capable of doing? I would agree with you that I make more chips when I get them rolling out towards the hole, and I do play this type of shot with some frequency. However, from a certain distance, say more than 15' off the green, I believe I get closer with a spinning check shot than I can with a roll out. I probably don't make as many, but I probably one putt more of them! And I hope everyone realizes that a full review and opinion cannot be formed on one round of golf, either. I plan on playing all these balls until they're a scuffed mess, and then I plan on ordering some more from you and actually paying for them! ;)

 

I think there is a definitely a potential market here in the US for Vision Golf and I'm pulling for your success! I can't wait to see what those with the prototype think of it!

Ping I20 8.5* - Aldila NV 65g S
Adams XTD Super Hybrid 15* - Stock Fubuki S
Adams DHY 21* - Stock Matrix Ozik White Tie S
Mizuno MP58 4-8 Irons - Fujikura MCI 100 S
SCOR 42,46,50,54,58* - SCOR/KBS Genius S
STX Robert Ingman Envision TR 35", Iomic grip

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Thanks Tyk,

 

I will endevour to get some extra Proto's to the

first USA sourced TP's in the near future as I believe the

info I can draw down from the group will be a great guide

to my future design work. :D

 

Cheers, Boz.

 

PS The tooth test is used all around the world, so I know

being an unknown quantity to many players that this is a

test that I need to address with the Tour Vision. ;)

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Is it really?! I get all kind of weird looks because the first thing I do when someone gives me a new type of golf ball is put it in my mouth!And here I thought I'd invented it!

 

If you can design a radical yellow ball that equals the X3 on full shots, spins like a Cally i(z) with the wedge,and passes the tooth test I pledge here and now to spend hundreds of dollars a year with Vision Golf on schwag, gloves, and golf balls!

Ping I20 8.5* - Aldila NV 65g S
Adams XTD Super Hybrid 15* - Stock Fubuki S
Adams DHY 21* - Stock Matrix Ozik White Tie S
Mizuno MP58 4-8 Irons - Fujikura MCI 100 S
SCOR 42,46,50,54,58* - SCOR/KBS Genius S
STX Robert Ingman Envision TR 35", Iomic grip

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Is it really?! I get all kind of weird looks because the first thing I do when someone gives me a new type of golf ball is put it in my mouth!And here I thought I'd invented it!

 

I find that a good test of feel is just to dribble the ball off of a wedge a few times. With Top Flites you can really hear the click feel and with tour balls they feel obviously softer.

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Do they have to taste any flavour in particular? ;)

LOL. How about scented balls? I am also a bowler and Storm has came out with balls that are scented to "help get you in your think zone". I have one of their balls with a cinnamon scent and I keep it in the garage, you can smell it as soon as you walk out the back door. I guess scented grips would be better, since the ball doesn't (or shouldn't) get close to your face.

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I was born and raised in Bolton, Lancashire, joined the Army when I was 17 in 1969 and frankly rarely went home. Been all over courtesy of HM and most places i liked, even the Falklands and Belfast. I really like Brisbane and would like to go back to visit and play golf. Been in Canada this past 21+ years, lived in Medicine Hat and experienced the hottest summer and coldest winter on record and escaped to Vancouver, been here since but still travelled a lot. Really impressed with the look of the Boz golf balls and looking forward to trying them out. I will be chipping and pitching a good bit with them first, want to get a feel before I lose the first one off the tee. These things look so good they should have GPS trackers built in.

My father was a driver for a Bradford Glass company & I travelled a lot of miles with him through Yorkshire & Lancashire. I have been to Bolton several times.( Notthat i remember much.) I was 10 years old when I left England

If you are ever heading for Brisbane let me know. If I cannot get there ,I can hook you up with a few guys to play golf with. Some of them even Play Vision balls. I have tried to keep some of the early Balls that Boz Have a photo somewhere that I will post shortly.

You guys are now finding out what we in OZ already Know.

Boz supplies a class a product & his service is second to none. Enjoy the Vision pack. My ball of choice is the white X3. I love it & tend to play much better with it now that I have dialled in the performance characteristics of it.

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As I promised Speszel Here are a couple of pics.

This is my 4ball partner with Vision HiViz shirt & our golf Buggies complete with stickers.

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This is my collection of never to be used Vision balls Added to the Russell ball in my Avatar

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From Right to left top row. Pinkie,Gel-V,A Prototype UV ball. ( That really Glows in the dark.),Blue Gel, Pink drop Bear.

Second Row UVX3, Early Blue ball, X3, My ball of Choice.A sample prototype, & the UV yellow ball.

Plus the Russell Ball that now has pride of place in the center.

For anyone that has not Read the Russell ball thread I recommend that you follow the link Supplied By Pegasus & read it.

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Hey Pom, nice images. :D

I don't suppose we should tell the guys about the earlier collectable prototypes

that didn't do to well in the Willow's G.C.> swimming trials? ;)

Talk more later, Boz.

 

PS here is an early UV promo shot.

 

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