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In this video at MGS HQ, Adam states that black putter shafts outperform steel shafts. Is there a link to this study, or thread? I cannot find it.

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v18_i_SByu0 Right around the 16:00 mark.

 

Very interested in the EVNRoll putters which prompted this search.

 

Thank you in advance for steering me in the right direction.

 

Jeff

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I don't think it's ever been an actual article or MGS labs.  Just something mentioned in that video.

 

It would make a great MGS labs test though!

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We have not published an article on this yet.  

 

Basically how this came about was GolfSpy_Dave had completed some putter testing and I was having him look deeper in to some of the data he collected.  Kind of a discovery process we like to do after we complete our tests.  There is almost always some amazing things we learn from this type of research.  Sometimes we apply it to our knowledge base and sometimes it is just an interesting tidbit that need more exploration.

 

This is one of those times.  Right now it is something both Dave has seen and we have seen as well.  But until we do a bigger study we will not know for sure.

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Definitely interested in hearing if black shafts make you putt better. What about black irons shafts, can I hit better iron shot with black shafts I definitely need help with that.

 

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And to think yesterday, I almost pulled the trigger on black shafts for my irons,

Decided not too at the last min. Damn it!

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If anyone's interested, Here's a link to a DIY black putter shafting option from GolfSpyMeyer

 

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/17997-diy-black-putter-shaft-or-other-colors/page-1

 

 

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i love the way they look. i saw an all black putter with a black shaft and black grip on ebay last night (dont remember what brand), and the thing just looked so cool

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In this video at MGS HQ, Adam states that black putter shafts outperform steel shafts. Is there a link to this study, or thread? I cannot find it.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v18_i_SByu0 Right around the 16:00 mark.

Very interested in the EVNRoll putters which prompted this search.

Thank you in advance for steering me in the right direction.

Jeff

Jeff, where are you located? I see you are in upstate SC, well you can't get to much farther upstate than I am. I am located in Fort Mill. I play the majority of my golf at Springfield golf club.

 

I looked for a welcoming post in the introduce yourself thread but didn't see anything so I thought I would ask here, and welcome to the forum.

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Maybe it is time to dust off the murdered out TP Mills that my wife got for me....

 

 

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Maybe it is time to dust off the murdered out TP Mills that my wife got for me....

 

 

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Ooooo, would love to see pictures of that

 

 

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Irons:   :srixon-small: z585 4i - 6i,  z785 7i-PW, Nippon Modus 120X

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX  50.11, 55.11, 60.10  TT DG S400 Black

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We have not published an article on this yet.  

 

Basically how this came about was GolfSpy_Dave had completed some putter testing and I was having him look deeper in to some of the data he collected.  Kind of a discovery process we like to do after we complete our tests.  There is almost always some amazing things we learn from this type of research.  Sometimes we apply it to our knowledge base and sometimes it is just an interesting tidbit that need more exploration.

 

This is one of those times.  Right now it is something both Dave has seen and we have seen as well.  But until we do a bigger study we will not know for sure.

Seems like this could tie in nicely with the data Ping found in the eye tracking article.  A black shaft maybe doesn't pull your eyes away from where they should be focused.  Similar to why they moved their shaft labels.

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Ooooo, would love to see pictures of that

 

 

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I will take a few when I get home tonight.  It is a proto for a new finish David was working on and have 1 of the 2 that were done. It is a great stick and almost too pretty to take out on the course.  Almost.

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I just put a black shaft on my Cleveland 2135 8.0 with a SuperStroker 2.0 XL. Looks great.

 

 

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I just put a black shaft on my Cleveland 2135 8.0 with a SuperStroker 2.0 XL. Looks great.

 

 

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A few pics of my TP Mills that were requested. Apologies for the crappy pics all I have is my phone at the moment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And being a large gentleman and having a putter named Fatso is kind of appropriate. Funny part is my wife almost sent it back to David when she saw the cavity stamping figuring it would hurt my feelings.

 

 

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It's always good to start out a putter with a clean slate. I've found having a simple flat black putter shaft with no labels or distractions can improve your putting. It helps kee you eye focused more on the putter head or your spot.

 

FST makes a really good Flat Black .370 putter shaft I like to use in all my putters (no double bends). It's only $13 from Golfworks so it's relatively cheap and it has a really good feel to it. If you're playing Scotty's you'll need to get one from somewhere like Putter lounge since Cameron takes a .355 shaft.

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I think I'm going to order that putter head and give it a roll. Looks interesting.

The head is fantastic. I'm actually using the shaft from Golfworks that you mentioned and it looks great but it has given the putter a different feel than the stock shaft. It seems to be firmer to me.

 

 

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I have the 2135 1.0 and have been wanting to do this as well. What size shaft do I need? I can't seem to find the tip diameter.

 

 

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I have the 2135 1.0 and have been wanting to do this as well. What size shaft do I need? I can't seem to find the tip diameter.

 

I just called Cleveland to get the diameter, but it is a .370 on the 1.0 as well as the 8.0. It looks great but it will change the feel. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I'm gonna take it out on Friday for the first time on the real greens and see how I do.

 

 

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Did you reshaft it yourself? I'm assuming it's just a matter of heating up, pulling the head, and inserting the new one with adhesive?

 

I do my own grips, just never had the chance to do a shaft.

 

 

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The head is fantastic. I'm actually using the shaft from Golfworks that you mentioned and it looks great but it has given the putter a different feel than the stock shaft. It seems to be firmer to me.

 

 

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FST plays a touch firm till you hit the 360g head mark then they feel perfect. I play at 365g and that's how I ended up with them. Used to play True Temper stepless.

 

 

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FST plays a touch firm till you hit the 360g head mark then they feel perfect. I play at 365g and that's how I ended up with them. Used to play True Temper stepless.

 

 

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Well the head I'm using now comes in at 405g. Too heavy? It's like hitting a completely different putter.

 

 

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Did you reshaft it yourself? I'm assuming it's just a matter of heating up, pulling the head, and inserting the new one with adhesive?

 

I do my own grips, just never had the chance to do a shaft.

 

 

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Nah I took it to the PGA Superstore and they did it for $15. I brought the shaft with me. I'm not skilled enough nor trust myself working on my own stuff. I wish I was.

 

 

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The head is fantastic. I'm actually using the shaft from Golfworks that you mentioned and it looks great but it has given the putter a different feel than the stock shaft. It seems to be firmer to me.

 

 

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That Cleveland 8.0 looks awesome. Like a fatter blade myself. Do you use the counterweight in the grip or just a super heavy head?

 

 

 

 

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Fairway  :cobra-small: F9 15.5° Aldila Rogue White 80X

Hybrid:  :cobra-small: King F7 18° KBS Tour PROTO Hybrid 95 S+

Irons:   :srixon-small: z585 4i - 6i,  z785 7i-PW, Nippon Modus 120X

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX  50.11, 55.11, 60.10  TT DG S400 Black

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That Cleveland 8.0 looks awesome. Like a fatter blade myself. Do you use the counterweight in the grip or just a super heavy head?

 

 

 

 

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I didn't put the weight in the grip just yet. The head is quite heavy and I'm gonna see how I do without the weight.

 

 

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:nike-small: VR Pro Combo 4-PW (Project X PXI 6.5)

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Gonna keep the shaft. Played this morning and putted great.

 

 

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:nike-small: VR Pro Combo 4-PW (Project X PXI 6.5)

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