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120+MPH Swing Speed (Driver shaft recommendations)

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I do not claim to be an equipment guru, so i need a little help. 

 

Here are the shafts iv researched but open to suggestions.

 

Hzrdus Black 6.5 75g

Tour AD GP 7x

Kuro Cage Dual Core XT

Tensei White Pro TX

Matrix Black Tie 70m4

 

Iv hit the Hzrdus, have yet to hit the others... Supposedly one of the fitters in the area is supposed to have access to "all" Mitsubishi shafts at the beginning of Feb. So hopefully hell have the dual core and tensei. 

 

Reference 

917d3 w/ Diamana 70x (first several shots were with 3w)

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Black tie in the M1 head

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Epic SZ w/ 70x whiteboard

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPJHoKfB2o_/?taken-by=wphelps

 

Last few years my miss has been a snap hook, but i feel like we can attribute that to the shaft. i was playing the Oban Devotion XX. 

 

The biggest thing for me is finding something i can play with that is consistent from a loading standpoint whether im swinging at 75% or 95%. The most stable shaft iv hit thus far has been the Black Tie, surprisingly. 

 

Suggestions welcome. 

 

 

Goal:

Low launch, low spin

 

11-13*/1800-2100rpm

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To my mind, the better results seem to come from using a slightly heavier shaft looking at the numbers. 

This will definitely help with consistency from a loading standpoint and tempo.

Notice the big difference between the Whiteboard and the Black Tie in terms of ballflight - the Diamana gives a lot higher launch and a steep descent angle, robbing you of overall distance  - but the dispersion is good.

The Black Tie on the other hand gives a good lower trajectory and good down range descent angle giving good carry and roll - but the right dispersion let lets it down, suggesting that the weight is good but the profile is slightly too stiff. Maybe try the Whiteboard in heavier weight therefore?

 

The TourAD GP will only increase launch and spin at the 7X spec - Hzdus would be better. Not much experience of the Tensei or the Kuro Cage dual core, but the specs look slightly softer overall than the Diamana. 

My first option would be get fitted for shaft weight first to see what makes you most comfortable swinging, then make a choice from then. My hunch says D+ Limited 80x and a bit of fine tuning with the M1 loft and weight.

 

Get back to us with the results.

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You have already named most of the stuff I would point you in the direction of. I'm a big fan of my 80x Ahina which is a similar profile to the whiteboard. Just another weight class up. 

Oban Kiyoshi Black 75 is in that same class as well. Speeder 7.2 TS is nice.

 

I'll probably think of some more soon enough.

Also a fitter may pop in and suggest something but it seems to me like you may be eyeing a little too low of spin. I think most of "attainable" ideal numbers are in the 12-14* launch range with 2200-2400 spin rates. At least if you want something you can keep in the fairway. 

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great numbers Im amazed at how far Bryson Desanbeau (spelling) hit his tee ball being single plane. Im a single plane guy and Im 6'5" 220 and only hit it 250ish but in play 85-90% of the time.

 

homer kelly golfing machine force leverage etc physics equation is all it is - Love this game!!

 

 

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Try rogue silver 125 as well. I would agree to stay with the heavy weight on the shaft. You're probably looking at tipping a lot of these an 1" as well depending on how firm you want the tip to feel.

 

 

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You have already named most of the stuff I would point you in the direction of. I'm a big fan of my 80x Ahina which is a similar profile to the whiteboard. Just another weight class up. 

Oban Kiyoshi Black 75 is in that same class as well. Speeder 7.2 TS is nice.

 

I'll probably think of some more soon enough.

Also a fitter may pop in and suggest something but it seems to me like you may be eyeing a little too low of spin. I think most of "attainable" ideal numbers are in the 12-14* launch range with 2200-2400 spin rates. At least if you want something you can keep in the fairway. 

 

+1 for the Fujikura Motore Speeder 7.2 tour spec. I was told by OBAN and their fitter i worked with that the equivalent would be a Kiyoshi Black 65 05 with the weight being 72g and the 75 being 83g.

 

I am using a Kuro Kage Silver TINI 70x, but it is tipped 1" only because it was free from TMAG vs the Speeder 7.2

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To my mind, the better results seem to come from using a slightly heavier shaft looking at the numbers. 

This will definitely help with consistency from a loading standpoint and tempo.

Notice the big difference between the Whiteboard and the Black Tie in terms of ballflight - the Diamana gives a lot higher launch and a steep descent angle, robbing you of overall distance  - but the dispersion is good.

The Black Tie on the other hand gives a good lower trajectory and good down range descent angle giving good carry and roll - but the right dispersion let lets it down, suggesting that the weight is good but the profile is slightly too stiff. Maybe try the Whiteboard in heavier weight therefore?

 

The TourAD GP will only increase launch and spin at the 7X spec - Hzdus would be better. Not much experience of the Tensei or the Kuro Cage dual core, but the specs look slightly softer overall than the Diamana. 

My first option would be get fitted for shaft weight first to see what makes you most comfortable swinging, then make a choice from then. My hunch says D+ Limited 80x and a bit of fine tuning with the M1 loft and weight.

 

Get back to us with the results.

 

Agreed on right dispersion with the m1, we were adjusting the weights as we went. The last several swings were the final result (weight back, neutral on the fade/draw)

 

Tour AD hard to find but will be going to golf galaxy and hitting an employees 6s GP, just to get an idea on feel. 

 

Everything that iv read, it seems like the Tensei may be the best bet. Ill look around for 80x in a diamana  

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Try rogue silver 125 as well. I would agree to stay with the heavy weight on the shaft. You're probably looking at tipping a lot of these an 1" as well depending on how firm you want the tip to feel.

 

 

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What exactly does tipping mean? pardon my ignorance lol What does that entail and what does it actually do?

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What exactly does tipping mean? pardon my ignorance lol What does that entail and what does it actually do?

Tipping makes the bottom of the club more stable. Guys that have a lot of speed obviously flex the shaft more. It makes the staff play stiffer overall without changing the shaft weight. Just to give you an idea, I swing between 115-121 and I have a Rogue Silver 70X tipped an inch. Here's a quick explanation and a couple of examples from Fujikura http://www.fujikuragolf.com/tip-trimming-suggestions/

 

 

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Tipping makes the bottom of the club more stable. Guys that have a lot of speed obviously flex the shaft more. It makes the staff play stiffer overall without changing the shaft weight. Just to give you an idea, I swing between 115-121 and I have a Rogue Silver 70X tipped an inch. Here's a quick explanation and a couple of examples from Fujikura http://www.fujikuragolf.com/tip-trimming-suggestions/

 

 

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 Makes sense

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Tipping makes the bottom of the club more stable. Guys that have a lot of speed obviously flex the shaft more. It makes the staff play stiffer overall without changing the shaft weight. Just to give you an idea, I swing between 115-121 and I have a Rogue Silver 70X tipped an inch. Here's a quick explanation and a couple of examples from Fujikura http://www.fujikuragolf.com/tip-trimming-suggestions/

 

 

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Well, it's not that simple actually. I've posted this topic to help explain why.

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/18091-setting-the-record-straight-on-tipping/

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Hit the Tour AD GP today. Crossing off list, too spinny

All the tour AD models have spun too much for me. At least all that I've tried.

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I have a guy that has the hook up on tour issue Tensei White/orange and KKDC XT...but is going to cost some $$$$$ 

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I have a guy that has the hook up on tour issue Tensei White/orange and KKDC XT...but is going to cost some $$$$$

That's a bad "hook up"

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That's a bad "hook up"

 

Not the best but better than nothing i suppose. It will counter balance the two actual hook ups i do have lol

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ACCRA  FX470 the TZx line 400 series.

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Try to Aldila Rogue 125MSI 75 TX i/o and then thank me later. We have near identical swing speed and ball speed and this shaft has been amazing for me. You can get "blemished" shafts on ebay fromI guy named ShirtDaddy I believe. He works for Aldila and sells their paint blemished shafts.

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