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It seems like 2017 is going to be the year BOA finally takes off in the US market.  They have been very prominent overseas in golf for a years, but prior to this season it's only been a few models from FJ and Adidas in the US.

 

Now we have UA, ECCO, FJ, Adidas, & Nike with BOA and Puma with Disc.  The cost adder seems to range from $20 - $50.

 

I got my first pair of shoes with BOA last season.  Since then I've added 2 more and it would take a lot for me to purchase another pair of shoes without it.  The ease of getting your shoes on and off plus the ability to dial in the perfect snug-ness is a no brainer for me.

 

It's kind of one of those "you don't know you need it until you try it" ideas.  A lot of people seem to ask why would I pay more for the same shoe?  But once you try it it's hard to imagine having to tie my laces again.

 

So BOA/Disc, Yay or Nay?  Also what's your cost adder threshold?  At $20 I'm buying BOA, at $50 I'm looking at a different model shoe.

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I have never tried anything w/ BOA.....my question is, how durable is it?  like, if it breaks are you throwing a $200 pair of shoes in the trash because you can't just replace the laces?  The 'strings' that it uses look pretty thin.   They seem like a great idea though, I"m sure would be comfortable

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I have never tried anything w/ BOA.....my question is, how durable is it?  like, if it breaks are you throwing a $200 pair of shoes in the trash because you can't just replace the laces?  The 'strings' that it uses look pretty thin.   They seem like a great idea though, I"m sure would be comfortable

Pound for pound that lace is stronger than tank armor.  BOA also guarantee's the lace and dial for life.  Good info on the BOA website here.

 

Why BOA?

 

BOA FAQ's

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Pound for pound that lace is stronger than tank armor.  BOA also guarantee's the lace and dial for life.  Good info on the BOA website here.

 

Why BOA?

 

BOA FAQ's

 

Very nice, thanks for that......I don't know that I would go out of my way to get a pair with them, but certainly wouldn't shy away from it...thanks for the info

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Alright, I'll be the odd man here. 

I have used the BOA enclosures off and on for years on bike cleats and on some run shoes.

I love the idea. 

I hate the implementation. 

But why!??!?!

The answer is both simple, and complex. The simple version is, uneven pressure.  The more complex answer is that one of the core features of the BOA system, is the very same feature that makes them unlivable after a while. The steel cable and disc do not allow any stretch or give, and require manual adjustments as your feet swell during activity. 

I know, that is the idea right? In theory, it sounds great, but every foot swells during activity. If you are playing golf, your feet will swell as much as a .25 of a size during a typical round.  With the BOA, that means you are either releasing and resetting them, or, restricting blood flow (leading to long term discomfort). 

Interestingly, even traditional laces have this problem, and it is one of the reasons so many shoes use such short lace patterns. 

There are options, and you'll find that many runners swear by them. I'm one of them. Yankz and Lock-Laces.  Both operate on the same continuous lace idea behind BOA. Instead of the disc, they use a pull and pressure lock. What is different, is that instead of a static lace like fiber, or even the BOA steel laces, they use elastic, bungie style laces that provide a strong enclosure, while still allowing enough give to allow the foot to swell, without creating too much compression. 

I use them in almost all of my shoes these days, but oddly enough, on my cycling shoes, I've gone back to velcro and ratchet enclosures for most of my riding, and only use the BOA's on my short day shoes (under 2 hours). 

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Yay.

 

I love BOA, but only have one pair with it.  Its been hard to find without spending more than I care to for a pair of shoes.

 

Hopefully as it becomes more popular it will be on shoes not at the very top end of the spectrum.

 

As to durability, the pair I have (and have had them for 4 years) have held up great.  I walk a lot and used them for a year and a half that way.  After they decided to leak, I started using them as practice only shoes.  They have a lot of steps and swings on them.  They are about done now, but the BOA system is still perfectly operational.  I think the strings are a vinyl wrapped cable.  

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I'm not sure how I feel about it. I like the idea of being able to lock your feet in but i just don't trust it enough to stay tight enough while playing.

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Alright, I'll be the odd man here. 

 

I have used the BOA enclosures off and on for years on bike cleats and on some run shoes.

 

I love the idea. 

 

I hate the implementation. 

 

But why!??!?!

 

The answer is both simple, and complex. The simple version is, uneven pressure.  The more complex answer is that one of the core features of the BOA system, is the very same feature that makes them unlivable after a while. The steel cable and disc do not allow any stretch or give, and require manual adjustments as your feet swell during activity. 

 

I know, that is the idea right? In theory, it sounds great, but every foot swells during activity. If you are playing golf, your feet will swell as much as a .25 of a size during a typical round.  With the BOA, that means you are either releasing and resetting them, or, restricting blood flow (leading to long term discomfort). 

 

Interestingly, even traditional laces have this problem, and it is one of the reasons so many shoes use such short lace patterns. 

 

There are options, and you'll find that many runners swear by them. I'm one of them. Yankz and Lock-Laces.  Both operate on the same continuous lace idea behind BOA. Instead of the disc, they use a pull and pressure lock. What is different, is that instead of a static lace like fiber, or even the BOA steel laces, they use elastic, bungie style laces that provide a strong enclosure, while still allowing enough give to allow the foot to swell, without creating too much compression. 

 

I use them in almost all of my shoes these days, but oddly enough, on my cycling shoes, I've gone back to velcro and ratchet enclosures for most of my riding, and only use the BOA's on my short day shoes (under 2 hours). 

This is one of the best responses to a nay for BOA I've seen.  Hard to argue with too, I do find myself readjusting the tightness during rounds.  One thing I like though is how easy it is to do that.  Only takes a couple seconds and I can do it one handed.  I can easily see how in other sports like running or cycling that would be much harder to do.

 

I do also have some lock laces.  I've only used them in normal tennis shoes for everyday wear so far, but I really like them.  I have an extra pair in blue I bought to try in golf shoes but just haven't had the urge to install them since getting BOA's.

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I'm not sure how I feel about it. I like the idea of being able to lock your feet in but i just don't trust it enough to stay tight enough while playing.

I feel like there is a better chance of your shoes coming untied than there is the BOA loosening.  Plus if it does just click it back tight, quicker and easier than tying shoes.

 

Also Nike has some with BOA so now maybe you'll be interested :)

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I feel like there is a better chance of your shoes coming untied than there is the BOA loosening.  Plus if it does just click it back tight, quicker and easier than tying shoes.

 

Also Nike has some with BOA so now maybe you'll be interested :)

 

I saw them and I'm still not sold yet. Maybe I just enjoy tieing my shoes lol 

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I'm a tie'r of the shoe too. But with one simple modification..... wax shoe laces. If only the shoe mfg's would return to wax laces everything would be all right. Personally I always replace the "fashion" cotton laces with waxed laces. Tie um and forget um. All day long.

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I saw them and I'm still not sold yet. Maybe I just enjoy tieing my shoes lol

This is absolutely false. You don't even untie your shoes. You slip them on ;);)

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I just got a bargain on a pair and thus far, they seem pretty convenient and comfortable. I never really have problems with laces either, but as someone who has grown used to slip on golf shoes for the range, these are a good compromise and seem to ensure a stable fit throughout the round.

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I've never tried them, but I prefer the look of tied shoe laces. I might give them a try in the future after I go through my stash of shoes I have sitting on my shelf.

 

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Never tried them but have always liked the concept of them with a secure fit. When we played hockey (years ago) we put the skates on (Tacks with kangaroo leather inside) and soaked them and let them form more to our feet for a better fit. I could see positive results from them.

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Yankz and Lock-Laces.  Both operate on the same continuous lace idea behind BOA. Instead of the disc, they use a pull and pressure lock. What is different, is that instead of a static lace like fiber, or even the BOA steel laces, they use elastic, bungie style laces that provide a strong enclosure, while still allowing enough give to allow the foot to swell, without creating too much compression. 

 

@dru_ Just went to Amazon and the ratings for the Lock-Laces are really really good. I think I'm going to buy a pair of red ones for my black Trues. Thanks for mentioning them.

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I actually just bought my first pair yesterday. FJ Freestyle. So far they are amazingly comfortable and super easy to get on and off. Golf galaxy has last year colors on sale for $53. So it was a steal. I'm can't believe that it took me this long to buy a pair with BOA and probably will never have a tie pair again.

 

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I have a pair of shoes with the BOA and they are good shoes and it's better than tying the laces several times a round as they loosen up.
 
That being said, I much prefer the lock laces as several other people have mentioned here. Originally I bought them for my everyday sneakers as I am lazy and like to slip my shoes on and off without having to tie them. That's right, I am that lazy!
 
After buying a couple of sets for my every day shoes I fell in love with them. I now have them on every pair of shoes I own with the exception of my dress shoes, and if I could get away with it I would have them on those too.
 
Despite the fact that it makes it super easy for me to get my shoes on and off, the best feature in my opinion is that they are tight enough to stay on my foot and never allow my foot to shift in the shoe, but not so tight that they dig in or hurt in any way.
 
They are elastic of course so they will basically adjust to your foot and shoe in real time.
 
I find myself re tightening them about once a month on my every day shoes and once or twice during the life of my golf shoes.
 
I have been using them for almost two years and have had them on 4 pairs of golf shoes and probably 5 pairs of every day shoes.
 
I do prefer a sneaker style golf shoe so I have not had them on a pair of traditional golf shoes, but I have no doubt they would work fine.
 
As far as reliability goes, I haven't had one break yet, and they have all outlasted the shoes I've put them on so far.
 
I buy them from Amazon for about 8 bucks I think and I immediately replace the regular laces with these when I buy a new pair of shoes.
 
If you have any questions about them I can try to answer them, but for the price and performance I've gotten to this point I couldn't be happier with them.
 
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I have been wearing 3 pair for the past four years. Two FJ Contours and one FJ Sport. I never wear a pair two days in a row. So their longevity is a bit exaggerated. That said, they are very comfortable especially since I must wear an ankle brace on my left ankle. The BOA allows me to dial in different pressures to fit my brace.

 

 

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I am not opposed to the BOA system but a $20-$50 up charge seems a bit steep for laces.

 

 

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Never tried them but have always liked the concept of them with a secure fit. When we played hockey (years ago) we put the skates on (Tacks with kangaroo leather inside) and soaked them and let them form more to our feet for a better fit. I could see positive results from them.

We also used waxed laces...

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I've used BOA for 3 years now and I love em. I have them in a pair of footjoy DNA and they're very comfortable and stay tight really well. Kind of nice to be able to adjust the fit with one hand when I need to. Mine have the dial (I guess it would be dial?) on the heel which is kinda nice too, real clean no clutter sorta look. Don't know how much I'd like the look of having it on the side or the tongue.

 

 

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Got Lock Laces in the mail yesterday...colour me impressed.

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I have 3 pair of shoes with Lock Laces but I ordered Xpand laces last time and those are the ones I will order from now on.  I like the look much better than Lock Laces, just a cleaner look IMO.

 

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