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Hello Fellas, I have some 716 AP2s and I am playing with my local pro. He is 22 and I am 58. He notices I am hitting a 7 iron around 140. He looks at my shafts and says "DUDE!! These are WAY TOO STIFF for you!!!"

Do you guys have any suggestions for my irons? I swing a driver 85-90 mph and its a FITTED 917 D2 with Diamana blue shaft and its perfect for me. Do I go reg flex steel or go graphite?

Thanks in advance.

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It wouldn't be a recommendation thread if I didn't start off by saying it's best if you go get fit.  There is a lot more than what flex is stamped on to the shaft to get the best fit for you.  Material, weight, flex, length, bend profile are all going to play a big role in finding the best fit for you.

 

Outside of a proper fitting your next best bet would be to head to a local shop and try hitting irons with different shafts.  Try something light weight, heavy weight, graphite, steel, reg flex, stiff etc and see what jumps out at you.  It's better than picking a random shaft but I'd still recommend the fitting route.

 

For me to tell you go get a 70 gram graphite shaft in stiff flex, or a 95 gram steel shaft in reg flex would be the equivalent of throwing darts at a board.

 

It would also help if you could list what flex, weight and model shafts you play now.

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5w: :cleveland-small: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow

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Irons: :ping-small: 5i-UW G700 w/ X100 soft stepped once

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It wouldn't be a recommendation thread if I didn't start off by saying it's best if you go get fit. There is a lot more than what flex is stamped on to the shaft to get the best fit for you. Material, weight, flex, length, bend profile are all going to play a big role in finding the best fit for you.

 

Outside of a proper fitting your next best bet would be to head to a local shop and try hitting irons with different shafts. Try something light weight, heavy weight, graphite, steel, reg flex, stiff etc and see what jumps out at you. It's better than picking a random shaft but I'd still recommend the fitting route.

 

For me to tell you go get a 70 gram graphite shaft in stiff flex, or a 95 gram steel shaft in reg flex would be the equivalent of throwing darts at a board.

 

It would also help if you could list what flex, weight and model shafts you play now.

You play darts?

Lol 3 in the bed is good terminology

But I agree get fit or go demo different shafts.

Often wonder if my shafts are good for me. Then I pure one and the ball does what I actually want it to do. Then the shaft thought goes away

 

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... I have been playing graphite in my irons for a loooong time now. Started out with NV Tour shafts that were 130gms to replace my DGS300s because of tendinitis in my elbow and never switched back to steel. Long story short I went to 105gms, 100gms and then 85gms. The 85's were too light and I am playing Recoil 95's that I absolutely love. The point being you need to experiment with different weights to find what works best for you. 

... Obviously getting fitted is your best option. The Mizuno Shaft Analyzer will get you in the right ball park. 

Driver:   TaylorMade SIM2 Max ... Diamana Limited 60R
Fairway:  Cobra SZ 14.5* ... Atmos Blue TS 7S
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Diamana Limited 65R
               TaylorMade DHy 19* ... Diamana Limited 65R
Irons:    4-Pw Cobra King Tour MIM ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
Wedges:  Cobra Snakebite 50* ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
                 Mizuno T20 58* ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
Putter:  Cleveland Hunting Beach Soft 11S 33.5"
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What shafts are in your Irons now? Like everyone else said go get fit instead of throwing darts. Club head and swing type vary from player to player which also makes results vary. I normally play X100s and when I got fit for my TMBs I got better results with the AMT S300s hardstepped. Never would have considered that until we did the fitting.

 

 

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Hello Fellas, I have some 716 AP2s and I am playing with my local pro. He is 22 and I am 58. He notices I am hitting a 7 iron around 140. He looks at my shafts and says "DUDE!! These are WAY TOO STIFF for you!!!"

Do you guys have any suggestions for my irons? I swing a driver 85-90 mph and its a FITTED 917 D2 with Diamana blue shaft and its perfect for me. Do I go reg flex steel or go graphite?

Thanks in advance.

Go get fit

 

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Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

SCOR 52,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag.  Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. 

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all of the above.... and Aerotech steel-fiber.

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I have a similar swing speed, and I went to graphite many years ago.  It used to be that graphite in irons was a crap shoot, but today's graphite is really good with most manufacturers, whether it is lightweight or heavy.  The key is to get a shaft that fits your swing type.  Personally, I like a heavier graphite... 90-95 grams, but that's me.  It might not be best for you.  With our swing speed though I wouldn't go with stiff.  Regular flex should be great, but each manufacturer's flex is different so find a fitter to get you the best one for your swing.  Good luck!

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... Probably just semantics Kenny B, but I would not call 90-95 gm "heavy" graphite. For instance Recoil and Steelfiber have heavier shafts at 110 and 125 gms. I had a hard time going to 95 gms as I had been dropping from the original NV Tours at 130 to NV Pro at 105 to VS Proto 100 then VS Proto 85 which proved to be too light. I went to Steelfober 95's and they were too light and I wasn't fond of the feel. Next I tried Recoil 95's and they were still just a hair lighter than I prefer but I added some weight to the head and got them to D4 which did the trick and now I love them. I have 110's in my wedges and the 95s in my irons. 

Driver:   TaylorMade SIM2 Max ... Diamana Limited 60R
Fairway:  Cobra SZ 14.5* ... Atmos Blue TS 7S
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Diamana Limited 65R
               TaylorMade DHy 19* ... Diamana Limited 65R
Irons:    4-Pw Cobra King Tour MIM ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
Wedges:  Cobra Snakebite 50* ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
                 Mizuno T20 58* ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
Putter:  Cleveland Hunting Beach Soft 11S 33.5"
Ball:      TaylorMade TP5x (2021)

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when you go get fit........ :D

Some of the better shafts are:

UST Recoil - pick a model. 600 series, ES line, prototype and tourspx all have their merits

Steelfiber, I personally don't have a lot of experience with them. But I have yet to hear of a bad report on them

ACCRA - the Iseries although basic has a wide range from 40 g to 110 in 10 gram increments. Now there is a color and engraving for a more personal touch.

I just tested the 90 gram and my acceleration profile was impressive, for me that is.

Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg ACCRA tour Z GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed

Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers

Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce

Putter - 33" 3 deg loft 70 lie, lrg slight line slightly toe hang

Ball - truvis

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HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio.

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I went through a fitting about a week ago. Tried a lot of the graphite options and couldn't find one that worked. Surprisingly I was fit into a 90 gram xp steel.... I had KBS 110.

But....like everyone else said...spend the 100 bucks and let an expert tell you.

It will be well worth it.

 

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... Probably just semantics Kenny B, but I would not call 90-95 gm "heavy" graphite. For instance Recoil and Steelfiber have heavier shafts at 110 and 125 gms. I had a hard time going to 95 gms as I had been dropping from the original NV Tours at 130 to NV Pro at 105 to VS Proto 100 then VS Proto 85 which proved to be too light. I went to Steelfober 95's and they were too light and I wasn't fond of the feel. Next I tried Recoil 95's and they were still just a hair lighter than I prefer but I added some weight to the head and got them to D4 which did the trick and now I love them. I have 110's in my wedges and the 95s in my irons. 

Yeah, it depends on your frame of reference.  I was going by Paulgt3 swing speed which is similar to mine.  I think that eliminates most shafts that are over 95 grams, at least it does for me.  Most OEM iron stock shafts in regular flex are between 70 - 82 grams, which probably fits most people with that swing speed.  I tried the Steelfiber 95 and it felt good swinging it, but it just didn't give me the performance I needed.  I went with the UST ProForce 95.  It really shows that a fitter is needed to get a shaft that matches your swing characteristics.

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I am the same age as you, have the same swing speed and play the same irons.

 

I have the KBS Tour 90's in them in R flex. I was fit to them online and also compared them in an outdoor fitting as well to some others. recoil 95s were almost the same performance, but I went with the less expensive choice as I have had the Tour 90s before and loved them.

 

All that said, it's best to go get professionally fit as everyone has said.

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I've never been fit, but I really dig the Recoil shafts. I have Apex CF 16s w/ UST Recoil ES 760/780 in stiff flex. I tried a few different types before landing on the USTs. I'm in no way a stats/numbers geek. It was simply a matter of feel. They behave a lot like steel with all the dampening benefits of graphite. Perfect for an equipment geek, weekend hacker like me.

 

 

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Go get fit. Find a fitter that does titleist and go find out what is best. Then just get the shafts installed along with loft, lie and length. It will be cheaper and well worth the time and money investment.

 

 

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