STROK Golf - Fan Founded Balls

[BIG STU]

Interesting read from my fellow spies and Strok owners. Why not use a recycled brown package with padding. I for one don't need a another golf ball box laying around the house being used to hold something else. I for one love competition, more the merrier. Having so many companies that make balls, is only going to favor the consumer with giving them choices and who knows, this ball may outshine their ball...IMHO

 

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Good idea I know Mickey Dees uses recycled paper napkins and sandwich boxes. It may also be a cost reduction fact for the company.

[The Dansome]

Got it to the pitching green today to get a feel for these.

 

Some quick observations:

- different level of spin/release between the 3 and predictable

- the + version spins really well

- all 3 feel good and on the soft side

- didn't notice scuffing on light pitches and chips

- roll off putter well

 

 

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[Jmgonet45]

My name is Lucas Snyder one of the co-founders of STROK.

 

I want to thank everyone for participating in the conversation. Each of you raised some great points.

 

The takeaway for me is that we are not conveying the message correctly. STROK aspires to democratize the business of golf equipment. We will do that by engaging you in the development of future products. At STROK you can participate in everything. What products to bring to market, what performance metrics matter most, even the packaging, hell I'll put your name on if you want. We just want to make product that you will buy.

 

Yes we are selling balls right now. And yes our balls are being shipped to editors, and bloggers all around for testing. When the test results confirm that our ball performs as well as the balls mentioned and you can't believe it. If after that you can't bring yourself to buy the ball. Buy into the mission, the democratization of golf equipment. It is already happening in beauty products (www.volitionbeauty.com). This is going to change things.

 

We can change everything. Help us. You ever wonder why balls come in boxes that contain more boxes? Does not fit in you bag very well, certainly is not good for the planet. Think your idea for packaging could if nothing else save some trees? Let the group hear your idea. Are you an engineer who can design an innovative package? Speak up. Are you a manufacturer with excess capacity that can make what the brave visionary, thinks can result in positive change? Let us know.

 

What I am saying is we want you to join us in developing products you want to support. We want you to be passionate about the products and the brand. We plan to do that by crowd sourcing, ides, talents, skills and abilities.

 

Thanks again. Let's keep the conversation going.

 

 

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So sustainability is important to you guys, good to know. Depending on what's cheaper to manufacture, egg carton type material could be a big game changer with how pliable the material is. Vacuum sealed plastic sleeves could work too for minimalist packing materials while still preserving the integrity of the ball. 

[BIG STU]

Got it to the pitching green today to get a feel for these.

 

Some quick observations:

- different level of spin/release between the 3 and predictable

- the + version spins really well

- all 3 feel good and on the soft side

- didn't notice scuffing on light pitches and chips

- roll off putter well

 

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Were they clicky at all off the putter? Also were you using a insert putter or milled faced putter? Just curious because all 3 of those factors weigh heavily with me

[The Dansome]

Were they clicky at all off the putter? Also were you using a insert putter or milled faced putter? Just curious because all 3 of those factors weigh heavily with me

 

Not clicky at all

Copper face milled (firmish) Cleveland TFi

[GolfSpy Barbajo]

Not clicky at all

Copper face milled (firmish) Cleveland TFi

 

I'll second that - not clicky in the least. Used a milled face MacGregor Bobby Grace M5k

[BIG STU]

Good deal then answered my question. So they should not be clicky off the Rusty Scotty or one of my vintage putters. come to think of It I do not own a insert putter. The only real milled face putter I own is an YES! Dianna. Oops I did forget I do own a TM Rosa Daytona with that AGSI insert. 

[RenteriaAJ]

Always up for trying new balls but its going to be hard to compete with the big dogs.

 

 

[GolfSpy Barbajo]

Always up for trying new balls but its going to be hard to compete with the big dogs.

 

I think, like most of these direct-to-consumer companies, they're trying to carve out a little niche for themselves.  Jesse Ortiz once told me (how's that for name-dropping! HAA!) that the big golf companies are like the big beer companies - Anheuser-Busch, Coors, Miller - they're going to sell the most stuff by far - but there's plenty of room left for good micro-brews, provided they have a good product and a good story.  Companies like Vice and Snell have seemingly charged out a nice niche for themselves with a good product and a good story to tell. Others have tried and failed badly - how much of a niche do company's like STROK or Cut have to carve out for themselves to be successful? I'd guess it doesn't have to be very big.

[golfinnut]

Good point about the 7-iron swing speed - who the hell knows their 7-iron swing speed???

 

As for the logo - eye of the beholder, I guess. I like their logo for no other reason than it IS different and distinctive. Different strokes

 

 

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I think they need to do away with the swing speed method of choosing a ball. How many golfers know what the swing speed of their 7-iron is? Go with the more generic "How far do you hit your 7-iron?" fitting.

 

Also, how is both the 81 compression ball and the 90 compression ball both the perfect replacement for a Pro V1?

 

Aesthetics are another important factor and this ball doesn't have it. I think these ball companies need graphic designers that design for the ball, not for a webpage. A ball is round and a nice cursive, rounded or serif font on the ball looks classic and right. The modern, straight font of Strok is just not pleasing to the eye. To me, this is what sets Vice apart from all the other new ball companies. They have a logo that looks as timeless as Titleist. 3 Up, Snell, MG C4 and many others look cheap.

 

As for packaging, why not ship in a heavier box, but no inner box or sleeves, just the shipping box? It needs to ship in some sort of box, no need to add bags, plastic tubes or anything else.

 

 

 

 

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I would rather do the Dean Snell (and mine for that matter) approach to finding out what ball is for you.

 

Start from the green back to the tee.  See how it performs in the scoring area first ... don't worry about swing speed anymore. 

[Strokgolf]

Just a follow up on the packaging discussion. We developed these two option. We would love to hear from you on the design.

 

 

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And we are live on Kickstarter

Check out our campaign

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1393885060/strok-premium-golf-balls-under-30-dozen

 

 

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[Strokgolf]

 

The previous images did not post correctly. What our your thoughts on these?

 

 

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[null]

Pretty unique. Looks a little like a box of tissues, but definitely unique.

 

I'm a little confused by your kickstarter. You advertise as your ball being under $30, but your kickstarter pledges say the ball retails for $45

[PlaidJacket]

I'm of the opinion that the logo on the ball is too much. Too in your face so to speak. Too distracting. Personally I liked the way the Costco balls looked. I actually thought the logo was classy and understated. I also liked the tiny little numbers they used.

 

Since packaging is a huge deal for this Stroke ball I'd suggest that Snyder take a look at how MG Golf (MG Tour C4 ball) packages theirs. I've bought and played the Tour C4 a lot and personally find it to be an excellent ball. So much so that I can't tell a difference between the Tour C4 and a PV1 for instance. I can shoot a 75 with either and in any conditions. The MG ball comes packaged in a flimsy thin cardboard (paper) box without sleeves. Just 12 loose balls inside. The box is slightly smaller than a typical dozen comes in due to not having the balls packaged in individual sleeves. I'd have to imagine the MG packaging cost 10-15 cents each. Maybe even less.

 

Also. Go to MG's website and look at their balls and the associated info on the ball. And... they are only $19.95 dz.

[Strokgolf]

Check out these logo designs we are considering. I'd love to hear your thoughts on theses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[PlaidJacket]

Check out these logo designs we are considering. I'd love to hear your thoughts on theses.

 

 

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Too dang large man. Tone it way down. Much smaller. Look at Titleist or Kirkland. Use their classy look as your guide. Use a small number also.

I wish I could make an example for you. But you'll get there.

[Shankster]

Check out these logo designs we are considering. I'd love to hear your thoughts on theses.

 

 

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Take those down to a smaller font and they'll be perfect, I like the filled in flag sticks.

 

#5 or #6 are my favorites.

 

 

- Alan

[Strokgolf]

Thanks for the feedback. We have heard that from a lot of people. We had planned to go smaller. And had these drawn up for reference.

 

 

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[vincequest]

Love #4 and #5 on the designs. When the S is connected, its not very legible. Separate S is much easier on the eyes!

[Strokgolf]

As we are getting closer to meeting our goal on Kickstarter, I want too take this opportunity to ask the community about how you see big data helping you become a better player.

 

We see crowdsourcing player guides (think Waze for golf courses) as one way.

 

Check out how your help is shaping our product here

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1393885060/strok-premium-golf-balls-under-30-dozen

 

 

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[PlaidJacket]

Mmmm not sure about your Big Data angle. Perhaps you could elaborate. If you're familiar with what the guys running MGS do they use bigley data for testing golf equipment. I just looked at Waze so I get what they are trying to do for navigating around a big congested city. So, I'm assuming you'd like to make a Waze for golf is that correct? However, aren't there already plenty of GPS and or static map/hole layouts where everything is marked. Golf courses aren't dynamic like traffic. For the most part they say the same all the time unless a redesign or new features are added or removed. Basically, golf courses are static. I don't see what you'd be bringing to the game with a Waze for golf. Probably better stick with your ball for now.

I'm also curious what your plans are if you don't meet your Kickstarter goal by the 24th of June. Have you redesigned the logo for the ball yet?

[nupezb]

Looks like their kickstarter efforts was cancelled.

 

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1393885060/strok-premium-golf-balls-under-30-dozen

[null]

Not surprising since almost all of their backer money came from the 10 people who pledged 1500 too get a Tyson Lamb putter.

 

They only had $15,449 pledged and $15k was from the 10 people that pledged 1.5k to get the putter

[AH1980MN]

I was wondering why this thread went quiet...

[B81Smith]

huh.  Too bad.  Looks like they're not all down and out.  Sounds like a partner is on board - perhaps taking the funding issue off the table.  Interested to see/hear more.

[The Dansome]

I will say the standard Prelux was one of my favorite balls I've played in a while.

[null]

I will say the standard Prelux was one of my favorite balls I've played in a while.

Have you guys heard anything from them?

[The Dansome]

Have you guys heard anything from them?

 

Just the update on the KickStarter page

 

new partner

retooling logo 

etc

 

Hello Friends, 

 It's day 27 of the "mission" and with your support we have raised over $15K! The bad news is we are $13K short! Through this process we have made some great friends and will be adding a partner to the STRÅŒK family. (Exciting details will be released soon) 

 

 It's with heavy heart, but not discouragement, that we are "pulling the plug" on the Kickstarter campaign. This is not the end of STRÅŒK in fact we are moving forward with even more confidence in our products and are exploring some other product offerings! 

 

Additionally we are reworking our logo. We gathered some consistent feedback that the logo needed toned down a notch (or several notches to some) and we are working on those revised options now. If you haven't already joined the discussion, please join us on our social media channels and make your vote count! 

 

 Be certain to visit www.strokgolf.com soon for more details on balls and other news. Instagram, Twitter and Facebook are always great ways to keep in touch or feel free to email me anytime. I'd like to hear your thoughts on new product ideas, how we can be better or how/if you'd like to be a part of the STRÅŒK family. 

 

Keep in touch and until then I will see you on the green!

 

Sincerely your friend,

 

Marcus Snyder 

 

Chief Founder STRÅŒK 

 

Dallas TX [email protected] 

 

PS - you will not be charged for any financial contribution you have made.

[null]

Ah that's news since yesterday. Thanks

[TeeRosset]

Definitely different. I'd want to try these