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All very good points, but do you see that after 36 holes, 54 holes or maybe less. That's what we need to find out.

 

 

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I find the change in feel and distance to hit around 50 Holes.

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Driver: :cobra-small: Speedzone 10.5* lofted down to 9.0* Fujikura Atmos Black TS 6X

Wood: :cobra-small: Speedzone Tour Fujikura Atmos Black TS 7X

Hybrids: :cobra-small: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX

Irons: :cobra-small: MIM Tour Irons 4-PW Project X 6.5

Wedges: :cobra-small: MIM Black 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400

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I read somewhere that the cores of premium golf balls are made to withstand about 100 strikes at 125mph club head speed before losing structural integrity i.e. cracking. The sheathing is considered less durable and unlikely to make it that long. 

Because of this information, I suspect any person who claims to have played 500 rounds of golf with one ball was probably paying a home course that included a clown's mouth, several windmills and a see-saw hole.

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Fairway Woods:  :cobra-small:  Cobra F6 13.5*, F6 Baffler 16*  

Irons: Split Set-  :ping-small: i200 3i - 7i ,  :benhogan-small: Ft Worth 15s, 8 (36), 9 (40), PW (44) 

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I read somewhere that the cores of premium golf balls are made to withstand about 100 strikes at 125mph club head speed before losing structural integrity i.e. cracking. The sheathing is considered less durable and unlikely to make it that long. 

Because of this information, I suspect any person who claims to have played 500 rounds of golf with one ball was probably paying a home course that included a clown's mouth, several windmills and a see-saw hole.

 

Do you mean 500 rounds or holes? I said I have hit over 80 holes with a ball a couple times last year. I have a handicap of slightly better than a scratch so at 80 holes averaging 4 strokes a hole as per a par 72 course that would mean 320 strokes. Of that more than half are short game shots and therefore a premium ball can withstand that volume easily

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In my bag:

Driver: :cobra-small: Speedzone 10.5* lofted down to 9.0* Fujikura Atmos Black TS 6X

Wood: :cobra-small: Speedzone Tour Fujikura Atmos Black TS 7X

Hybrids: :cobra-small: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX

Irons: :cobra-small: MIM Tour Irons 4-PW Project X 6.5

Wedges: :cobra-small: MIM Black 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400

Putter: :seemore-small: Nashville Z1C 34"

 Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X 

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Generally I'll lose a ball well before it's lived a very long and fruitful life.  

 

On another note, we had a pond diver at our course yesterday, and pulled out over 24,000 balls from two ponds,   I wanted a chance to go reclaim a few of my Prov's but didn't get it...LOL

 

 

We have someone come in about once a year.  It's fun to watch them dive.

Knowing my opening tee shots and their historical fondness of water, it's a good thing they aren't diving when I am teeing off!

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Driver:  :ping-small:  G 10.5* W/Tour Stiff 65g Ping Shaft   

Fairway Woods:  :cobra-small:  Cobra F6 13.5*, F6 Baffler 16*  

Irons: Split Set-  :ping-small: i200 3i - 7i ,  :benhogan-small: Ft Worth 15s, 8 (36), 9 (40), PW (44) 

Wedges: :benhogan-small:  TK, 52* & 56*

Putter:  :ping-small: Sigma G Kushin 

Bag:  :ping-small: Hoofer 5way

Balls:  :taylormade-small: TP5/X

 

 

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Do you mean 500 rounds or holes? I said I have hit over 80 holes with a ball a couple times last year. I have a handicap of slightly better than a scratch so at 80 holes averaging 4 strokes a hole as per a par 72 course that would mean 320 strokes. Of that more than half are short game shots and therefore a premium ball can withstand that volume easily

Sorry, I was responding to texas2cap who claimed 500 consecutive holes on one ball.

Driver:  :ping-small:  G 10.5* W/Tour Stiff 65g Ping Shaft   

Fairway Woods:  :cobra-small:  Cobra F6 13.5*, F6 Baffler 16*  

Irons: Split Set-  :ping-small: i200 3i - 7i ,  :benhogan-small: Ft Worth 15s, 8 (36), 9 (40), PW (44) 

Wedges: :benhogan-small:  TK, 52* & 56*

Putter:  :ping-small: Sigma G Kushin 

Bag:  :ping-small: Hoofer 5way

Balls:  :taylormade-small: TP5/X

 

 

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I read somewhere that the cores of premium golf balls are made to withstand about 100 strikes at 125mph club head speed before losing structural integrity i.e. cracking. The sheathing is considered less durable and unlikely to make it that long.

Because of this information, I suspect any person who claims to have played 500 rounds of golf with one ball was probably paying a home course that included a clown's mouth, several windmills and a see-saw hole.

So 100 tee shots at 125mph. Very few of us on this forum have that swing speed. And at most that's 14 swings a round. Half your shots are well under the 90mph swing speed. I think we could come up with a test to see how many actual holes it takes before a ball starts to loose its mojo.

 

Might be a winter project for me next year.

 

 

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So 100 tee shots at 125mph. Very few of us on this forum have that swing speed. And at most that's 14 swings a round. Half your shots are well under the 90mph swing speed. I think we could come up with a test to see how many actual holes it takes before a ball starts to loose its mojo.

 

Might be a winter project for me next year.

 

 

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100 was just for the core, not the sheath which apparently doesn't last as long. I would like to see this test!

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Driver:  :ping-small:  G 10.5* W/Tour Stiff 65g Ping Shaft   

Fairway Woods:  :cobra-small:  Cobra F6 13.5*, F6 Baffler 16*  

Irons: Split Set-  :ping-small: i200 3i - 7i ,  :benhogan-small: Ft Worth 15s, 8 (36), 9 (40), PW (44) 

Wedges: :benhogan-small:  TK, 52* & 56*

Putter:  :ping-small: Sigma G Kushin 

Bag:  :ping-small: Hoofer 5way

Balls:  :taylormade-small: TP5/X

 

 

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100 was just for the core, not the sheath which apparently doesn't last as long. I would like to see this test!

Ever been to a driving range? Not many of them replace golf balls after 100 strikes. By the way, my swing speed is about 105.

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Ever been to a driving range? Not many of them replace golf balls after 100 strikes. By the way, my swing speed is about 105.

True but a driving range ball and a "tour" ball are not the same thing.

 

 

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Hybrid: 18* 2 & 22* 4 Sub 70 949

Irons:  Sub 70 

639 CB 5 - 6

639 MB 7 - PW

Wedges: Sub 70

JB - 50* 54* & 60*

Putter: Odyssey 2-Ball Ten Arm Lock
Ball: Titleist Pro V1X
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Ever been to a driving range? Not many of them replace golf balls after 100 strikes. By the way, my swing speed is about 105.

 

In high school, I worked at a driving range (well, a course with a driving range. I charged the carts and drove the range groomer). A) range balls are a completely different construction than the ball you described and B) they still don't last that long.

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Driver:  :ping-small:  G 10.5* W/Tour Stiff 65g Ping Shaft   

Fairway Woods:  :cobra-small:  Cobra F6 13.5*, F6 Baffler 16*  

Irons: Split Set-  :ping-small: i200 3i - 7i ,  :benhogan-small: Ft Worth 15s, 8 (36), 9 (40), PW (44) 

Wedges: :benhogan-small:  TK, 52* & 56*

Putter:  :ping-small: Sigma G Kushin 

Bag:  :ping-small: Hoofer 5way

Balls:  :taylormade-small: TP5/X

 

 

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In high school, I worked at a driving range (well, a course with a driving range. I charged the carts and drove the range groomer). A) range balls are a completely different construction than the ball you described and B) they still don't last that long.

Range balls also get wear and tare from how they are picked up.

 

Back to the tour ball. What is a good way to test the average golfer and how long that your ball will last before you see performance drop off?

 

 

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Driver: Taylormade M6 10.5*

FW: Callaway Steelhead Plus 4 wood

Hybrid: 18* 2 & 22* 4 Sub 70 949

Irons:  Sub 70 

639 CB 5 - 6

639 MB 7 - PW

Wedges: Sub 70

JB - 50* 54* & 60*

Putter: Odyssey 2-Ball Ten Arm Lock
Ball: Titleist Pro V1X
Handicap index:  +2.9

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Range balls also get wear and tare from how they are picked up.

 

Back to the tour ball. What is a good way to test the average golfer and how long that your ball will last before you see performance drop off?

 

 

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I used to work for one of the major OEM companies. Tons of testing went on including golf balls from every manufacturer. Tests were conducted with both a robot that hit golf balls and with a machine designed to launch golf balls with predetermined spin rates and axis. The latter of those 2 gave us the most reliable tests as far as performance in different conditions. Several factors were able to be isolated that way. The robot would be the ideal way to test when trying to determine durability or longevity.

 

I hope that helps. If you are trying to test with human input, you would want to use 1 ball, a launch monitor, and probably a net. You would need to calculate average ball speeds over 10 shots, then divide the test into 10 shot groups. I'm guessing there will be a time when you will notice a drop off in average and high ball speeds. Continue until failure.

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I've gone 500 holes with the srixon z star vx tour yellow. It lost about 10 yards after about 150-180 holes. Then it was the same until I took it out of play.

One ball, 27 rounds???? Were you using it for putt-putt????[emoji15][emoji23]⛳️🏌️[emoji106]

 

 

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I don't pay attention

 

 

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Tour Exotics 3 wood is in the bag because we are allowed 14 clubs.  It's a great club for pulling balls out of the water or from bushes - you never want to put your hand into anything in Florida unless you are absolutely certain that it's safe.  There are rare wind conditions when I might hit it off the tee on a few holes that I play.  

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I should add you guys must be better players than I because I've never really noticed a drop off from use. Beyond scuffing from cart paths and trees I just play them until I lose them. I always start with a new ball for a competitive round

 

 

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Taylor Made Sim2  10.5 (Opened 1 click) Ventus Blue 5  R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

Edison Wedges 54 and 59 KBS Tour Graphite 80's

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Tour Exotics 3 wood is in the bag because we are allowed 14 clubs.  It's a great club for pulling balls out of the water or from bushes - you never want to put your hand into anything in Florida unless you are absolutely certain that it's safe.  There are rare wind conditions when I might hit it off the tee on a few holes that I play.  

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