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Anyone know the difference between the spider tour black vs red? I know they have different inserts however i dont know what makes the inserts different.

Black is a harder insert for a firmer feel and red is a soft insert. Both Pure Roll but I believe the Red is surlyn and black is 80/20 so it's a little more firm.

 

 

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I'm wanting one...not because every winning tour pro is making putts with them now....actually because I've always liked the look and feel of them. Anybody got one?     Sent from my iPhone using My

I had a flow neck one but I sold it after testing the Evnroll. I'd love to give one of the slant neck ones a shot

... Well my Tour Black passed the first test. I took it and 10 balls to a practice putting green and hit all kinds of putts and the TB rolled great. Distance putts were just as accurate as short putts

I have the Spider OS and love it. Easy to line up and control the distances. Love the feel and really rolls true. I have tried the Day and DJ and prefer the OS myself. Should be in the bag for a long time.

 

 

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... Well I couldn't pass up Budget Golf's 20% off as it applied to the Spider Black Tour. Hopefully I can get most of my money back if it doesn't work as well on real greens with slopes as well as the flat PGA SS greens. 

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Bought the Tour Red last Monday, so far so good. Took a few rounds to get the speed down but this thing really gets the ball started on line.

 

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... Well my Tour Black passed the first test. I took it and 10 balls to a practice putting green and hit all kinds of putts and the TB rolled great. Distance putts were just as accurate as short putts while uphill and downhill putts worked equally well. I was a little worried about downhill putts but my fears were unfounded. I really am impressed with how the putter head stays on a slightly gated path and never seems to lose it's line. Perhaps it is the weight so far in the back since I have always played a blade putter. Of course the next and biggest test is playing it in a round of golf. 

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... Well my Tour Black passed the first test. I took it and 10 balls to a practice putting green and hit all kinds of putts and the TB rolled great. Distance putts were just as accurate as short putts while uphill and downhill putts worked equally well. I was a little worried about downhill putts but my fears were unfounded. I really am impressed with how the putter head stays on a slightly gated path and never seems to lose it's line. Perhaps it is the weight so far in the back since I have always played a blade putter. Of course the next and biggest test is playing it in a round of golf. 

 

Curious what you thought about not having a sight line

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... I don't like sight lines or any alignment aides on my putter and I have never used one. We see the line as perpendicular or parallel, meaning you align the putter in your head on the line like a hockey stick or a pool cue. I see it like a hockey stick so the face is what I use to align my putter and I find any alignment is just confusing to my subconscious. I am a very zen like putter and not technical like rolling over a spot, etc. I try to let my brain take in the line kinda like hiking down a rocky path where your are looking ahead but your brain tells your feet where to step without looking down. All I concentrate on is speed and once my brain has taken in the line, I don't think of it again, just the right speed. 

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... I don't like sight lines or any alignment aides on my putter and I have never used one. We see the line as perpendicular or parallel, meaning you align the putter in your head on the line like a hockey stick or a pool cue. I see it like a hockey stick so the face is what I use to align my putter and I find any alignment is just confusing to my subconscious. I am a very zen like putter and not technical like rolling over a spot, etc. I try to let my brain take in the line kinda like hiking down a rocky path where your are looking ahead but your brain tells your feet where to step without looking down. All I concentrate on is speed and once my brain has taken in the line, I don't think of it again, just the right speed.

Love your thoughts on this. I feel like not having the sight line is very freeing and has me focusing more on pace and line. That said I can't do without my line on the ball, I have tried numerous times and my putting suffers for it.

 

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Love your thoughts on this. I feel like not having the sight line is very freeing and has me focusing more on pace and line. That said I can't do without my line on the ball, I have tried numerous times and my putting suffers for it.

 

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... That is the crazy thing about golf, everyone is different in the way we process information and put it to use and I learned that teaching. A line on the ball has me concentrating on the line on the ball and not the speed. I like to align my ball so it looks blank with logo's and alignment aids down or on the side. So many use a line on their ball with great success and we all have to find what makes sense and what works for us.

 

 

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... That is the crazy thing about golf, everyone is different in the way we process information and put it to use and I learned that teaching. A line on the ball has me concentrating on the line on the ball and not the speed. I like to align my ball so it looks blank with logo's and alignment aids down or on the side. So many use a line on their ball with great success and we all have to find what makes sense and what works for us.

 

 

 

 

Yes crazy is definitely the right word for golf 😂. For me the line is more of an afterthought on where to start it. Allowing me to mainly worry about speed.

 

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I am obviously a TM loyalist but I was baffled when I first used it. The feeling off the face is so good. It's hard to get used to it when you're inside 5 feet but long putts are effortless. I was a Scotty user prior to making my switch and I don't see myself going back. If you read the MGS putter reviews they have it up there pretty high too so that should be word enough.

 

 

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Curious what you thought about not having a sight line

I always played with sight lines and having a clean top was refreshing for me. It actually got me to think more of line and feel the putt rather than focus on setup. Got me back to the days when I could roll it really good.

 

 

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I am obviously a TM loyalist but I was baffled when I first used it. The feeling off the face is so good. It's hard to get used to it when you're inside 5 feet but long putts are effortless. I was a Scotty user prior to making my switch and I don't see myself going back. If you read the MGS putter reviews they have it up there pretty high too so that should be word enough.

 

 

... And here is golf, especially equipment, in a nutshell. I have always used a blade 8802 style putter and coming from a Bobby Grace 6330 with a soft face insert so the Spider Black face feels awful to me but I need the toe hang or I would have bought the Red. And my experience is the exact opposite of yours. Short putts are almost automatic but I am still trying to find my range with long putts. It is such a crazy game. :wacko:  

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... OK experiment is over and Black Spider is out of the bag. Started the back 9 hitting irons to within 6 feet on the first 5 holes. Obviously not something I am used to seeing but was only able to make 3 out of 5 and one I made was a few inches so basically 2 out of 4. 50% inside 6 feet is awful and I didn't hit the hole on the two I missed. I just don't have any feel with the Spider compared to my old reliable blade that would most likely have been 4 out of 4 because they were easy putts with a gentle break or straight in. 

... I think the Spider Tour is a great putter for someone with a more mechanical stroke but it just doesn't seem to work for a feel putter. 

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... OK experiment is over and Black Spider is out of the bag. Started the back 9 hitting irons to within 6 feet on the first 5 holes. Obviously not something I am used to seeing but was only able to make 3 out of 5 and one I made was a few inches so basically 2 out of 4. 50% inside 6 feet is awful and I didn't hit the hole on the two I missed. I just don't have any feel with the Spider compared to my old reliable blade that would most likely have been 4 out of 4 because they were easy putts with a gentle break or straight in. 

 

... I think the Spider Tour is a great putter for someone with a more mechanical stroke but it just doesn't seem to work for a feel putter. 

 

Did you try adding a sight line? I added one and it helped with the short ones. 

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Did you try adding a sight line? I added one and it helped with the short ones. 

... Thanks but I do not like sight lines. My problem is the size of the putter head. After playing with a thin looking heel shafted 8802 style putter for 30 years the Spider Tour is just so unwieldy, at least to my eye. But like a true golf forum member, I took it out for a farewell round yesterday and putted much better with it. I might give it a few more rounds to see if I can ignore the size and just putt like I always have. 

Driver:   TaylorMade SIM2 Max ... Diamana Limited 60R
Fairway:  Cobra SZ 14.5* ... Atmos Blue TS 7S
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Diamana Limited 65R
               TaylorMade DHy 19* ... Diamana Limited 65R
Irons:    4-Pw Cobra King Tour MIM ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
Wedges:  Cobra Snakebite 50* ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
                 Mizuno T20 58* ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
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... Thanks but I do to like sight lines. My problem is the size of the putter head. After playing with a thin looking heel shafted 8802 style putter for 30 years the Spider Tour is just so unwieldy, at least to my eye. But like a true golf forum member, I took it out for a farewell round yesterday and putted much better with it. I might give it a few more rounds to see if I can ignore the size and just putt like I always have. 

 

I hear you, similiar story for me too. I had it in, took it out of my bag, then I am giving it another shot. This time with a sight line added. 

 

I played 9 holes last night and the line helps a lot. I wish I would have gotten the DJ version. The red one is a little soft for my taste. Naturally, once i took it out of the store I realized that. 

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Found out the other day that the Tour Red is useless for me on slow greens. Which really sucks because on quick greens I love this one. May have to go back to my GoLo as I could make it work for slow or fast greens.

 

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i use to have the Red Day Spider Tour. actually really liked the putter. even with out the sight line it was still very easy to aim the putter. i would buy the weight kit because they come standard very light feel. the reason i don't have my day putter anymore. the black face started to chip off the black paint and it was showing white grooves and that was less then 24hours of owning the putter and only 20min on the practice green. took it back and got store credit and ordered a Scotty Cameron Newport M1. best putter i've bought and wish i did it sooner. if u want a good putter get a scotty. yea they pricy but well worth it. easy to putt and rolls so good. better then the spider tour tbh

 

 

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Found out the other day that the Tour Red is useless for me on slow greens. Which really sucks because on quick greens I love this one. May have to go back to my GoLo as I could make it work for slow or fast greens.

 

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maybe try and add weight for slow greens. i find the red day was very light and was good on fast icy green but wasn't good on slow greens

 

 

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