cnosil Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Was reading a discussion in twitter about how the lie angle on wedges should be flatter than irons. While I have heard this before I wanted to get others opinions. Supposed to help the short game since there is less shaft deflection on partial shots Anyone who has been fit for wedges have you heard this? Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Never heard that before. I do have my wedges bent the same amount of my irons though. MDGolfHacker Quote TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesmandan76 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Never heard that before. I do have my wedges bent the same amount of my irons though. MDGolfHacker Same here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Driver: TM M1 9.5* 4W: Wishon bent FLAT Irons: Mizuno MP20MB Wedges: 50/55/60 Mizuno Putter: Evnroll ER2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numberonecoog Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I flatten mine out. I tend to pull them so flattening them is great Quote Check out my personal Equipment Blog and Podcast! Huntingforbirdies.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I play bot my irons and wedges @ 2 degrees flat. I've come out there at every fitting that I've ever had. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmith123 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Think of it this way. 99% of the stuff you see from people, golf pros, so called experts is crap. Also, this is the best explanation I ever got from someone I really respect (my instructor): At setup address position, your hands should be the same distance away from your body regardless of the club. Since that is the case, the longer the iron or wedge length, the flatter it should be to accommodate the impact position. For me this has always held true. My 3 iron is 2 degrees flat but my LW is "standard". Just a thought for you to consider. Cheers -Burk Sent from my Sprint LG G5 mobile device silver & black 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaskanski Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Get fit for your wedges as you would your irons - simple. What makes wedge fitting more critical though is loft - the lie is much more prone to affect ball flight and direction the higher loft gets, so wedge fitting is a must. The sole will interact with the ground more than any other club, so fitting is critical. The wedge will tend to be opened and closed in play more than any other club so fitting is critical. Lastly, wedges will tend to have a different shaft than your irons, be a different brand, be different in length progression, be heavier in weight and will have a completely different CoG. So guess what? Stop listening to anecdotal evidence on what you should be doing. Get fitted for wedges. cnosil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I had not heard that, but now it makes me wonder. When I do miss with my wedges, it's usually left (right handed) I wonder if them not being flat plays into that. All my irons are extra length and upright, but my wedges are stock length and lie. I just bought 3 of them last year. I almost hate to go have a wedge fitting now, and find out they should be longer, flatter would be ok, as that can be done easily. Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I had not heard that, but now it makes me wonder. When I do miss with my wedges, it's usually left (right handed) I wonder if them not being flat plays into that. All my irons are extra length and upright, but my wedges are stock length and lie. I just bought 3 of them last year. I almost hate to go have a wedge fitting now, and find out they should be longer, flatter would be ok, as that can be done easily. I thought you had those fitted? I'd get them fitted for your height.! MDGolfHacker Quote TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I play them the same, my tendency when I hit patial wedges is to push them, it's like that for every club where a partial shot is used, but particularly for wedges, so I just aim a little right knowing that it will fade to the left. Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I thought you had those fitted? I'd get them fitted for your height.! MDGolfHacker Nope not the wedges. Ordered them stock. I've never been fit for wedges. After reading a few different threads here the past two days. That was just dumb. I may be going to Carlsbad this summer. If so I'll make an appoitment to do so. As a result there may be a deal on 3 SM6's in the classifieds. Ha Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk MDGolfHacker 1 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanGolf Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 So funny how we can all differ. I hate to lose my irons left, but hate losing my wedges right. My wedges are the same as irons on lie angle but I've bumped them more upright in the past. I just hate that toe digging in. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote @BryanGolf Cobra F7+ w/Project X HZRDUS T1100 75g 6.5 Cobra F7 3 Wood w/Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White 80TXTaylorMade M2 5 Wood w/Graphite Design DI 8XTaylorMade UDI 3 Iron w/Project X HZRDUS Black 105g 6.5TaylorMade P770 4 Iron, P750 5-PW w/True Temper DGTI X100TaylorMade Milled Grind SB 54* w/DGTI S400​Titleist Vokey SM6 60* M Grind w/DGTI S400TaylorMade Spider Tour Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhoncho Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I can shed some light on this as I used to be a Mobile fitter for Titleist in the 90's before launch monitors. The concept of flatter wedges was that for better players you never want to miss a green left as it would generally fly further and roll out. A high cut however will generally land softer and can be easier to control. With a flatter lie a better player could repeat a fade easier. Many of Titleists tour players would do this to their wedges and through fitters and word of mouth it spread as the "right" thing to do. The correct way to do it of course is to be fit for your swing. A good wedge fitting should incorporate shots off of grass and a lie board. You should take full and half swings and judge the results you find from lie board as well as your divot length and depth to determine what wedge shape, grind, and lofts you should play. It's much easier to find a fit now with the huge amount of options you can find with wedges. silver & black, cnosil, MattF and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfats95 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I have been told this by multiple fitters. I have also had some not say a word and just use the same lie angle as the rest of the irons. Explanation I was given had to do with the shots going left as well. Quote "I'd play a ladies set of clubs if it allowed me to break par." PING G410 LST Fujikura Pro 2.0 Tour Spec 6 Titleist 17, 19, and 21 degree 818 H2 Hybrids Ping G700 5 - GW Titleist Vokey SM7 54 Wedge Titleist Vokey SM7 58 Wedge Evenroll ER3 Snell MTB-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKak Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I just ordered (FEB 2022) a 60-08 M grind vokey for hard-pan lies I will ask the fitter to bend it 1 degree flat and see how it goes and may get him to double check the 58-10 S grind I have FYI: KBS shafts are an issue to get in (April 2022) Quote Mavrik Sub Zero 12° - EVENFLOW RIPTIDE- GOLF PRIDE ZGrip ALIGN -MidSize Mavrik 15° - EVENFLOW RIPTIDE - GOLF PRIDE ZGrip ALIGN -MidSize Mavrik MAX 18° - EVENFLOW RIPTIDE - GOLF PRIDE ZGrip ALIGN -MidSize TS3 HYBRID 19° - Tensei AV Blue - GOLF PRIDE ZGrip 360 -MidSize T200 4-P - TRUE TEMPER AMT BLACK S300 - GOLF PRIDE ZGrip ALIGN -MidSize SM8 48.10F, 56.10S, 58.10S, 60.08M - KBS HI-REV 2.0 - GOLF PRIDE ZGrip ALIGN -MidSize BB39 Milled Putter 34.5" - Super Stroke Traxion FLATSO 3.0 Putter Grip Backup Select 2018 Newport Fastback - 34.5" - GOLF PRIDE TOUR SNSR CONTOUR PRO - 140cc 2020 Players 4+ Stadry Standbag Or 2021 Staff bag Compact C3 Golf Trolley PRO V1X ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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