SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 17, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 17, 2010 I would reshaft them. Pull the shafts from your burner wedges, and install in TP wedges. Make sure that the TP's are not taper tip before proceeding however... But are the Y grooves and the Z grooves conforming? Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 But are the Y grooves and the Z grooves conforming? "Well Sir, (rolls eyes)..." Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted2Golf Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 They would probably work out great with time. Right now, I think having a different wedge brand/model would cause me to feel the need to alter my swing and then resulting contact would be iffy. Why would you alter your swing based on what equipment you have? Shouldn't it be the other way around? You lost me there bud. Callaway FT-9 Driver 10.5* Grafalloy Prolaunch Axis Blue Callaway FT-9 Driver 9.0* Grafalloy Prolaunch Platinum Cobra Baffler Rail F Fairway 15.5* Fujikura Motore Wilson FYbrid 19* UST Proforce AXIV Core Cobra Baffler Rail H Hybrid 22* Fujikura Motore Ping I15 Irons 5-UW AWT Ping Tour-W 56*,60* DG Spinner Ping Redwood ZB Putter, WRX Starshot, 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted2Golf Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I never understood the camo wedge.... That thing is just asking to get lost. Neckcar fans love Boo Weekley. Boo Weekley loves camo. Do the math. Callaway FT-9 Driver 10.5* Grafalloy Prolaunch Axis Blue Callaway FT-9 Driver 9.0* Grafalloy Prolaunch Platinum Cobra Baffler Rail F Fairway 15.5* Fujikura Motore Wilson FYbrid 19* UST Proforce AXIV Core Cobra Baffler Rail H Hybrid 22* Fujikura Motore Ping I15 Irons 5-UW AWT Ping Tour-W 56*,60* DG Spinner Ping Redwood ZB Putter, WRX Starshot, 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted2Golf Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 They are thick soled, but it opens naturally to about 2 O'clock or so could go more open, but if I open a wedge that much and take a swing, someone's car in the parking lot is losing a window. the 55 is great in the sand too, open it, swing hard (this is the tough part to remember) and the ball pops up and out. again maybe not as well as a tour type wedge could get it done, but the tour wedge tends to do bad things in my hands. one of my playing goals is to get a 58 or 60 and practice with it until I can consistently hit at target from 50 yards and in. maybe later in the season once my iron swing plays nice again I think where you lose playing matching short game clubs is on finesse shots around the green (chipping and short pitch shots, not bunker play). The wedge grinds now allow you to open the face and add more or less loft as the situation dictates. To me, that outweighs any advantage I would get from having my wedges look like the rest of my set at address. Callaway FT-9 Driver 10.5* Grafalloy Prolaunch Axis Blue Callaway FT-9 Driver 9.0* Grafalloy Prolaunch Platinum Cobra Baffler Rail F Fairway 15.5* Fujikura Motore Wilson FYbrid 19* UST Proforce AXIV Core Cobra Baffler Rail H Hybrid 22* Fujikura Motore Ping I15 Irons 5-UW AWT Ping Tour-W 56*,60* DG Spinner Ping Redwood ZB Putter, WRX Starshot, 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddyjoe77 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I personally like the X-Forged callys. They wear like a tank and still spin the snot out of the ball for me. I shafted them with KB 6.5. Good flight and plenty of spin. The CG-15's recently caught my eye...in 52 and 58 Oil Quench finish....anyone played extensively with the Dynamic Sole Grind? I need to demo some to see how they perform on all types of shots. People Sleep Peacibly in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. -- George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted2Golf Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I personally like the X-Forged callys. They wear like a tank and still spin the snot out of the ball for me. I shafted them with KB 6.5. Good flight and plenty of spin. The CG-15's recently caught my eye...in 52 and 58 Oil Quench finish....anyone played extensively with the Dynamic Sole Grind? I need to demo some to see how they perform on all types of shots. I've messed around with the DSG's in the previous generation of Cleveland wedges. It makes for a very versatile wedge. Highly recommended if you are a Cleveland fan. Callaway FT-9 Driver 10.5* Grafalloy Prolaunch Axis Blue Callaway FT-9 Driver 9.0* Grafalloy Prolaunch Platinum Cobra Baffler Rail F Fairway 15.5* Fujikura Motore Wilson FYbrid 19* UST Proforce AXIV Core Cobra Baffler Rail H Hybrid 22* Fujikura Motore Ping I15 Irons 5-UW AWT Ping Tour-W 56*,60* DG Spinner Ping Redwood ZB Putter, WRX Starshot, 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddyjoe77 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I've messed around with the DSG's in the previous generation of Cleveland wedges. It makes for a very versatile wedge. Highly recommended if you are a Cleveland fan. thanks, i was thinking of going with 52/58 setup and would possibly need the DSG on the 52 for those 40 yard low runners that are supposed to stop or else the small pitches from 60 or so over crap that i want to run a touch out of rough. Did you notice any significant sliding under the ball in heavier rough? good to see someone else up at this time of night People Sleep Peacibly in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. -- George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted2Golf Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 thanks, i was thinking of going with 52/58 setup and would possibly need the DSG on the 52 for those 40 yard low runners that are supposed to stop or else the small pitches from 60 or so over crap that i want to run a touch out of rough. Did you notice any significant sliding under the ball in heavier rough? good to see someone else up at this time of night No, for me they played fine out of the rough. But, I guess it depends on how heavy you're talking about. Yeah, I'm a night owl. Plus, my job was been getting in the way of my forum responsibilities. Jobs are funny that way. Callaway FT-9 Driver 10.5* Grafalloy Prolaunch Axis Blue Callaway FT-9 Driver 9.0* Grafalloy Prolaunch Platinum Cobra Baffler Rail F Fairway 15.5* Fujikura Motore Wilson FYbrid 19* UST Proforce AXIV Core Cobra Baffler Rail H Hybrid 22* Fujikura Motore Ping I15 Irons 5-UW AWT Ping Tour-W 56*,60* DG Spinner Ping Redwood ZB Putter, WRX Starshot, 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamo Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Are there three different finishes on all models? CG15 too. Are you thinking Camo for the 3rd on the CG14 I was thinking chrome, black pearl, and oil quench. I just got it off of Cleveland's website, and camo was no longer on there. They just don't make the 14 in oil quench, but that is the one that they did make in camo, so I guess it all evens out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 18, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 18, 2010 Why would you alter your swing based on what equipment you have? Shouldn't it be the other way around? You lost me there bud. My swing is like a soap bubble sometimes, fragile and transient. When I look at the different head, I think different club and swing differently. Typically results are different from expected too... Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 18, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 18, 2010 I think where you lose playing matching short game clubs is on finesse shots around the green (chipping and short pitch shots, not bunker play). The wedge grinds now allow you to open the face and add more or less loft as the situation dictates. To me, that outweighs any advantage I would get from having my wedges look like the rest of my set at address. I can't tell you how bad I want that in my game, but I feel like I am just not there yet. What I really want is one wedge that becomes the magic wand from 50 yards in. I know the current burner sw is not this tool. Once the swing in consistent, then I think that I will really look hard at the Scratch wedges to see if one of the fancy grinds fits my needs. My previous 60* were truly only money on the blade through the green shot... Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDub99 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Man do i miss my 485 56. I could make that thing do anything and everything. What a great wedge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saternus Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I think where you lose playing matching short game clubs is on finesse shots around the green (chipping and short pitch shots, not bunker play). The wedge grinds now allow you to open the face and add more or less loft as the situation dictates. To me, that outweighs any advantage I would get from having my wedges look like the rest of my set at address. I agree with your main point here, for me, which is why I would only like to add a matched wedge in my 52* because that's basically just a full shot club. I will also say that I think matching wedges are probably a good idea for the majority of high handicap golfers, in part because it would encourage them to play more straight forward shots around the green and fewer "60* laid wide open" flop shots that they see on TV. Follow me on Twitter: @MattSaternus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 18, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 18, 2010 Playing the tour wedge really feels like playing blades to me for now. Nice looking in the bag, ugly on the course. Something to use as a goal though. Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Playing the tour wedge really feels like playing blades to me for now. Nice looking in the bag, ugly on the course. Something to use as a goal though. Do it. Learn with them. You will reap the rewards later.. Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 19, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 19, 2010 Do it. Learn with them. You will reap the rewards later.. So do I get a CG14 to have a little help, or one of the scratch wedges. Should the 60* become the everything club? Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamo Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 So do I get a CG14 to have a little help, or one of the scratch wedges. Should the 60* become the everything club? I would get a Scratch wedge. Much higher quality from what I hear. I prefer the 1 wedge approach to simplify everything, but some people, Dave Pelz comes to mind, like to use all of their wedges. Whatever is best for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 19, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 19, 2010 I would get a Scratch wedge. Much higher quality from what I hear. I prefer the 1 wedge approach to simplify everything, but some people, Dave Pelz comes to mind, like to use all of their wedges. Whatever is best for you. One wedge for simplicity. Still bag others for full shots. I am just going to try and stick to one thing for a while. What that thing is still tbd Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 So do I get a CG14 to have a little help, or one of the scratch wedges. Should the 60* become the everything club? I would only drop the dough on a Scratch if you know exactly what grind you want, or can be for for that grind. I put the CG12's back in for today, and they have earned a place in the bag... For a while. Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 So do I get a CG14 to have a little help, or one of the scratch wedges. Should the 60* become the everything club? I would only drop the dough on a Scratch if you know exactly what grind you want, or can be for for that grind. I put the CG12's back in for today, and they have earned a place in the bag... For a while. Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 20, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 20, 2010 CG12 was the nemesis wedge that I bought when I bought my first set. 60* only brought smiles to the balls. That is why I am thinking CG14 Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 CG12 was the nemesis wedge that I bought when I bought my first set. 60* only brought smiles to the balls. That is why I am thinking CG14 12's and 14's are so similar, that the only difference is the placebo effect. Get the 14's if you think that you will hit them better, because you will. Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamo Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 CG12 was the nemesis wedge that I bought when I bought my first set. 60* only brought smiles to the balls. That is why I am thinking CG14 Are the 14's actually more forgiving or are they just softer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddyjoe77 Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i just picked up a 58 x-tour PM Grind vintage at global golf for 60 bucks. Not a bad deal, throw the KB Tour back in it and i am good to go for another 2 years. Also, i ground the leading edge of my mizzy MP-T 51 which seemed to dig wayy to much for me. Much better today even though i didn't hit it all that often today. People Sleep Peacibly in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. -- George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 21, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 21, 2010 Are the 14's actually more forgiving or are they just softer? Gel insert to be more forgiving, but nic says that is mainly placebo... I am just sticking to my burners, maybe ordering the lob. Scoring is just better right now. today vokey added about 4 strokes because I am unfamiliar with it. after practice, we will reassess. Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Saternus Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Gel insert to be more forgiving, but nic says that is mainly placebo... I am just sticking to my burners, maybe ordering the lob. Scoring is just better right now. today vokey added about 4 strokes because I am unfamiliar with it. after practice, we will reassess. Today's round made me want to play wedges that matched my set. Hit some real ugos with the wedges. Then on 16 I hit one to 10 feet and sucked it back - Vokeys redeemed! That aside, if/when I get a new set of irons I will definitely get a matching gap wedge. Follow me on Twitter: @MattSaternus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 22, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 22, 2010 Today's round made me want to play wedges that matched my set. Hit some real ugos with the wedges. Then on 16 I hit one to 10 feet and sucked it back - Vokeys redeemed! That aside, if/when I get a new set of irons I will definitely get a matching gap wedge. No pull the string back for me today. Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzman43 Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 I agree that wedges are very personal and I have played with Cleveland, Vokey and Mizuno.....I recently fell hard for the Exotics Tour Black Extreme Spin Wedges with a KBS Tour Black Nickel Shaft...I have a 52 and 56....they have a great feel and look....easy to play with and the 56 is as good a wedge out of the sand as I have ever played.....worth a look for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy_X Posted June 2, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted June 2, 2010 Thanks for your input and welcome to the forums Jazzman. I agree that wedges are very personal and I have played with Cleveland, Vokey and Mizuno.....I recently fell hard for the Exotics Tour Black Extreme Spin Wedges with a KBS Tour Black Nickel Shaft...I have a 52 and 56....they have a great feel and look....easy to play with and the 56 is as good a wedge out of the sand as I have ever played.....worth a look for sure #TruthDigest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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