Shankster Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I stopped by the course on my way home today and I got beat to the club house by about 20 high school kids that went out in 5 somes. So elected to hit the practice area and work on my putting. 20-30 minutes later a guy comes up and starts chipping. Right away I noticed he had a really super weak bottom hand and a really strong top hand with a baseball grip. I watched him out of the corner of my eye stuffing the clubhead into the rough and with every one getting more frustrated with him self. I was 30-40 feet away but I noticed him looking in my direction. My question is: In this scenario would you offer a tip? I feel like I should have, but I am not a pro. And I remember disliking when people gave me a tip that I didn't ask for. Thoughts ladies and gentlemen? - Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmikecpa Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 My general rule is to not offer a tip unless I am asked for one. Even then I am apprehensive as what works for me generally will not work for someone else. WITB 2024 Driver: Qi10 LS 9* HZRDUS RDX Smoke Blue 60 6.5 Fairway: M5 15* Evenflow Black 75g 6.5 Fairway: Sim 19* HZRDUS Red 75g 6.5 Hybrid: 0317x 22* KBS Proto 95x Irons: X Forged CB 5 - PW MMT 105 TX Wedges: Jaws Raw 50*, 54* & 58* TTDG "OG" Spinner Putter: Toulon Madison BGT Fire 34.75" Ball: Z Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 If the guy is struggling and he looks like a beginner... then I might... Or you might want to strike a conversation first... wouldn't want to make a fool out of myself trying to give tips to a scratch player who's just having a bad day SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 If the guy is struggling and he looks like a beginner... then I might... Or you might want to strike a conversation first... wouldn't want to make a fool out of myself trying to give tips to a scratch player who's just having a bad day Definitely a beginner but I hear you. Wouldn't want to give tips to the local legend! - Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacou19 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I have a hard time offering tips to my friends when they ask if I see something! So I would never offer unless I'm asked and even then, I start by saying that I know how to play but I'm not a pro, so take what I say with a grain of salt. -Driver: Cobra Aerojet LS 10.5 (Kai'Li Stiff shaft) -5 wood: Cobra Aerojet (stiff shaft) -Hybrids: Cobra F7 stiff shaft set at 19.5 and 23.5 degree -Irons: Mizuno JPX 919 forged 5 to PW ( Project X LZ 6.5) -Wedges: Vokey SM7, 50, 54 and 58 degree -Putter: Odyssey O-Works Red #7 (33 inches) I play between 70 to 80 rounds per year. Living in Alberta, Canada, our season is shorter and with work, that is all I can get in, but watch out when I retire... P.S. The picture is from my favorite course so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josmi15 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I participated in my first tournament last year and the day before I was practicing my wedges , some guy walks over and gives me a "tip". That was in my head all weekend and I shanked or duffed EVERY chip. I suggest not offering unless asked. PS would love to find the guy that got in my head Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Titleist 917D2 10.5 Ben Hogan GS53 3 Wood PING G425 MAX 5 Wood Cleveland UHX Launcher 3 Iron PING G30 5-PW Cleveland RTX 3.0 50/10 V-MG Cleveland RTX 3.0 54/14 V-FG Cleveland RTX 3.0 58/12 V -FG EVNROLL ER-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 I as well don't like receiving unwanted tips. But this guy seemed like he was waiting for me to say something. Either to whack me in the head or take my advice. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP The Dansome Posted April 25, 2017 SPY VIP Share Posted April 25, 2017 If they don't strike up a conversation or ask then I'd say stay out of it. Yo #JustPlayBetter Follow @GolfSpyMBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AH1980MN Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 It's in my nature to try to help. That being said, saying nothing often is a bigger "help". I might wait a bit then make the "I'm taking a break" sigh, then look over and say "how's it going today" or similar. If he was waiting for you to ask he'll let you know one way or the other, if not, no biggie, just get back to what you were doing. No harm, no foul(unless you're Lexi/DJ!). WITB: Adams 9064LS 9.5* (until I cracked the face) Adams Super LS 17* Adams XTD Ti 23* Wilson Staff Ci7 4-PW Adams wedges: 52/7 56/13 60/7 Wilson Staff Infinite Southside putter/Odyssey DualForce 660 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfinnut Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I never offer advice unless asked for it. You never know how someone will react to it Now in my regular foursome I'll offer up the "wrong" advice on purpose! HA! Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk WITB: Do I like Titleist or what? Driver: TSR3 9* UST Mamiya Proto LIN-Q Blue Fairways: TSi2 UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 13.5* Driving Iron: U500 17* Blue Ventus HB Velocore Irons: T350 4 & 5, T200 6 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Dart F4 105g Wedges: SM9 48*, SM9 52*, SM8 56* Modus Tour Wedge Putter: Newport 2 w/ Garsen Ultimate grip Ball: *ProV1 Left Dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 No sir . That is probably my worse pet peeve... I do not like advice unless I request it.. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I never offer advice unless asked for it. You never know how someone will react to it Now in my regular foursome I'll offer up the "wrong" advice on purpose! HA! Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk So that's what happened the first time we went out!! ha ha ha... MDGolfHacker TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just so you all I know. I never offer advice unless asked. I just felt like this particular guy had this help me look and kept watching me. I didn't say anything. We were on a practice green, tips on the course are grounds for an arse whoopin. Like my dads league partner Kevin, nonstop lessons of crap. I will not say nothing to nobody. Just felt obligated to help this young man. He didn't have a clue, like someone at a used car lot looking for an SUV but in the compact car area. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 If they don't strike up a conversation or ask then I'd say stay out of it.This... Personally, I'm not the best Golfer so I wouldn't want to lead a person down the wrong road, but I have stayed at a holiday Inn express before so that might make me qualified to offer golf instruction... Ha ha ha.. MDGolfHacker TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 No sir . That is probably my worse pet peeve... I do not like advice unless I request it.. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I 100% agree. I get angry on course with the advice. But I swear this guy either didn't like my hair or really wanted me to help him. - Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I 100% agree. I get angry on course with the advice. But I swear this guy either didn't like my hair or really wanted me to help him. - Alan Or he may have like your hair Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Or he may have like your hair Oh man.. got me there!! - Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Like most I don't offer unless asked and then it usually comes with a disclaimer. But I get what your saying about looking like he wanted help. But when I've had a bad streak of shots at the range, it's not uncommon for me to stop strand back and just watch others. I'm usually just clearing my head. Believe me, the last thing I want at that time is for a random stranger to approach with a tip!! G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 It's in my nature to try to help. That being said, saying nothing often is a bigger "help". I might wait a bit then make the "I'm taking a break" sigh, then look over and say "how's it going today" or similar. If he was waiting for you to ask he'll let you know one way or the other, if not, no biggie, just get back to what you were doing. No harm, no foul(unless you're Lexi/DJ!). He did hit a ball in my direction that coulda taken off some skin... - Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I never offer tips. The exception is my brother. He's a fairly new golfer with problems that are easily spotted. I give him very basic "suggestions"... then tell him to take a few lessons from someone who knows what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Like most I don't offer unless asked and then it usually comes with a disclaimer. But I get what your saying about looking like he wanted help. But when I've had a bad streak of shots at the range, it's not uncommon for me to stop strand back and just watch others. I'm usually just clearing my head. Believe me, the last thing I want at that time is for a random stranger to approach with a tip!! I already had my speech planned if he asked. You see me? I'm standing in the same place you are. Trying to get better at this game. There are numerous websites, (MGS) full of guys just like us. Come on over and join the crowd. Oh, and by the way my name is Shanks. Have a nice day. - Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just so you know what I'm taking about. His grip looked like this. I tried swing like that, couldn't do it. - Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSauer Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 It really depends on who the individual you're offering the advice to is. Some people do not deal well in that situation, thinking you're trying to tell them what to do. On the flip side, if you think the person is approachable, go for it. I just had this scenario this past weekend. Me being the one approached. I don't like to bug anyone and ask for tips, because I don't want to be that guy. However, I was approached by a coach while I was walking alone and practiced with him for about an hour. He said he broke his only rule, he never approaches anyone to help them unless they ask. Driver: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Fairway: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65 Hybrid: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S Hybrid: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80 Irons: P790 5-PW | DG S300 Wedges: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200 Putter: Link.1 | Accra x LAB --- LAB Golf Link.1 Review --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 Noted all. No tips from me. At least in person. I don't feel like getting Shanked. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Ball Markers Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 No tips - from or for me. The only exceptions - a friend who is learning and wants my help, or a friend who is struggling with an issue and asks me to mention when it happens. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy http://www.instagram.com/libertyballmarkers/ http://www.birdie-bomb.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGolfore Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I do not offer tips unless I am asked or I have had 5 or 6 beers. Then you might get some pointers and they might not all be good ha. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Callaway Rogue 9* FW: Sub 70 Pro 4 wood Hybrid: Sub 70 949 Hybrid 19* Irons: Sub 70 659 CB 4 - 6 Black 639 MB 7 - PW Wedges: Sub 70 JB - 50* 54* & 60* Putter: Odyssey White Hot #2 Ball: Titleist Pro-V1x Handicap index: +3.9 Instagram: joshandersongolf Twitter: @jacustomgolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Like most I don't offer unless asked and then it usually comes with a disclaimer. But I get what your saying about looking like he wanted help. But when I've had a bad streak of shots at the range, it's not uncommon for me to stop strand back and just watch others. I'm usually just clearing my head. Believe me, the last thing I want at that time is for a random stranger to approach with a tip!! I've watched others when I'm struggling a couple times. Actually learned how to put spin on my greenside bunker shots by doing that. Sent from my E6853 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 As a rule I don't usually say anything. I do offer "helpful hints" on how to play a certain shot to my wife when I know that she will have trouble with it. That's why she wears earbuds to her iPod listening to music. It's her spousal filter. When I'm walking during the week with the guys and I see one of them struggling with a shot (they are all players equal to me), I might start a conversation on what I have been doing to work on that shot. I never offer advice to them. Make it about yourself. I never offer advice to a stranger, but if they ask I would phrase it like I would with the guys. You have to be careful because some people may not be able to get into the proper position due to physical limitations. They are doing the best they can. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaksy68 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 As a rule I don't usually say anything. When I'm walking during the week with the guys and I see one of them struggling with a shot (they are all players equal to me), I might start a conversation on what I have been doing to work on that shot. I never offer advice to them. Make it about yourself. I never offer advice to a stranger, but if they ask I would phrase it like I would with the guys. Similar thing for me. I never offer any advice when playing, but occasionally I might comment on something I noticed after a round has finished, but only if its someone I know well, and whose game I know. I have a role at my club mentoring our junior teams, so sometimes if playing with juniors who I know get coached by our pro, I will ask them what he's been getting them to do if they are having a bad round. This gets around advice rules, but may help them remember to swing differently (nearly always slower than what they are) I have cleared this with the pro and he's encouraged me to do it. I never offer advice on the range, but on the chipping area I will occasionally have a chat with someone. Mainly describing what I work on if I'm chipping badly. Again, I only do this with someone I know, and who I know might appreciate it. I don't actually give techniques advice, more talk about how I try to fix issues that creep into my chipping. 849 Pro Evenflow Riptide 6.0 F8 3 & 5 Woods Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 TS2 7 Wood Project X Evenflow Blue 6.0 MP18 MMC - Project X LZ 5.5 Zipcore Wedges 50,54,58 - Project X LZ 5.5 MLA Tour Mallet 33" Z Star Pioneer bag buggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireinthehole Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I don't pay attention to what anyone is doing, and so I don't give advice even when asked. Like blood from a stone. Or avoiding the plague. If I have to, like a friend or relative asks. I always start with, " it's important you know this is what I do and works for me, you should find what works best for you" Like everyone else has said, real can of worms. I can understand it can be painful to watch if your a "helper." Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy My Mixed-Bag: Driver: Mavrik Sub zero, ventus black 7x Fairway: Still looking! Irons: MP-18 MB 4-PW Wedges: Miura K Grinds Putter: Evnroll 1.2 blade Ball: Z star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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