dadivots Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I already had my speech planned if he asked. You see me? I'm standing in the same place you are. Trying to get better at this game. There are numerous websites, (MGS) full of guys just like us. Come on over and join the crowd. Oh, and by the way my name is Shanks. Have a nice day. - Alan Yeah, thats pretty much the idea for me. After all if obvious help is what he needed and was what he was looking for I would extend myself and see if he was, or if I could help. Forlorn and dealing with the 'crowd' is one of the hurdles for all beginners out there, when that little ball is giving you nothing but grief and others seem to get it. Golf is about helping that beginner over his 'hurdles' as much as anything else... especailly if the guy wants it and is willing to put forth the effort. Maybe you'll see him again, and that can only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just so you know what I'm taking about. His grip looked like this. IMG_0848.JPG I tried swing like that, couldn't do it. - Alan How is that even possible? Damn... I tried and almost sprained my wrists... Of course, one never knows... perhaps he has some physical condition that prevents him from gripping normally... I see the majority here rather not give/receive tips, but that's because we already know how to play (some more than others). You can actually break someone's game with the wrong tips. Hell... I don't like receiving unsolicited tips either! But in this case, Shankster identified him as a total beginner... I don't think a friendly suggestion would hurt. It's like you are seeing a guy walking into a dark alley and you know he will be mugged and you don't do anything about it expecting someone else to prevent it... ok, weird analogy... SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmikecpa Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just so you know what I'm taking about. His grip looked like this. IMG_0848.JPG I tried swing like that, couldn't do it. - Alan Azinger had a pretty good career with that grip. Would tell him to not change a thing Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy WITB 2024 Driver: Qi10 LS 9* HZRDUS RDX Smoke Blue 60 6.5 Fairway: M5 15* Evenflow Black 75g 6.5 Fairway: Sim 19* HZRDUS Red 75g 6.5 Hybrid: 0317x 22* KBS Proto 95x Irons: X Forged CB 5 - PW MMT 105 TX Wedges: Jaws Raw 50*, 54* & 58* TTDG "OG" Spinner Putter: Toulon Madison BGT Fire 34.75" Ball: Z Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWahoo Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Once at the range where I practice, a gentleman in the stall next to me asked if I had any advice for him. I told him that if he were to go to the other side of the range, he will see a garage looking building where there is a PGA teaching pro that can definitely help him. I told him that getting advice from me is like Ray Charles giving Stevie Wonder directions home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Once at the range where I practice, a gentleman in the stall next to me asked if I had any advice for him. I told him that if he were to go to the other side of the range, he will see a garage looking building where there is a PGA teaching pro that can definitely help him. I told him that getting advice from me is like Ray Charles giving Stevie Wonder directions home. LOL. Good advice partner! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeathS16 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 That sounds painful to watch. If it were me don't give me advice unless asked first. Call it ego or pride it just stings when you know someone is seeing you suck so bad at a simple task tough situation! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: TSi3 Tester Check out the Review HERE 2-Iron- 699-U 5-Wood: Pro (18*) Irons : i210 4-PW Wedges: RTX-4 50* and 54* RTX-3 *58 Putter: Impact No. 3 Ball: MAXFLI TOUR Tracked by: Bag: BagBoy ZTF Stand Bag (REVIEW HERE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 He was a young athletic dude. Would have pounded me in the dirt probably. But I'll strike up a conversation next time I see him. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downlowkey Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I'm often asked for advice and always oblige but never offer it prior to being solicited. That said, when someone nearby is struggling mightily I'll make some attempts at commiseration via conversation. The most recent scenario involved a gentleman beside me on the range working through a super jumbo bucket, seriously struggling at the frenzied rate of ~6 balls a minute. Halfway through he had huffed and puffed himself into such a state he stopped to catch his breath. It was at this point that he looked over toward me and I somewhat sarcastically said "Fun game, huh?". He cracked a smile and replied "I'd be having a lot more fun if I could hit it like you". I explained that I'd been playing for 20 years and still have days that make me wanna quit; physics should preclude everyone from being any good at this game; and finally that I often have to remind myself why I'm really out here. It all hit home and after chatting a bit more he slowed way down and was hitting the ball much better toward the end. Sometimes the best tip you can give is letting someone know they are not alone.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy PXG___0811 X 9* - Mitsubishi Diamana s60 Limited X Cobra___S9-1 Pro 15* - Matrix Ozik XCON 7 S Adams___XTD Forged 3i - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S Adams___CMB 4-PW - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S KZG___Tri-Tour 50.08__54.10__58.12 - Accra iCWT 2.0-95i S Nike___Method Converge B1-01 (copper insert) Maxfli___'23 Tour X "The most important shot in golf is the next one“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 He was a young athletic dude. Would have pounded me in the dirt probably. But I'll strike up a conversation next time I see him. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy A nice thing to do anyway. He may be a great guy and you make a new friend. He may be a jerk too, but at least you know and gave it a shot! “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 Well said Mr. downlowkey. I'm not much of a conversation starter in person anyways. Everyone says I look Mad all the time, so that might be why this guy didn't say anything. I'm an easy going guy most of the time. I'll try to smile more or something. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian A Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 On the opposite side of this, the last time I was at the range there was a guy who had an absolutely perfect swing and hitting the ball, dang near perfect every time (He was not the range pro/instructor). Would it be ok to ask for tip or to pick his brain and how would you go about it. Driver: G425 9* Hzrdus Smoke Green Small batch 6.5 70g Fairway Wood: Cobra Radspeed Big 3 Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.5 Hybrid: Cobra Aerojet 5 Wood Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.5 Irons: T200 (4-AW) AMT Black Stiff Shafts Wedges: Tour Rack 56* 60* Putter: Scotty Cameron Golo 5 Right Handed Pittsburgh, PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 On the opposite side of this, the last time I was at the range there was a guy who had an absolutely perfect swing and hitting the ball, dang near perfect every time (He was not the range pro/instructor). Would it be ok to ask for tip or to pick his brain and how would you go about it. I would wait till the have a pause in their practice. Then just strike up a convo. Like a lot of the stuff in here, I don't know why but people get weird when they get talked to or asked questions on the course. I'm open to talk to whoever, whenever but there was a guy last week asking me to use my equipment and I politely declined the first 3 times. 4th time i got a little irked. - Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Wes Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I never ask for advice and never give it. I know what works most of the time for me. I don't know if any of it is good for anyone else. Let the kid "dig it out of the dirt". If approached, I refer them to my teaching pro. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalls1588 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I also seem to get asked a lot for advice when I get paired up with random people. I always make sure to reference that every swing is different and I am not their local licensed PGA pro but try to give my best judgement. Driver- Taylormade M2 9.5 degree 2016 (Fujikara Pro60 S) Fairway Wood- Taylormade Aeroburner TP (Oban Revenge 65 S) Hybrid- Ping G 3 Hybrid (Alta 70 X) Driving Iron- Taylormade Tour Preffered UDI 3 (KBS Tour V) Irons- 4-PW Mizuno MP64 (Dynamic Gold S300) Standard length/3 degrees upright Wedges- Titleist Vokey SM5 52 F12,56 F14 Putter- Titleist Scotty Cameron Select Newport 2.5 Silver Mist edition Ball- Prov1X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I also seem to get asked a lot for advice when I get paired up with random people. I always make sure to reference that every swing is different and I am not their local licensed PGA pro but try to give my best judgement. That's why you shank the ball off the first tee... They won't ask any advice after that ha ha ha MDGolfHacker TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 So your saying you've never given a tip? Never ever? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eseay32 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I'll never give advice without being solicited by a stranger. Now my best buddy or my dad I will make a comment because I know their swings so well. If asked by someone I will give the most basic of thoughts. Not meaning like I blow them off but simple thoughts like grip or over the top suggestions. I'm not changing your entire swing bc all kinds of swings can work for all kinds of people Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy <p>Knoxville, TN 8 Hdcp PXG 0811 10.59deg loft Ping G25 3 wood Titleist 2i rescue Ping I irons +1 upright Vokey Sm5 52, 56, OdysseyRed 2Ball Fang with 1.0 super stroke</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalls1588 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 That's why you shank the ball off the first tee... They won't ask any advice after that ha ha ha MDGolfHacker I'll give that a try Driver- Taylormade M2 9.5 degree 2016 (Fujikara Pro60 S) Fairway Wood- Taylormade Aeroburner TP (Oban Revenge 65 S) Hybrid- Ping G 3 Hybrid (Alta 70 X) Driving Iron- Taylormade Tour Preffered UDI 3 (KBS Tour V) Irons- 4-PW Mizuno MP64 (Dynamic Gold S300) Standard length/3 degrees upright Wedges- Titleist Vokey SM5 52 F12,56 F14 Putter- Titleist Scotty Cameron Select Newport 2.5 Silver Mist edition Ball- Prov1X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 I put my Shanks into it every swing. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dang3rtown Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I feel weird talking to people I don't know on the range, let alone giving out tips. I have given exactly one tip to a stranger on the range. I overheard two guys planning a crawfish boil. They had a kettle but didn't know where to find a suitable sized burner. I let them know that there was a beer brewing supply store around the corner that stocked what they needed! As for "actual" on course tips, I never give swing advice but I will share course info with folks playing my local courses for their first time. Driver: G 10.5* W/Tour Stiff 65g Ping Shaft Fairway Woods: Cobra F6 13.5*, F6 Baffler 16* Irons: Split Set- i200 3i - 7i , Ft Worth 15s, 8 (36), 9 (40), PW (44) Wedges: TK, 52* & 56* Putter: Sigma G Kushin Bag: Hoofer 5way Balls: TP5/X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 If the guy is struggling and he looks like a beginner... then I might... Or you might want to strike a conversation first... wouldn't want to make a fool out of myself trying to give tips to a scratch player who's just having a bad day I would go this route also. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 My general rule is to not offer a tip unless I am asked for one. Even then I am apprehensive as what works for me generally will not work for someone else. I'm right there with this and the guys issue has to be something obvious even after he asks, miss alignment, declaration, something like that. If not I will say go take a lesson. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBones Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 If I see something that jumps out, I will ask "would you like a tip". Played with a group of randoms a while back and I could tell this guy used to be a baseball player.....strong 10 finger grip and a lot of swing speed. He was playing his driver in the middle of his stance and was hitting slicing worm burners. He accepted the tip, so I moved the ball up to inside his front heal and told him to take the same swing. The result was a high draw 290yds down the center. He was so stoked that he wanted to buy me beer after the round, but I had to get the kiddos. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Follow @GolfspyBones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eseay32 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 If I see something that jumps out, I will ask "would you like a tip". Played with a group of randoms a while back and I could tell this guy used to be a baseball player.....strong 10 finger grip and a lot of swing speed. He was playing his driver in the middle of his stance and was hitting slicing worm burners. He accepted the tip, so I moved the ball up to inside his front heal and told him to take the same swing. The result was a high draw 290yds down the center. He was so stoked that he wanted to buy me beer after the round, but I had to get the kiddos. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I would have a standing tee time with this guy and give him tips like that all the time. You'd never pay for a drink again!! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy <p>Knoxville, TN 8 Hdcp PXG 0811 10.59deg loft Ping G25 3 wood Titleist 2i rescue Ping I irons +1 upright Vokey Sm5 52, 56, OdysseyRed 2Ball Fang with 1.0 super stroke</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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