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47 minutes ago, Kenny B said:

IMO Derrick, you are still taking the club too far to the inside on the takeaway.  I fight the same thing.  If I can keep my body facing the club head until shaft parallel, then when wrists hinge the club wants to move into the correct position behind me at the top.  This helps promote left wrist flexion, and at the same time helps start the arms down before my body turns... only a fraction of a second, but it's enough to make better impact with a square face.

What's Monte say?

he hasn't recently mentioned anything about the takeaway being too inside (not saying that its not too inside, but that hasn't been something he has focused on)

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9 hours ago, Kenny B said:

IMO Derrick, you are still taking the club too far to the inside on the takeaway.  I fight the same thing.  If I can keep my body facing the club head until shaft parallel, then when wrists hinge the club wants to move into the correct position behind me at the top.  This helps promote left wrist flexion, and at the same time helps start the arms down before my body turns... only a fraction of a second, but it's enough to make better impact with a square face.

What's Monte say?

He also dumps the right shoulder. Not sure if it’s because of the more flat downswing that causes it or if it’s from the inside combined with the lateral movement.

In Monte’s NTC and some of his Instagram stuff he talk about the lead shoulder stays down while the back stays closed to the target allowing the arms to move.That doesn’t happen in flow’s swing. Also no left hip back in the downswing so no room for hands and arms

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5 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

He also dumps the right shoulder. Not sure if it’s because of the more flat downswing that causes it or if it’s from the inside combined with the lateral movement.

In Monte’s NTC and some of his Instagram stuff he talk about the lead shoulder stays down while the back stays closed to the target allowing the arms to move.That doesn’t happen in flow’s swing. Also no left hip back in the downswing so no room for hands and arms

Yep!

My tendency is to do the same unless I keep the club head in front of me as I rotate my lower half.  Then as the wrists hinge, the club moves back to where Derrick has it.  That gives me time to start the downswing as my back is still towards the target.  

When I pull the club to far to the inside, the natural reaction at the top is to start the shoulder turn first.  I tend to do that when I get tired later in a round, or I'm more sore than usual.

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17 minutes ago, Kenny B said:

Yep!

My tendency is to do the same unless I keep the club head in front of me as I rotate my lower half.  Then as the wrists hinge, the club moves back to where Derrick has it.  That gives me time to start the downswing as my back is still towards the target.  

When I pull the club to far to the inside, the natural reaction at the top is to start the shoulder turn first.  I tend to do that when I get tired later in a round, or I'm more sore than usual.

Samething I fight. My other issue is I tend to over rotate forearms and end up in similar positions. Also fight feet being struck in cement and don’t pivot correctly 

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7 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Samething I fight. My other issue is I tend to over rotate forearms and end up in similar positions. Also fight feet being struck in cement and don’t pivot correctly 

My feet are also stuck.  For years I kept both feet on the ground ala Moe Norman.  Now I have to work hard to get my left heel off the ground and knee flexing on the backswing in order to get more rotation.  Under pressure situations I revert back to flat feet and minimal rotation.

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7 minutes ago, Kenny B said:

My feet are also stuck.  For years I kept both feet on the ground ala Moe Norman.  Now I have to work hard to get my left heel off the ground and knee flexing on the backswing in order to get more rotation.  Under pressure situations I revert back to flat feet and minimal rotation.

Yup. Over emphasize and start to sway. The squeaky toy drill from AMG is a good drill that helps me get pressure to the trail side. Just need to not get fully into the trail heel too early

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Well, not exactly a post of my swing in video form... but....

I was at a local golf shop talking to the club fitter, and I was looking at my Driver metrics to see if my current gamer is set up the best for my game.  I noted a few things. 

1.  I averaged out at 93 MPH swing speed.  This is a hair higher than I was expecting... especially being on my lunch break and while I felt reasonably loose and warmed up... I was more on the front end of warmed up, than on the back end. 

2.  My AoA was positive.  I have been concerned about this, as I feared I have been losing distance due with the driver due to the AoA.  It could be improved, but it wasn't a negative number.... ever.... so I take that as a positive.  

3.  With my driver, my spin was 3500 rpm average.  Ok, now we are entering into distance robbing metrics.  Not HUGE, but higher than what is commonly considered optimal.  We toyed with a few head/shaft setups to arrive at a combo that was delivering low 2000's regularly.  Obviously, made a difference in my total yardage, and minimal impact to my dispersion.

But the epiphany came when I returned to my computer and did a quick google search on 93MPH swings to find....

image.png.ab72c4bc0044c5227ca55f65bbcea01e.png

Well, maybe not so much an epiphany, as a validation.  It just so happens that my average swing speed of 93 is exactly the average swing speed of the LPGA tour player... at least at the time this chart was developed.  Frankly, I'm happy to be swinging as fast as them... I have HUGE respect for those players... they are tremendously talented athletes and deserve more credit.  But even more validating than the swing speed, are the distances listed for each club.  That is my gap chart highlighted in yellow right there.  Ok... my margin of error from shot to shot is not nearly as tight as theirs to those average numbers... but my bag is dialed into that column.  

Now, what I do with this new-found information?  Not sure.  I was just amazed that hours of time on the range, on the course, and with launch monitors to develop my yardages... could have been accomplished with a quick google search and a screen grab.  🙂

 

 

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  • 3 months later...

Took some video today for the first time since April. I made a few changes from my lesson Wednesday with good results, but I need to emphasize those changes more when I'm on the range. I still have lots of the problems we talked about correcting, but the band-aids he gave me are definitely helping.

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4 hours ago, edingc said:

Took some video today for the first time since April. I made a few changes from my lesson Wednesday with good results, but I need to emphasize those changes more when I'm on the range. I still have lots of the problems we talked about correctly, but the band-aids he gave me are definitely helping.

Nice looking swing with a beautiful sound at impact.  How are you liking those Hogans?

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2 hours ago, Violinguy said:

Nice looking swing with a beautiful sound at impact.  How are you liking those Hogans?

Thanks. I really like the Hogan's, especially combo'ed with the SteelFibers. Really nice feeling together. I needed the extra loft to offset my delivery. I've gotten better but my bad swing still is a low spinning hook that the Hogan's help neutralize.

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  • 2 months later...

Feeling pretty good about the way my swing is going.  There's some stuff I keep tweaking but I think it's working, and most importantly, is repeatable for me.  

 

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On 3/16/2022 at 2:04 PM, Tiftaaft said:

Well, not exactly a post of my swing in video form... but....

I was at a local golf shop talking to the club fitter, and I was looking at my Driver metrics to see if my current gamer is set up the best for my game.  I noted a few things. 

1.  I averaged out at 93 MPH swing speed.  This is a hair higher than I was expecting... especially being on my lunch break and while I felt reasonably loose and warmed up... I was more on the front end of warmed up, than on the back end. 

2.  My AoA was positive.  I have been concerned about this, as I feared I have been losing distance due with the driver due to the AoA.  It could be improved, but it wasn't a negative number.... ever.... so I take that as a positive.  

3.  With my driver, my spin was 3500 rpm average.  Ok, now we are entering into distance robbing metrics.  Not HUGE, but higher than what is commonly considered optimal.  We toyed with a few head/shaft setups to arrive at a combo that was delivering low 2000's regularly.  Obviously, made a difference in my total yardage, and minimal impact to my dispersion.

But the epiphany came when I returned to my computer and did a quick google search on 93MPH swings to find....

image.png.ab72c4bc0044c5227ca55f65bbcea01e.png

Well, maybe not so much an epiphany, as a validation.  It just so happens that my average swing speed of 93 is exactly the average swing speed of the LPGA tour player... at least at the time this chart was developed.  Frankly, I'm happy to be swinging as fast as them... I have HUGE respect for those players... they are tremendously talented athletes and deserve more credit.  But even more validating than the swing speed, are the distances listed for each club.  That is my gap chart highlighted in yellow right there.  Ok... my margin of error from shot to shot is not nearly as tight as theirs to those average numbers... but my bag is dialed into that column.  

Now, what I do with this new-found information?  Not sure.  I was just amazed that hours of time on the range, on the course, and with launch monitors to develop my yardages... could have been accomplished with a quick google search and a screen grab.  🙂

 

 

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No video, but curious if anyone has ever been experienced anything similar regarding the driver.  

As background, when hitting my irons and hybrids. I use proper rotation on the backswing, then come down, good weight transfer resulting in a slight draw and posted up on my lead side. Always with good balance. 

Now the driver - full speed practice swing, same as above, good weight transfer and posted on lead side.   Full speed practice swing with tee only, same as above.  Ball on tee, I constantly fight laying back to varying degrees.  Pretty sure my backswing stays connected, arms relaxed, etc.  Same with start of down swing, but the end result, I tend to loose my spine angle at some point and don’t fully transition.   When it is slight, I get a slight fade.  I think I also fight leaning in with my back shoulder somewhere after the initial downswing which also results in a fade, or worse.  Maybe 5% end up as a full slice or strong pull/fade.

When I keep the shoulder, and consequently my weight perpendicular to the target line, the result is a nice draw, but I still don’t get the full transition to the lead side.  Usually I get a partial transfer, but often end up stepping to the left just after impact with my lead leg. So - loss of spine tilt and lay back. 

Ironically, there are a few videos posted previously where it looks like they lose spine tilt in the follow thru and start leaning to their left after contact.  Mine seems worse causing that lead leg step to the left, perpendicular to the target line.

The real irony is my drives are usually very good and 85% FIR with decent distance for my SS.  I had surgery 1 1/2 years ago for 2 meniscus flap tears in my back knee, and feel like I’m headed down that road again. Seems my muscle memory has 100% retention.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, GaryF said:

Now the driver - full speed practice swing, same as above, good weight transfer and posted on lead side.   Full speed practice swing with tee only, same as above.  Ball on tee, I constantly fight laying back to varying degrees.  Pretty sure my backswing stays connected, arms relaxed, etc.  Same with start of down swing, but the end result, I tend to loose my spine angle at some point and don’t fully transition.   When it is slight, I get a slight fade.  I think I also fight leaning in with my back shoulder somewhere after the initial downswing which also results in a fade, or worse.  Maybe 5% end up as a full slice or strong pull/fade.

Two things. First no fear of results and second practice swings aren’t better than your actual swing 

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Couple recent ones from Tobacco Road. 7 iron into par 5 and a cut driver. 

 

 

 

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Never saw this post before, like it.

This is from late last year, kind of want to get this up and get something towards the end of this year same angle see any major differences. My swing in this video felt really good that day.

 

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It was a gorgeous day to video some swings.

 

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17 minutes ago, bens197 said:

It was a gorgeous day to video some swings.

 

 

... While I hate you in contest threads I really hate you when you post your swings. 🤥  Honestly they are pretty much how I want to swing but can never quite achieve. More often than not my degenerative disc forces me to use more body than I would like to protect itself and it is something I am constantly trying to stay on top of. Creating tension between my hips and shoulders is a recipe for back trouble. 

... One thing I would have most looking at this swing is pausing it at impact, and you can see bens hips are open and his shoulders are relatively square. I see so many swings where the hips and shoulders are square at impact. This is a great swing to picture when working on yours. 

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1 hour ago, chisag said:

 

... While I hate you in contest threads I really hate you when you post your swings. 🤥  Honestly they are pretty much how I want to swing but can never quite achieve. More often than not my degenerative disc forces me to use more body than I would like to protect itself and it is something I am constantly trying to stay on top of. Creating tension between my hips and shoulders is a recipe for back trouble. 

... One thing I would have most looking at this swing is pausing it at impact, and you can see bens hips are open and his shoulders are relatively square. I see so many swings where the hips and shoulders are square at impact. This is a great swing to picture when working on yours. 

Thanks Sam...today was definitely a good ball striking day.  

I had an a-ha moment this summer while scrolling through instagram...I found Drew Cooper whose swing I am in awe of.  I was really struggling with getting to my left side and I was trying to find out how I could tell my arms and torso to communicate with my lower body.  

It worked and the soft cuts became medium draws.  

As far as the other stuff goes...I still have 20 years on you so at the point I reach your age, I hope I can move through the ball similar to you.

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