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I golfed with a gentleman today who claimed that golf shafts "wear out" and need to be replaced every 4 years (assuming 50 rounds per year).

 

Can anyone (equipment junkies, club builders, club fitters, etc.) please chime in with your thoughts on this?

 

Is this a valid claim?


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I think he might be full of ....

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Tell him to stop playing hickory shafts and to start using today's graphite and steel shafts.

 

I am not an expert and have never evaluated the playing characteristics of shafts after x number of round but I am pretty confident that and amateur player will not notice any difference in performance

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It was my understanding that a shaft will only wear out from cracks and if it has been stored at a freezing cold temperature.

 

I certainly don't claim to be any sort of expert on the subject though and am curious to see what others have to say.

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Graphite does break down from being repeatedly flexed. Steel, no. But graphite absolutely does. Same as composite equipment in other sports. That's why Rory changes his shafts at least once a year. Lots of tour pros do their graphite with the same shaft.


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Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
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XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
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Graphite does break down from being repeatedly flexed. Steel, no. But graphite absolutely does. Same as composite equipment in other sports. That's why Rory changes his shafts at least once a year. Lots of tour pros do their graphite with the same shaft.

 

Graphite will degrade eventually (mostly due to UV radiation) but the amount of stress needed to cause the plys to break down is generally a lot more than the average swing. I've got some graphite shafts that are over 10 years old and still perfectly playable.

I don't dispute that many pros change out their shafts on a regular basis, but they are probably paying zilch for the privilege and even if they aren't, they normally have enough coin not to worry about the cost.

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I've read stories about PGA Tour players using the same exact driver shaft for years.  Given how much practice and playing they do, I would say definitely no average player should worry about a shaft "wearing down"


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:ping-small: G410 LST 14.5* VA Vylyn 75FIVE
:titelist-small: 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X
:mizuno-small: MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X
:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-PW Oban CT 115 X(-)
:titelist-small: Vokey SM7 49 F - 54 S - 59 D
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I doubt that any of us junkies on this site would need to worry about using equipment through it's wear cycle.

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I golfed with a gentleman today who claimed that golf shafts "wear out" and need to be replaced every 4 years (assuming 50 rounds per year).

 

Can anyone (equipment junkies, club builders, club fitters, etc.) please chime in with your thoughts on this?

 

Is this a valid claim?

Sounds he's full of shafts

 

 

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over time yes a shaft will start to become more flex then it used to be. tour players change out there shafts like every six months. normal golfers who don't swing as fast ware out in year or two. we don't need shaft changes that much or if u buy new clubs each year. tour players swing there clubs 2-3x more then we do in a whole year. grips always replaced every 4-3months. some of my grips already need replacing and had em for a couple

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over time yes a shaft will start to become more flex then it used to be. tour players change out there shafts like every six months. normal golfers who don't swing as fast ware out in year or two. we don't need shaft changes that much or if u buy new clubs each year. tour players swing there clubs 2-3x more then we do in a whole year. grips always replaced every 4-3months. some of my grips already need replacing and had em for a couple

months

Do you have a source for any of the information you just provided? Because I've read plenty of stories about just the opposite in regards to tour players changing shafts

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:ping-small: G410 Plus Ping 9* VA Nemesys 65FIVE
:ping-small: G410 LST 14.5* VA Vylyn 75FIVE
:titelist-small: 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X
:mizuno-small: MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X
:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-PW Oban CT 115 X(-)
:titelist-small: Vokey SM7 49 F - 54 S - 59 D
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Left Hand orientation

:ping-small: G410 SFT driver 

:cobra-small: F Max 5 wood

:ping-small:  9 wood
:ping-small:  410  Hybrids 22*, 26*
:wilson-small: C300 4i-GP
:cleveland-small:  Wedges RTX 3.0: 52*, 56*
:ping-small: EYE 2 Wedge 60*

:odyssey-small: O Works putter
:918457628_PrecisionPro:NX9-HD

:CaddyTek: - 4 Wheel 
:footjoy-small: - too many shoes to list and so many to buy

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Left Hand orientation

:ping-small: G410 SFT driver 

:cobra-small: F Max 5 wood

:ping-small:  9 wood
:ping-small:  410  Hybrids 22*, 26*
:wilson-small: C300 4i-GP
:cleveland-small:  Wedges RTX 3.0: 52*, 56*
:ping-small: EYE 2 Wedge 60*

:odyssey-small: O Works putter
:918457628_PrecisionPro:NX9-HD

:CaddyTek: - 4 Wheel 
:footjoy-small: - too many shoes to list and so many to buy

:1590477705_SunMountain:

:SuperSpeed: Official Tester 2020   Beginning Driver Speed  - 78

 

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I had a set of dynamic gold x100 in play for about 15 years. They where in 3 different sets of heads and played great in all 3 sets. Personally it's the heads on the short irons that wear out hence the need to change clubs. Today's manufacturing process means that shafts last longer than the shafts of yesteryear. That being said I had an interesting test recently with an assistant pro who hit an old hickory mashie the same distance as his callaway 6 iron and said it felt great.

 

 

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I've never heard this and often the opposite that the shafts have a much longer life than the heads.  The "experts" I've talked to say the part that wears out are grooves and if you hit a lot off of mats that the lie angles of the heads can drift over time, especially with forged heads.

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3W: Cleveland FL3W, Miyasaki 43g Stiff Shaft

4 Hybrid: Taylormade SLDR Fujikura? Stiff Shaft

4i: Mizuno MP-H5, KBS Tour C-Taper Lite 110 S Shaft 

5i-PW: Mizuno MP-25, KBS Tour C-Taper Lite 110 S Shaft

Wedges: 50, 54, 58 degree Mizuno T7 Blue Anodized, Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex Shaft

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Why do you have a club that long to begin with?!?!

 

Club Ho is life!

 

If you have a driver over two years, you're missing out on at least 1.7 yards. Time to sack up and buy a new driver! Shafts wearing out? Sounds like a personal problem to me. I have no idea if a shaft can wear out because I haven't had a club in my bag for over two years. 

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I never keep my clubs long enough to find out if they will wear out, my swing speed though is roughly in line with the Tour swing speeds so if I actually played/practiced more than once every two weeks I might look into this

 

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