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I just read the article posted about the new JP Wedges from Titleist......for the "common golfer" this concept is rubbish in my opinion. For example, the fitting and three wedges costs me $2000 plus my airfare and lodging to fly to California (probably another $1500). So now I'm up to $1000 / wedge hahahaha.

 

Why can't the golf industry produce more affordable products? The companies argue that the materials and technology needed to produce the clubs is so much more expensive. But when the average bag life of a wedge for players is a year or two, my Lord that is ridiculous. Not when Titleist is constantly behind the game in advances (for example, moving the weight in a wedge to shift cg).

 

Plus Bob Vokey is the man at Titleist for wedges. Now if you came to us and said we have a great forged wedge with a fitting option for $100 each, people would listen 👍. The biggest problem in this whole thing is Titleist blew hundreds of thousands of dollars for several years of R&D to come out with a wedge line for the top 5%.

 

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I've been waiting for this thread to pop up.   This is like getting mad at luxury and exotic car makers for not producing cheap cars.   Spoiler alert: You're not in their target market

For the life of me I've never understood the concept of the "average golfer" or the " common golfer."   So this is $2k for the experience, it is what it is. It doesn't mean you can't buy, or OEM'

How anyone can make a judgement about these wedges without hitting them is beyond me...     I'm gonna quote Steve Martin. "Criticize things you don't know about. Be Oblong and have your knees remove

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This is very much like the PXG level of equipment. I would never spend that on wedges as I can get excellent quality for 150 a wedge or less. But some people will pay this amount and that is up to them 

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Hybrids: :cobra-small: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX

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As I posted in the blog, I think it's a great thing.  Does that mean, I'll sign up next week.  Nope, can't afford it right now. .  But I'll go to my oft used car reference.  Just because I cant' afford a specially ordered BMW or Mercedes with a lot of personal touches, doesn't mean I don't appreciate it or they should not sell them, because I can't have it.  Or I recentl inquired with my Tailor about the cost of a custom made suit from him, he makes them in his shop by hand.   It was about $1800, more than I pay for my typical suit.  But nice to know it's there if I need it and I'm sure it would fit me a hell of a lot better than the one from Nordstrom.  Just as these wedges from JP would fit me a lot better than the Vokey SM6, which by the way, are incredible enough!!

 

I think what you're paying for here is a personal one one one customized experienced not offered to this level anywhere else.  So I have no problem with the cost or the offerings.   I hope it's a success for Titleist and they continue to do it where I might consider it.  

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I've been waiting for this thread to pop up.

 

This is like getting mad at luxury and exotic car makers for not producing cheap cars.

 

Spoiler alert: You're not in their target market

Damn!!  You beat me to the luxury car comp, while I was typing...LOL

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:titelist-small: TSi2 16.5 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft

:ping-small:  G410 FW 7 Alta CB R flex 

:ping-small: G410 Hybrid 26 degree Alta CB R Flex

:titelist-small: T100S/T200 Combo 5-7 T100S 8-P T200 TT Black Oynx R Flex

:titelist-small: SM7 54.08 F 58.12 K 

:ping-small: Heppler Tomcast 

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By this logic, we should also hate public golf courses that charge a lot to play on.  Damn you Pebble Beach!

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:ping-small: G410 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X
:titelist-small: 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X
:mizuno-small: MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X
:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-PW Oban CT 115 X(-)
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By this logic, we should also hate public golf courses that charge a lot to play on.  Damn you Pebble Beach!

I do hate that  :D

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:titelist-small: TSi2 16.5 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft

:ping-small:  G410 FW 7 Alta CB R flex 

:ping-small: G410 Hybrid 26 degree Alta CB R Flex

:titelist-small: T100S/T200 Combo 5-7 T100S 8-P T200 TT Black Oynx R Flex

:titelist-small: SM7 54.08 F 58.12 K 

:ping-small: Heppler Tomcast 

:titelist-small: ProV1X Play number 12

 

 

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Am I the target audience for these wedges?  Hell no!!  I wish I were though; either good enough to be able to tell the difference between this fitted wedge and my current SCORs, or rich enough to not care and buy them anyway.

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I think it's great, why not if you have the means, there are plenty of cheap/ affordable/ OEM options, this is just another custom option, @jlukes good comparison to the exotic/ luxury car market.

I'm in the plumbing industry and trust me when I tell you, there is the under $100 toilet all the way to the over $5000 toilet.

 

 

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I'm in the plumbing industry and trust me when I tell you, there is the under $100 toilet all the way to the over $5000 toilet.

 

 

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I'd hate to be the custom fitter for the $5,000 toilet line...if you get my drift  :D

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:titelist-small: TSi2 Kuro Kage 50g R Flex

:titelist-small: TSi2 16.5 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft

:ping-small:  G410 FW 7 Alta CB R flex 

:ping-small: G410 Hybrid 26 degree Alta CB R Flex

:titelist-small: T100S/T200 Combo 5-7 T100S 8-P T200 TT Black Oynx R Flex

:titelist-small: SM7 54.08 F 58.12 K 

:ping-small: Heppler Tomcast 

:titelist-small: ProV1X Play number 12

 

 

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Huge let down! Just like TM "irons" week.

 

 

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How is this a let down?

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:ping-small: G410 LST 9* VA Nemesys 65X
:ping-small: G410 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X
:titelist-small: 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X
:mizuno-small: MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X
:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-PW Oban CT 115 X(-)
:titelist-small: Vokey SM7 50F - 54S - 59D
:scotty-small: Phantom X 5.5 (2021)
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Space ships man. Hollow... nothing like his original stuff. It's Titleist putting JP on something to sell it. Just don't care for it.

 

 

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Space ships man. Hollow... nothing like his original stuff. It's Titleist putting JP on something to sell it. Just don't care for it.

 

 

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Have you hit them? How do you know how they feel?  He wouldn't put his name on it if he didn't believe in the product.

 

If you read the articles, they definitely aren't "putting JP on something to sell it."

 

If you don't like how it looks, that is fine - but don't question JP's integrity or the feel of the club without understanding everything first

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In my :mizuno-small: BR-D4 Stand Bag

:ping-small: G410 LST 9* VA Nemesys 65X
:ping-small: G410 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X
:titelist-small: 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X
:mizuno-small: MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X
:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-PW Oban CT 115 X(-)
:titelist-small: Vokey SM7 50F - 54S - 59D
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How anyone can make a judgement about these wedges without hitting them is beyond me...  

 

I'm gonna quote Steve Martin. "Criticize things you don't know about. Be Oblong and have your knees removed"

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Fairway -  Tour Edge Exotics CB2 15° Grafalloy Prolite 35  S

Fairway - Tour Edge Exotics CB2 18° Grafalloy Prolite 35  S

Hybrid - :srixon-small: ZX 18° GD Tour IZ S

2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 18° AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

Irons -  :srixon-small: ZX7  Aerotech SteelFiber 110icw  4-Pw 1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX Zipcore Raw 50° 54° 58°  TTGDTI S400 1° flat

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You got it buddy. Just not sure why you feel the need to always discredit everything I say, by personally attacking my opinion. I was looking for his original stuff this ain't it. I do not like it, end of story.

 

 

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