null Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Just stupidly stunning. Rare to see someone have their left brain and right brain so in sync with eachother Edit: I was referring to the wedges. Edit again: Ok, and SZ too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 IMG_4229.PNG In contrast, I am big time. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I will say, you do look stunning in gray. - Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY ZINGER Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Just stupidly stunning. Rare to see someone have their left brain and right brain so in sync with eachother Edit: I was referring to the wedges. Edit again: Ok, and SZ too Thought this was my autobiography forward. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalls1588 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Thank you, Sir. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Wow, great piece and an incredible story! Driver- Taylormade M2 9.5 degree 2016 (Fujikara Pro60 S) Fairway Wood- Taylormade Aeroburner TP (Oban Revenge 65 S) Hybrid- Ping G 3 Hybrid (Alta 70 X) Driving Iron- Taylormade Tour Preffered UDI 3 (KBS Tour V) Irons- 4-PW Mizuno MP64 (Dynamic Gold S300) Standard length/3 degrees upright Wedges- Titleist Vokey SM5 52 F12,56 F14 Putter- Titleist Scotty Cameron Select Newport 2.5 Silver Mist edition Ball- Prov1X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow0861 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Those would go great with my gold plated irons I just got from PXG! I will not knock Titleist or JP for this, but there is absolutely no way I would ever spend $2000 on custom wedges when I can get a whole set of irons fit professionally for less than that. I just can't see paying that for the most oft replaced clubs in my bag. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpyC Posted May 7, 2017 SPY VIP Share Posted May 7, 2017 Those would go great with my gold plated irons I just got from PXG! I will not knock Titleist or JP for this, but there is absolutely no way I would ever spend $2000 on custom wedges when I can get a whole set of irons fit professionally for less than that. I just can't see paying that for the most oft replaced clubs in my bag. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I love the "I'm not going to knock them, but..." basically I replace my wedges too often to spend that much on them. If there's no way you'd ever spend that on a set of wedges, then you're not the person Titleist is after. I don't get why it's hard for people to really embrace this dynamic w/o sliding in comments like "there's no way I'd ever pay that..." Either buy them or don't - without prejudice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpc2828 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I love the "I'm not going to knock them, but..." basically I replace my wedges too often to spend that much on them. If there's no way you'd ever spend that on a set of wedges, then you're not the person Titleist is after. I don't get why it's hard for people to really embrace this dynamic w/o sliding in comments like "there's no way I'd ever pay that..." Either buy them or don't - without prejudice. Yeah i really am not getting all the negativity regarding the price, the actual club maker fits you and personally builds these for you, does no one get this is an experience and not just 3 wedges???? If you want 3 off the rack wedges there are plenty of options. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 The Beginning:https://www.mygolfspy.com/james-patrick-jp-wedges/ Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Thanks for posting that Zinger. Those pictures are incredible. After seeing that post and hearing about the experience he will give individuals at the JP Experience, I don't see how anybody can call it anything but a once in a lifetime chance. I fully expect this to soon to be a several month waiting list and probably go up in price. Maybe that's just me being naive, but I think it's incredible. G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downlowkey Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Bespoke suits come at a hefty price due to the dearth of providers. In return for your money the world's finest tailors select the finest fabrics to produce a garment of unparalleled quality and fit; unique to your personal geometry and tastes. It's a time intensive process requiring knowledge and skills earned through tens of thousands of hours experience. None of the production responsibility can be delegated to underlings so most of the cost is the tailor's substantial time investment. None of them are wealthy. Are you starting to identify any parallels? But comparing JP to a bespoke tailor is a slight because you can find bespoke tailors in just about any metro around the globe but there is only one JP. He is the Da Vinci of golf. We are all very lucky that his passion for personalization lives on in the JP fitting experience. I believe his vision is the future of short game systems, full stop. He's passionate, genuine, thoughtful, personally demanding and unquestionably generous simply for sharing his genius in one on one sessions. His entire life's work has been devoted to making _you_ a better golfer! Bandying about callous personal opinions regarding the perceived inflated value of the golden child's honest blood, sweat and tears serves only to discourage other unknown visionaries from hanging up their own shingle. Makes me nauseous to hear $150 price point comparisons in the same breath as JP's work. He's going to be a busy man and it's rightfully deserved. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy PXG___0811 X 9* - Mitsubishi Diamana s60 Limited X Cobra___S9-1 Pro 15* - Matrix Ozik XCON 7 S Adams___XTD Forged 3i - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S Adams___CMB 4-PW - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S KZG___Tri-Tour 50.08__54.10__58.12 - Accra iCWT 2.0-95i S Nike___Method Converge B1-01 (copper insert) Maxfli___'23 Tour X "The most important shot in golf is the next one“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmith123 Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 So after reading those pieces about the beginnings of JP I will say that I jumped to conclusions a bit. I'm willing to admit I was wrong about saying this is just another gimmick from a manufacturer. The story is compelling and I don't blame JP for taking advantage of Titleist's offer and take advantage of their resources. Even though I will say the price point is still, not unreasonable but too steep, I can understand the draw to it. The materials are better then the Vokeys and it is a face to face system for getting a custom product before it is produced. So I wish them the best, I just won't be throwing my money at it any time soon. Sent from my Sprint LG G5 mobile device Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I agree Burk. Aren't those originals freaking sweeeet? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Bespoke suits come at a hefty price due to the dearth of providers. In return for your money the world's finest tailors select the finest fabrics to produce a garment of unparalleled quality and fit; unique to your personal geometry and tastes. It's a time intensive process requiring knowledge and skills earned through tens of thousands of hours experience. None of the production responsibility can be delegated to underlings so most of the cost is the tailor's substantial time investment. None of them are wealthy. Are you starting to identify any parallels? But comparing JP to a bespoke tailor is a slight because you can find bespoke tailors in just about any metro around the globe but there is only one JP. He is the Da Vinci of golf. We are all very lucky that his passion for personalization lives on in the JP fitting experience. I believe his vision is the future of short game systems, full stop. He's passionate, genuine, thoughtful, personally demanding and unquestionably generous simply for sharing his genius in one on one sessions. His entire life's work has been devoted to making _you_ a better golfer! Bandying about callous personal opinions regarding the perceived inflated value of the golden child's honest blood, sweat and tears serves only to discourage other unknown visionaries from hanging up their own shingle. Makes me nauseous to hear $150 price point comparisons in the same breath as JP's work. He's going to be a busy man and it's rightfully deserved. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Post of the year so far right there! Well said downlowkey! What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I wasn't arguing price, $350 ea for an Edel (forged) and whatever the fitting cost is. So for 3 wedges only your looking at $1050, I'm guessing fitting is around $350? So $1400, the extra $600 for JP to personally build you some wedges is well worth it. Just please - please -please have a custom studio like Scotty sometime in the future! I too jumped the gun in judging. But if you read Zinger's articles you'll see why. His original work is what I fell in love with. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I'm actually considering selling my house to go get fit. I wonder how many hits his new site has? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Some of the replies in the blog post are borderline comical - just because someone is offering a wedge experience doesn't mean golf is "dying." It's sort of the cum hoc, ergo propter hoc (with this, therefore because of this) fallacy. People forget that a $2,000 wedge experience doesn't mean less expensive wedges will be impossible to buy... Motel 6, Ritz-Carlton or somewhere in the middle - take your pick based on what the spirit wants and the wallet permits. What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Who's gonna be the first tour pro with these in the bag? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 The more I think of it, it sounds like one hell of a vacation to me. You guys talked some sense into me. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Some of the replies in the blog post are borderline comical - just because someone is offering a wedge experience doesn't mean golf is "dying." It's sort of the cum hoc, ergo propter hoc (with this, therefore because of this) fallacy. People forget that a $2,000 wedge experience doesn't mean less expensive wedges will be impossible to buy... wedges11.jpg Motel 6, Ritz-Carlton or somewhere in the middle - take your pick based on what the spirit wants and the wallet permits. It's inflation. No big deal. Yugo or a Ferrari. Everyone wants a Ferrari. - Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brjpool Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Well everyone else send to have already made all the valid points. I'll just say I wish had all the disposable income in the world to buy all the golf stuff I want but I don't be satisfied with more regular wedges Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Bryan Pool Ping G20 Driver Bombtech hybrids Ping G20 green dot irons/wedges Cleveland Huntington beach 6 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY ZINGER Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 The more I think of it, it sounds like one hell of a vacation to me. You guys talked some sense into me. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy We should start a GoFundMe page for Shank. I have a feeling we'll need another one for a plastic surgeon to remove the perma-smile! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 but I'm not worthy of such a cause. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY ZINGER Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 For those truly interested in the fitting experience, raw and uncut, my friend Ryan will detail his comprehensive session out at TPI. He will have tons of photographs, video, it was unreal the work he put into it. Sure the video and pics by Titleist are nice, but it's fun to see uncut snapshots from the perspective of a participant. If you have interest in the process, you'll know exactly what you can expect from his pictorial journey. At the time of my fitting, pictures were not permitted. However, he completed his about a month later and went absolutely hog wild. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 It's inflation. No big deal. Yugo or a Ferrari. Everyone wants a Ferrari. - Alan Years ago, when you purchased a new Corvette, they gave you a Yugo also. Just sayin'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Great to see this option available to those that can afford it. I'm just not there yet. Maybe someday. Until then, I'm OK with my vokey Spin mills until they get replaced in the next few weeks with SM6 or RTX 3 wedges. MDGolfHacker TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 How much is this going to change the Wedge game? I mean the "pros" use "stock" clubs right? Obviously not stock, but you and I can walk into a store and get something very similar to what they use, and heck most companies let you customize them. Are more companies going to find their "JP" to compete with them? Can't wait to see how this changes the game. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dang3rtown Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 How much is this going to change the Wedge game? I mean the "pros" use "stock" clubs right? Obviously not stock, but you and I can walk into a store and get something very similar to what they use, and heck most companies let you customize them. Are more companies going to find their "JP" to compete with them? Can't wait to see how this changes the game. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Great question Alan! Yeah, the pros use "stock" much like the old JPs were "stock" Vokeys with just a few mods... J/K! Customized clubs but something any good machinist could conceivable produce with a drill and a bench grinder. These new JPs are another animal. Wedges are interesting, there have been so many attempts to use modern technology but the best stuff in the game, more than for any other club is still just good old forged steel with a shape that hasn't changed much in 60 years! Maybe JP's the guy to do it! Driver: G 10.5* W/Tour Stiff 65g Ping Shaft Fairway Woods: Cobra F6 13.5*, F6 Baffler 16* Irons: Split Set- i200 3i - 7i , Ft Worth 15s, 8 (36), 9 (40), PW (44) Wedges: TK, 52* & 56* Putter: Sigma G Kushin Bag: Hoofer 5way Balls: TP5/X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Like I said, wedges are my favorite club, so this is fricking exciting even if I wasn't onboard at first. I am now. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Hog Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 LOVE the looks of these JP wedges but spending $2K for 3 of them is insane IMO. That said, it's why PXG has been able to survive and thrive the way they have - there are consumers out there who believe that particular product is going to deliver on some sort of tangible benefit to them. I've played both the PXG 0311 and 0311T and re-sold both sets because they didn't do anything more than my set of $700 mainstream irons. I can't see these JP wedges doing anything more than making your golf bag look crazy sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stage1350 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 You will still run into varying turf conditions as you travel and as weather conditions change. I know my sharper leading edge wedges which work great in dry, firm conditions tend to bury and stick when I move on to softer, wetter conditions. Your wedges can compensate and be an all-purpose grind set for the most conditions. But what if your conditions don't mimic SoCal? I hope (and assume) that JP is conpensating for those living in to softer soil of the Ohio valley and the clay of the Midwest as well as the packed quartz of Arizona. I'm reminded of the Snake Eyes sand iron of the 1990s. No wedge is perfect for every condition, but a great compromise will maximize your ability to make shots. I think having someone like JP grinding your wedges will definitely help. But it, in itself, will not revolutionize your wedge game. A grind, properly applied, will absolutely help. But you can still do a lot with a 1988 Cleveland RTG or a 1958 Wilson Staff Dynapower. Both wedges have Tour validation and history for a reason. I wish JP well. We'll see how these wedges do in the market and if they see any Tour success. Tour Issue Callaway GBB Epic Sub Zero 9° / Graphite Design P9003 TX OR Tour Issue Taylormade M1 430 9.5° / Graphite Design P9003 TX Tour Issue Callaway XHot 3 Deep 13° / Graphite Design DI-10 TX Tour Issue Callaway XHot 3 Deep 13° / Project X T1100 95g 6.5 Tour Issue Titleist 915Hd 17.5° / Graphite Design DI-105 X Tour Issue Callaway BB Alpha 815 18° / Graphite Design DI-105 X Scratch AR-1 v2 3-PW / Tour Issue Dynamic Gold X7 Raw Bridgestone J15CB 3-PW / Tour Issue Dynamic Gold X7 Scratch FIT 54°DS and 60°DS / Tour Issue Dynamic Gold X7 Bettinardi H2 Forged 54° and 60° / Tour Issue Dynamic Gold X7 Rotating 8802 style putters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou mcconaughey Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Golf is hurting. It's expensive to play and the equipment is way to expensive. To me if you want to grow the game and get kids involved and young adults to try the game and get hook all you have to do is roll back prices. That's for play and equipment Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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