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I have walked with my new 3 wheel Caddytek every Tuesday since December. Now I am considering adding Friday to my walking agenda, at least until it gets too hot.


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Even if I ride, I prefer to let my partner drive and if we aren’t playing cart golf, I grab a couple clubs and usually walk to my ball. It gives me more time to calm my thinking. Drive up - jump out - and hit ... isn’t as enjoyable at me.

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On 5/28/2020 at 9:41 AM, chisag said:

 

... That's a shame you feel an age stigma. After my first back surgery in 95 I picked up an electric cart per surgeons orders (a golfer himself)  I can easily say best golf decision of my life. After carrying my bag almost exclusively it was instant love. I was 42 and never thought twice about how it looked or what anyone else thought, I just knew this would be as close to having a caddy for every round I would ever get. The freedom to keep your posture while you walk is not only great for your body in general, it keeps me fresh for the back 9.  

So that friend of mine got a new MotoCaddy M7 a couple of weeks ago and gave me his old Bat Caddy. It's beat up, but I'm an electric push(less) cart convert!

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So that friend of mine got a new MotoCaddy M7 a couple of weeks ago and gave me his old Bat Caddy. It's beat up, but I'm an electric push(less) cart convert!


I’m seriously considering buying a motorized cart, I’m just afraid I wouldn’t use it in the middle of summer here.


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After too many rounds with clubs on my back (both my own and others), my back finally gave out.  And after pushing for about 15 more years, I finally got a powered trolley.  I find myself playing far more emergency nines than I used to now.

And I will not let my daughters carry their bags.  Your back is too important.

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i wonder if anyone has done studies on the back issue......i find it odd that carrying a light bag would be worse than actually playing the sport itself.....the rotation of the spine in golf must be 1000x more detrimental to the body than carrying a lightweight bag....

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3 hours ago, Tsecor said:

i wonder if anyone has done studies on the back issue......i find it odd that carrying a light bag would be worse than actually playing the sport itself.....the rotation of the spine in golf must be 1000x more detrimental to the body than carrying a lightweight bag....

 

... As explained by my spine surgeon, It is virtually impossible to have correct posture while carrying a bag of clubs. We tilt our spine to an unnatural angle which puts a lot of stress on the lower back in order to carry the load, especially going up inclines. He did say some have better posture than others depending on their core strength but nobody walks with a perfectly erect spine carrying clubs. Fwiw, some who use push carts do the same thing, assume unnatural spine angles to push up hill although with the right handle height and technique it is possible to keep a perfect posture while pushing if you make it a priority. And obviously an electric cart is like having a caddy so perfect posture is easy if you are diligent. 

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3 hours ago, chisag said:

 

... As explained by my spine surgeon, It is virtually impossible to have correct posture while carrying a bag of clubs. We tilt our spine to an unnatural angle which puts a lot of stress on the lower back in order to carry the load, especially going up inclines. He did say some have better posture than others depending on their core strength but nobody walks with a perfectly erect spine carrying clubs. Fwiw, some who use push carts do the same thing, assume unnatural spine angles to push up hill although with the right handle height and technique it is possible to keep a perfect posture while pushing if you make it a priority. And obviously an electric cart is like having a caddy so perfect posture is easy if you are diligent. 

maybe ill ride more often 🙂   ive already had 1 back surgery so imma need to preserve my back for longevity

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12 hours ago, Tsecor said:

i wonder if anyone has done studies on the back issue......i find it odd that carrying a light bag would be worse than actually playing the sport itself.....the rotation of the spine in golf must be 1000x more detrimental to the body than carrying a lightweight bag....

Dr. Neil Wolkodoff did.  I can't find the study itself to link it, but plenty of articles cite it.

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32 minutes ago, HardcoreLooper said:

Dr. Neil Wolkodoff did.  I can't find the study itself to link it, but plenty of articles cite it.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/critics-of-college-players-usi

 

... Great link from a man that spent years in the trenches. You, not the Doc. 👍

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Several guys with back issues put their bags on a cart then walk the course. The bags on the cart are then driven by a partner.


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I'll walk when I can. I have the Alphard V2 and it's been a game changer for me. Walking upright, not pushing my cart up hills, I don't feel tired anymore. I rode last weekend at a VERY hilly course with long traverses between holes and kind of happy I did - funny part is carts were included, but the starter told us as we were teeing off, no one beforehand...  "cart path only", I would have walked!

 

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On 3/10/2021 at 3:09 PM, Camille Bissarro said:

So that friend of mine got a new MotoCaddy M7 a couple of weeks ago and gave me his old Bat Caddy. It's beat up, but I'm an electric push(less) cart convert!

I play with a buddy who has had one for years now.  He's late 40's, been using for years.  I think it's great.  I'm 42 and I keep eyeing one every time I'm at the golf store.  But I just can't afford it.  Putting money into new iron set instead this year.

I like walking as much as I can.  But sometimes when it's the guys, it power carts and beers style golfing.

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Electric Pushcarts are the major method for most UK golfers to get their clubs around the course. 

My club has 750 members in total, about 50 of them are regular bag carriers, maybe 30 in total are usually golf cart users and everyone else has a trolley with probably 90% of them being electric. 

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On 3/24/2021 at 9:49 AM, Jedaigeki said:

Electric Pushcarts are the major method for most UK golfers to get their clubs around the course. 

My club has 750 members in total, about 50 of them are regular bag carriers, maybe 30 in total are usually golf cart users and everyone else has a trolley with probably 90% of them being electric. 

Same in Germany, riding carts are very rare and when I visited I used a motocaddy. Since I am going to be testing the Motocaddy M7 for MGS I will be walking a lot more rounds even in the SoCal summer heat! The biggest issue I have with walking in the summer is that I have to carry all the water I drink (sometimes I will go through 3-4 liters in one round) so with an electric cart it should be easier.

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I walk almost exclusively, when I ride it is usually when I score a late tee time with no one in front of me for several times so I can fly. I actually went out a week ago on a somewhat rainy day, I was the only one on the course - go figure. I played 18 holes in 1 1/2 hours and shot my handicap. I was relaxed and not rushed nor did I have to wait. If I had been walking I would've played 9 in about an hour but the full 18 was worth the extra $ and getting wet when no one else wanted to was a bonus. I love when I can experience the true peacefulness of the course.

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I always walk when I can, and I carry. But I mainly use a Ping Moonlite to carry all 14 of my clubs and gear. I usually carry a couple of pieces of fruit, and a 750ml water bottle, which I'll fill up at the turn at 9. All my clubs have graphite shafts so that saves a wee bit on the weight, but not much.

Wife says that if I want to keep playing golf, I should walk and carry, and she'll buy me a push cart as my 50 year bday present 🤣.

As a caveat, I don't play much, maybe get 15 18-hole rounds, and about 20 9-hole short course rounds during our season (Mid May - End of Sept), so it's not that much a strain.

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I only drive under duress. Here in .au, it's usually only the old, injured or infirm, or the lazy who drive.

When it's 40 degrees, sunny, and the wind is so hot that it melts your airway, I fit into all of those categories. Otherwise I don't fit any and walking is good for the mind and body... so I walk, happily.

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I walk when the option is available.  There are a lot of courses near me that mandate riding stating it speeds up play so there is no option to walk.

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In the past ten years I've had right knee surgery and shortly after I got close to 75% recovered I turned my left ankle inside out and broke the leg. For some reason I got really out of shape and gained 100 pounds. Up until then I walked all the time except for outings. Even then, my father in law drove the cart and I walked... it was sort of a motorized caddie. The two courses I play the most you could call hilly..... 

How about walking this course - or would you even play it? (Note that all of the greens are elevated to some extent and have given me US Open type roll back/off and this is a muni! 

First hole straight par 5, all downhill\side hill with a couple flat target areas. Elevation change is 75 foot downhill unless you go right - then it's into a valley that's another 50 foot below the green and you are looking at a 190 yd plus uphill carry tot he green ( the hillside funnels down to #17 fairway that we will talk about shortly). Second hole is a par 5 relatively level for the first 230 yds then drops off 25 feet in 20 yards, turns ~30* right and goes up the hill 250 yds to the green, 75 foot elevation gain once you start uphill. Third is all downhill par 5 90* dogleg left 275-300 yds and 120 foot elevation drop to the corner fairway. From the corner to the green is downhill another 15 feet to a slightly elevated green. Holes 4 - 13 are nominally up\down tee to green 20-50 feet. Hole 14 is a ~160 yard par 3, the green is 20 feet above the tee but plays over a 60 foot deep valley. Hole 15 plays 300 yards all up hill.  There is is about 260 yard carry with 100 foot elevation increase from tee to the sort of level fairway area. Hole 17 is 300 yard dogleg left. 150 yard forced carry over a tree filled gully to the fairway, 50 foot elevation drop. You can try to cut the dogleg but it's a blind high draw over trees to a maybe 20 yard wide fairway. Straight line carry to the green is about 280 and anything that misses the green left will be in the woods. Right/long is gonna be  OB  off the property. Play a 3, 5 wood, or hybrid. Any miss left and is runs down into the gully\woods. Safe miss is long and right as the hill on that side will backstop it and run it down towards the fairway. The safest play is to hit your 150 yard club 2 times. Hole 18 is a 300 yard all uphill sidehill dogleg par 4 (with 100 foot elevation increase) to an elevated green (miss left, short, or long and you are guaranteed OB).  I have yet to determine the best way to play this one as everything runs sidehill left to the cart path and OB. I kinda want to just bomb it at the clubhouse and hope that hill funnels to the green. The course is short at just a bit over 6000, but it's the elevation changes, tree lined 15-30 yard wide fairways and decently fast greens that make it a challenge. Driver makes sense on maybe 7 holes, but you need to be able to control length and path. Very much a target type course, you really are not gonna overpower it.

My other main course is a "links style course" that has similar elevation changes, but is 7000 yards and pretty wide open.

Yeah, I ain't walking much these days.

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On 4/15/2021 at 8:44 PM, chadley300 said:

I walk when the option is available.  There are a lot of courses near me that mandate riding stating it speeds up play so there is no option to walk.

As long as they NEVER  have "cart path only" and the green fees are one price - they don't charge an extra fee for carts (makes no sense if the require carts) then I am sorta OK with that.... To be honest, last year when they made everyone take their own carts, several times we had a foursome complete 18 in about 2.5 hours on a 7000 yard course and one time two of us played another 9 in 55 minutes. We were still waiting for greens to clear to hit our approach shots. If no one was in front of us and we were in the mind to play speed golf a foursome could do 18 in 1:45 - 2:00 hours but that would NOT be an enjoyable round IMHO. I am of the opinion that the proper speed of play for a round of golf is whatever it takes to hit your ball, walk to it, decide what your next shot is and make it. Allow for a couple 3 putts and duffed chips.... my purpose is to enjoy the round, not complete it ASAP to rush on to the next event.

Honestly, we as a society need to slow the **** down and look at the scenery a bit more often!

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I'm planning to only play 9 and walk each Tuesday afternoon in league this year.  I know that people will mutter behind my back - "walkers!!$%#" - as if we would be the slow play issue on a course that averages 4:45 a round.  It's guys playing from the wrong set of tees and people who spend forever reading putts on a course that they have played several hundred times - we all know that the ball breaks towards 62nd avenue already - just putt the thing!!!

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I can always out walk a foursome, keep pace with a threesome, get beat by a twosome or a single in a cart.  Almost always its because of the distance between holes...  My home course has some hills and a about a block walk between 9 and 10 that I can't overcome when people are in those zippy carts, but then I wait on them if they slide around me.  I've got a few places where I can walk through some short cuts to beat those carts. 

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I try to walk 9 holes twice a week...our course has 27 holes, I work 4 days a week, and on one 9 we can walk those holes in the mornings...otherwise, the course requires us to ride......honeydos prevent me from walking 3 days a week!😏

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I would love to walk but my arthritic hip at age 77 only allows me to go about 50 yards before i have to sit and let the pain subside. I would also like to have a 120 mph swing speed but again my arthritis won't allow that either!😏

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