Does anyone walk anymore?

[chisag]

2 hours ago, GPS111 said:

  If you follow the course rules and playing conditions they don't ruin anything any more than a few thousand walkers or mowers cutting can do.  If it is cart path only, stay on the path.  If a 90 degree rule, use it.  It is not the carts but inconsiderate drivers that can "ruin" the course. 

 

... I actually agree with both of you. It takes a cart for the inconsiderate to do damage to the course. Like many things in America it is amazing how many azzhats I see abusing their privilege. There are a plethora of reasons to use a cart. Physical reasons top the list as do mountain courses and those with long walks from green to tee. I have also heard recently that some that walk for their daily job like to relax in a cart on the weekend. That was a new one for me and makes complete sense. 

... But my biggest pet peeve is the ignorance, stupidity and complete carelessness I see from far too many that park their carts on the grass around the tee box. Saving what? 2 steps max but killing the grass. Same thing around greens. Why anyone would not just keep their carts on the path is just mind bogglingly selfish and inconsiderate. I used to play with a Greenskeeper of a nice course in Chicago and he said that's why you have to rope off tee boxes and greens. In a study they found when there is a worn spot, cart drivers carelessly but subconsciously drive on it. When questioned they didn't even realize they were doing it. Which is just another way to say selfish. 

... Of course alcohol is a contributing factor. No reason anyone can't enjoy a round riding in a cart and drinking responsibly while caring for the golf course. But we all know that is far too often not the case. As always my theory of most everything in life boils down to, are you a considerate or an inconsiderate person and that answers most questions about poor behavior. 

[Billy-Bo-Jim-Bob]

Caddie anyone?? 

[silver & black]

3 hours ago, GPS111 said:

Sorry but I have to disagree.  Carts have been around on courses longer than almost all of us have been playing.  If you follow the course rules and playing conditions they don't ruin anything any more than a few thousand walkers or mowers cutting can do.  If it is cart path only, stay on the path.  If a 90 degree rule, use it.  It is not the carts but inconsiderate drivers that can "ruin" the course.  

Conversely, I've seen more mowers and groundskeepers "ruin" the course as well.  Poorly cut, deep piles of clippings left on the course, edges of bunkers driven over and cut by mowers and I can go on.  So add "bad course maintenance" to the inconsiderate cart users. 

"Ruin" a course cuts both ways.  In the end, what they do to a course can all be fixed.  And for what it's worth I've never seen a cart ruin the edge of a hole like hundreds of foursomes can.

Ummm..... yea. I think that's why I bolded the "ruin the game" part and responded with the roll eyes emoticon.

[Pete Birmingham]

Always walk - except Saturdays (not allowed) 2 - 3 weekdays, 78 years old and still walking whenever (and so long as) possible. 

[Bob Pegram]

I am 73 and always walk and carry my bag. I have run to stay in shape for years until a medical condition that has since been fixed stopped me. Now when I run my back hurts and feels compressed vertically. I can bicycle though. Resting pulse is 55, one more than when in my 20s.

[Bang60]

15 hours ago, chisag said:

 

... I actually agree with both of you. It takes a cart for the inconsiderate to do damage to the course. Like many things in America it is amazing how many azzhats I see abusing their privilege. There are a plethora of reasons to use a cart. Physical reasons top the list as do mountain courses and those with long walks from green to tee. I have also heard recently that some that walk for their daily job like to relax in a cart on the weekend. That was a new one for me and makes complete sense. 

... But my biggest pet peeve is the ignorance, stupidity and complete carelessness I see from far too many that park their carts on the grass around the tee box. Saving what? 2 steps max but killing the grass. Same thing around greens. Why anyone would not just keep their carts on the path is just mind bogglingly selfish and inconsiderate. I used to play with a Greenskeeper of a nice course in Chicago and he said that's why you have to rope off tee boxes and greens. In a study they found when there is a worn spot, cart drivers carelessly but subconsciously drive on it. When questioned they didn't even realize they were doing it. Which is just another way to say selfish. 

... Of course alcohol is a contributing factor. No reason anyone can't enjoy a round riding in a cart and drinking responsibly while caring for the golf course. But we all know that is far too often not the case. As always my theory of most everything in life boils down to, are you a considerate or an inconsiderate person and that answers most questions about poor behavior. 

Well I'm not happy with your description of me, I don't remember how to do everything the correct way anymore. After a month in a Coma it's very difficult to remember how I should do things, a friend at golf told me I drive a cart badly but when I drive to my next shot I take the most direct route. But if there's a concrete path I use it even when I ride my ebike, funny thing is I think my friends a bad driver and I won't share a cart with him LOL...

Subjective huh...

[Prodigal Duffer]

I walked the last two rounds I played (only 9 holes). I find it way more enjoyable and intend to make it my standard practice.

Yesterday, I played with my son. After we finished, I asked if he liked walking. He said he prefers riding, but if he had a push cart, maybe he’d feel different. The straps make carrying his bag uncomfortable. I might be buying push carts for both of us in the near future. 

[Zman56]

I started walking again during Covid and really enjoy it and the walking is good for me.  I average 6+ miles walking 18 holes.  Walking also gives me the time to see the undulations of the green as I walk to the green and gives me time to think about the last or next shot.  Plus, save $20-30 a round by not renting a golf cart.  Back in 2020 I bought a new CaddyTek push cart for about $150 and have gotten my moneys worth!

[GolfNut14]

Yes, I still like to walk as its great exercise and overall a better experience with golf. I do still ride from time to time but plan to get more walking in this season. I got a new push cart for last season and this season I got my cart fitted with a battery powered motor. Looking forward to a lot more walking again. 

[MacTourney]

On 3/25/2023 at 10:02 PM, Jim Shaw said:

... but I crave the walking...

It's true, the gemme is made for walkin', na' fer shots, or so I'm told.

[Genes]

Usually walk whenever I can. 65 years old and use a alphard electric cart. It’s the cats tush. Makes playing 36 a piece of cake. The battery lasts 27-36 holes depends on how hilly. 
I also have a seat on the cart. Walking makes me play at a slower pace which also helps my game. When it’s in the nineties I ride unless I get out early in the day. 

[AndySP]

2 hours ago, Zman56 said:

 Plus, save $20-30 a round by not renting a golf cart.  Back in 2020 I bought a new CaddyTek push cart for about $150 and have gotten my moneys worth!

This is huge for me . There is no way I could afford a cart even if I wanted to. 
 

I alternate between walking with my pencil bag and pushing a cart. Both are enjoyable. I generally push if it’s wet or might rain because my bag doesn’t have legs. 

I sit all day long at work so the walking is a huge relief for me. More relaxing and if you are with a group, I’ve found it’s also easier to maintain a conversation. 

[CZOscar]

I’m 80 and my preference is walking with ClickGear 3.5 push cart.  Wish I could afford a Stewart Remote but push cart is fine.  My problem being able to walk all the time are:  Texas Heat 100 deg plus, tournaments with shotgun starts, and partners who insist on riding, and sciatic/back pain flare up. But walking is my preference and I seem to play better.

[Pete Birmingham]

@ CZOscar: try looking for a good, used, motorized cart. Your back AND your golf game will thank you! MGI, MOTOgolf, Sptitzer, etc. 

[chisag]

6 minutes ago, Pete Birmingham said:

@ CZOscar: try looking for a good, used, motorized cart. Your back AND your golf game will thank you! MGI, MOTOgolf, Sptitzer, etc. 

 

... I picked up a ZIP and I sold my MGI Quad remote cart to my 80yr old playing partner. He used a push cart and switching to a remote cart has been a game changer for him. Especially the back 9 that has more elevation changes than the front. Now he wished he would have made the change years ago. 

[funkyjudge]

6 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... I picked up a ZIP and I sold my MGI Quad remote cart to my 80yr old playing partner. He used a push cart and switching to a remote cart has been a game changer for him. Especially the back 9 that has more elevation changes than the front. Now he wished he would have made the change years ago. 

The only problem that I have with my Motocaddy power trolley is that the remote is ultra-sensitive, and any kind of change in speed or direction is very abrupt.  This has caused the trolley to jump a few curbs and tip over more than once.  It has become such a hinderance that I went back to either carrying a lightweight stand bag or using my very old (8-10 years at a minimum) and quite worn-out BagBoy push cart.

[funkyjudge]

19 minutes ago, Pete Birmingham said:

@ CZOscar: try looking for a good, used, motorized cart. Your back AND your golf game will thank you! MGI, MOTOgolf, Sptitzer, etc. 

I wish that my motorized trolley was easy to use (see above post about this), but it just is not.

[chisag]

3 minutes ago, funkyjudge said:

The only problem that I have with my Motocaddy power trolley is that the remote is ultra-sensitive, and any kind of change in speed or direction is very abrupt.  This has caused the trolley to jump a few curbs and tip over more than once.  It has become such a hinderance that I went back to either carrying a lightweight stand bag or using my very old (8-10 years at a minimum) and quite worn-out BagBoy push cart.

 

... My Motocaddy was the same and along with the gyroscope for dead straight tracking, the reason I went with MGI. Of course you can always use the Mottocaddy without the remote and avoid the jerking/sensitive controls. 

[funkyjudge]

1 minute ago, chisag said:

 

... My Motocaddy was the same and along with the gyroscope for dead straight tracking, the reason I went with MGI. Of course you can always use the Mottocaddy without the remote and avoid the jerking/sensitive controls. 

I have yet to figure out how to do that while keeping pace with the trolley.  It seems that the only way to use the trolley without employing the remote is to manually push it, which requires 400% of the effort of pushing a manual trolley.

[chisag]

3 minutes ago, funkyjudge said:

I have yet to figure out how to do that while keeping pace with the trolley.  It seems that the only way to use the trolley without employing the remote is to manually push it, which requires 400% of the effort of pushing a manual trolley.

 

... Not trying to bash Motocaddy but they seem to have poor speed control. One speed was a little too slow and the next speed a little too fast and I heard that complaint by more than a few. My ZIP has a variable speed control so without the remote you can match it to your exact walking speed. And I am not trying to promote MGI as I am sure there are plenty of other power caddies with variable speed control.