GSwag 2,491 #41 Posted July 6, 2018 The 30 handicap that think they can buy DJ's golf game by gaming a tp5x are insane. What makes me just shake my head are some of the older guys with slow swing speeds all hitting ProV1, and happy if they break 90, who all are hitting their 3rd shot into par 4's with a 8 iron from 70 yards on the bump and run. I've tried to gently suggest buying the cheapest 2-piece ball they can find, but there is something about playing a Titleist that these guys mentally have to have. The other one was one of my Dad's friends, who had more money then he could ever spend (a problem I am willing to have by the way, if anyone is ever interested in setting me up for this), and his golf game was a joke. But yet, every time he showed up to play in the pro shop he'd ask the pro to charge him for a dozen ProV1. He lost like half of them on the first 3 holes his game was so bad. But dropping $50 every time you tee it up, just on balls, was like you and me missing a nickel from our loose change pocket in our cars. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcmarsico 41 #42 Posted July 6, 2018 Yes, I still don't see that as an argument for separate tests. Let everyone test everything. See how the data plays out. You can group people and balls by any sub set you want later. Don't limit the test to what you think "should" be right, just let the data speak for itself! This is how I feel about the putter testing too! Put the mallets and blades together and see how it turns out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcmarsico 41 #43 Posted July 6, 2018 Who says they can't? Have at it and git er done! I only suggested that not many people can really get everything out of a top notch ball. Kinda like how very few people can ride a Kawasaki 1100 crotch rocket to extract everything it has to offer, I've heard it's something like 5%... Anyways.... I've really been thinking about going with one specific ball to see if it does make any difference on my scoring... My problem is I can't decide which ball to go with... PV1X Tp5 Chrome Z-star Snell Vice I've gamed all of these except the snell, and I found that I really liked all of them. So trying to choose one to go with is tough. Might be best to just get a sleeve of each to see if I can narrow the field down. I wonder if I can get just a sleeve of vice or snell...? Hmmm If you like them all, let the price decide. You can often find the z-stars at $20/dz which is even cheaper than the snell or vice. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fixyurdivot 3,264 #44 Posted July 6, 2018 What makes me just shake my head are some of the older guys with slow swing speeds all hitting ProV1, and happy if they break 90, who all are hitting their 3rd shot into par 4's with a 8 iron from 70 yards on the bump and run. I've tried to gently suggest buying the cheapest 2-piece ball they can find, but there is something about playing a Titleist that these guys mentally have to have. The other one was one of my Dad's friends, who had more money then he could ever spend (a problem I am willing to have by the way, if anyone is ever interested in setting me up for this), and his golf game was a joke. But yet, every time he showed up to play in the pro shop he'd ask the pro to charge him for a dozen ProV1. He lost like half of them on the first 3 holes his game was so bad. But dropping $50 every time you tee it up, just on balls, was like you and me missing a nickel from our loose change pocket in our cars. The power and influence of great marketing is quite impressive. As an avid fly fisherman, I am wise to their tricks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GB13 5,464 #45 Posted July 6, 2018 The power and influence of great marketing is quite impressive. As an avid fly fisherman, I am wise to their tricks.I think that fact that they are the most expensive plays a part too. It has been ingrained into their heads that the most expensive is the always best. If they just wanted the Titleist name they could play the DT Trusoft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sluggo42 3,750 #46 Posted July 7, 2018 If you like them all, let the price decide. You can often find the z-stars at $20/dz which is even cheaper than the snell or vice. Where can you get Z-sfars for $20 ????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fozcycle 8,373 #47 Posted July 7, 2018 Where can you get Z-sfars for $20 ?????They were available on the Srixon website for $20/dozen up until Fathers Day.I got some Q Star Tours......great distance and great feel around the greens. #CobraCONNECT using the new F8's from Cobra Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sluggo42 3,750 #48 Posted July 7, 2018 Yea- they're gone Just ordered 2 doz chrome softs, prev version Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AH1980MN 898 #49 Posted July 8, 2018 I think just about everybody would benefit from a urethane covered ball. This talk of cheapest for your swing speed is focusing on distance, and that's really not a selling point for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSwag 2,491 #50 Posted July 8, 2018 I think just about everybody would benefit from a urethane covered ball. This talk of cheapest for your swing speed is focusing on distance, and that's really not a selling point for me.I dont know if you are referencing my post above, but my example is a guy in their 70's, who hits his best drive maybe 180 yards (200 if he hits a miracle shot). At those numbers, it honestly won't matter what ball you hit. Combine that with the fact that they hit every shot into a green as a low line drive. At that tragectory, I don't even care if you had a string attached to that ball, you aren't making it spin backwards or stop. Their typical hole was drive to about 175, chunk an approach shot, take 8 iron from 70 yards, and hope to miss the sandtrap as it hits 20 yards short of the green and runs up and through the green. They pitch back on from over the back, and then 3 putt for whatever. These are guys that have no short game, and essentially struggle to break 90 on a good day. But they keep coming back with ProV1s in their bag. Look, to each his own, and I hope when I am pushing 80 I can still swing a club, but as cheap as I am, if my game deteriorates to the level I describe above, I'm buying the cheapest $10 per dozen ball I can find, because anything more than that is a complete waste of money. Sent from my coral using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raymaffit 31 #51 Posted July 8, 2018 I've used Pro V1's and for me, it's like hitting a stone...it has no distance and take an AWFUL flight path... I swing slow so I use a senior flex driver with Noodle Long and Softs or Cally Supersofts. Since I found that combo I've been really happy... $4 golf balls don't help everyone, for sure. raymaffit Greensburg, Pa Taylormade Burner Superfast HT Driver Top Flite 5 wood, 3/4 Hybrid Nike SQ Machspeed 4i-AW Odyssey DFX 1100 Noodle Long and Soft 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glftips 33 #52 Posted July 9, 2018 How the ball is built is directly related to how the ball performs. Different golfers with different swing types (slow or fast swing speed, hooks/slices tendencies ect..) have different needs from the balls they use. The correct ball type selection for your swing will help you be more consistent in your shots. example - if your swing speed is say 70 or 80mph and you slice the ball why would you use a ProV1? Just because it's a "performance ball"? in most cases a ball like that will actually make your problems worse not better as you're getting a lot more spin which will increase your slice. What people are saying is that it does not matter how the ball is made for a study. The results are the data that are important. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeekendGolfChef 6 #53 Posted August 24, 2018 I love the idea. This would be great to see. MGS, a great choice would also be to select 3 groups of balls, the first would be tour level, amateur level and beginners level. The levels would be specific to the ball and what type of golfer would benefit from them. Hope to see something like this! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
