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Shadow does it as an experience. They only get a dozen groups on a Saturday and about half of that the rest of the week. The deal through MGM is $500 for a limo ride out and back, golf as well as food and booze. The amount they get yearly in greens fees more than likely doesn't cover their property tax bill.

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This is going to be a very big generalization which I usually try to avoid doing. But if anything I think the higher greens fees at those places keep out regular players and create demand for the c

Pebble Beach is $500 but like many other destination courses, it is less if you are staying at the resort. In the end, I don't think they are actively trying to keep anyone "out" of the course, they a

We played Bethpage Black and Green (separate years) but don't Reggie much we paid but was definitely under $100.00. Since we were out of state (CT) we couldn't make reservations but could get in wh

I understand your question. But is really hard to separate them. I stayed at Pinehurst Resort last year for 2 nights and two rounds of golf, a couple dinners, breakfast daily. It was a good value in my mind for $1200. Include full locker room access with a shoe shine. Plus the atmosphere of walking the halls of the clubhouse, the rocking chairs on the porch of 18 on No.2, with a beer in hand watching groups come in.

 

Much the same at Kohler with the locker room, upstairs cigar bar, all present a true unique experience. I haven't been to pebble, but would expect its even more of the same.

 

It makes for the total package.

 

I got to do a family trip to Pebble Beach when I was a kid. Rode in the cart with my dad while he played, we had a cottage that over looked the most beautiful oceans cape you can imagine and we could hear the bag piper playing the last groups in over at Spanish Bay. It was awesome. Wish I would have been able to play!

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I'm not disagreeing with anyone. Just seems odd to me. I get the history and the location adds to it all. My mom went to Pebble Beach and watched the sunset at a bar. I saw pictures, it is amazing. I'm a bang for buck guy. If I could play 4-5 of them for the same as 1 round I'd go for the 4-5.

 

 

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I would suspect that many of the ultra-famous courses understand that there are some willing to pay the price just to be able to say they played it.   I ask, does the Pinehurst resort pay more to maintain and up keep #2 much over what it does for its other courses, or do they know people will pay more to play #2.

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Seems around here that the prices of the more expensive courses is determined by how many rounds they want to be played annually not revenue

 

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Any vacation mecca whether it be golf or a family oriented one can charge higher prices just for the fact that people will go there no matter what the price. Pebble Beach pricing doesn't just cover the cost to maintain the course, it's how much are you willing to pay for the experience, the views, the ability to walk and play a course that past and present golf greats have tread on. Just like Disney this year which jacked their prices up because demand is high. I know people are still willing to pay it though.

 

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Seems around here that the prices of the more expensive courses is determined by how many rounds they want to be played annually not revenue

 

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This is a reason I've heard before. Some courses want to remain "public" but the price will certainly deter a good number of people away which helps keep the rounds down and the course in assumptively better condition.

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This is a reason I've heard before. Some courses want to remain "public" but the price will certainly deter a good number of people away which helps keep the rounds down and the course in assumptively better condition.

This is actually one of the reasons I'm not a member of the Courses I was previously. I thought they should raise their prices another $50 per month(memberships range from $150-$320 per month) to try and get less play. That place was freaking PACKED all the time. I'm talking 200+ groups going out literally every Saturday and Sunday. Just about no matter what. 

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This is actually one of the reasons I'm not a member of the Courses I was previously. I thought they should raise their prices another $50 per month(memberships range from $150-$320 per month) to try and get less play. That place was freaking PACKED all the time. I'm talking 200+ groups going out literally every Saturday and Sunday. Just about no matter what. 

 

200 groups? I would think that would have to be combined for the two days. If that is the case the course was packed from 6 am to 6 pm at 8 minute intervals which equals 90 groups and 360 players. That is a ton of play! I'd rather pay more for more exclusive rights.

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I'd quit golf if I had to deal with 200 groups a day. That would take for friggin ever. Just dumb.

 

 

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Main reason I did not join DuPont CC when I liv d in DE. Once they told me as a new member I may get a time one or two weekends during the summer I went elsewhere.

 

 

 

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Main reason I did not join DuPont CC when I liv d in DE. Once they told me as a new member I may get a time one or two weekends during the summer I went elsewhere.

 

 

 

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Am I spoiled then getting the course to myself? I thought golf was "dying". 200 groups and "once or twice" a summer is not a dying game.

 

 

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200 groups? I would think that would have to be combined for the two days. If that is the case the course was packed from 6 am to 6 pm at 8 minute intervals which equals 90 groups and 360 players. That is a ton of play! I'd rather pay more for more exclusive rights.

Welcome to what was my hell. Its not even that tough of a course. Boxes sub 5k to 6900 tipped. Rarely was it tipped all the way.

Yet I was lucky to get a round in sub 5 hours on the weekend.

You are spot on with the 8 min splits and packed tee sheet. Good luck calling in within 2 weeks and trying to get a tee time before 12 on a Saturday.

 

Edit: just noticed what I had typed earlier and I'm an idiot. I meant 200 plus ROUNDS minimum. Between first tee time available and 4pm which is when tee times stop and first come first serve becomes available. They generally don't count rounds that go out after that. Hell there are only 73ish tee slots in that time period (6ish-4pm). I dunno why I said that many groups. I'm losing my mind, I swear.

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Welcome to what was my hell. Its not even that tough of a course. Boxes sub 5k to 6900 tipped. Rarely was it tipped all the way.

Yet I was lucky to get a round in sub 5 hours on the weekend.

You are spot on with the 8 min splits and packed tee sheet. Good luck calling in within 2 weeks and trying to get a tee time before 12 on a Saturday.

 

Edit: just noticed what I had typed earlier and I'm an idiot. I meant 200 plus ROUNDS minimum. Between first tee time available and 4pm which is when tee times stop and first come first serve becomes available. They generally don't count rounds that go out after that. Hell there are only 73ish tee slots in that time period (6ish-4pm). I dunno why I said that many groups. I'm losing my mind, I swear.

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Hey!  We have a new senior member in the group.  Welcome!!    :D

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I played Torrey South for $128 this year, and two rounds at the Ocean course for around $600 (including caddie). Torrey is a muni, while Ocean Course is a public course owned by a private resort company. This explains some of the price difference.

 

Torrey was incredible, but it was not as nice as Kiawah. Torrey was completely booked with foursomes. I was hit on from 110 yards out, and I had a group of guys jamming techno from the adjacent teebox. 

 

Ocean Course was barely booked (not fantastic weather), with only twosomes, caddies required in the morning ("watchdog effect"), and Ocean Course was in perfect condition in every area on every hole. The pro shop was much more expensive too. 

 

I think this explains why some public courses cost as much as they do, or why some don't. 

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I think that course fees for playing parallel golf equipment in a way. People will pay for a name if they feel the product is justified. PXG has very high priced equipment and doesn't make any excuses for it but people pay. Just like golf balls as well.

 

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It cost a lot to keep a premium course in top condition. Maintaining and watering a course to be in perfect condition to play cost a premium. The high price probably would probably keep away the average Joe golfer, but I don't believe it is to keep anyone off the course. It's the old saying, you get what you pay for.

 

 

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