TWShoot67 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Premium PROFIT if they sell, and they will (lot's a guys trying to buy that extra 0.5mph ball speed you get with these irons...) lol. I bet Callaway can make about 200.00 on each club they sell or more. That's a heck of a profit. We all know the saying " there's a sucker born every minute ". What I really want to see is how many staffers will bag these and for how long? The Bag: Right handed Cobra King FLYZ+ 10.5* w/ Aldila Rogue 125 R 44.5" Tour Issued TM M2 10.5 w/ Mitsubishi Tensi CK Pro Blue 60S Tour Issued TM M2 15* w/ GD Tour AD 7S 43" TM R7 17.5 HFS w/ Tour AD 7S Stiff 42" Cobra S3 Pro's 4-pw w/ Aldila RIP Tours SLT 115 Reg. 5i 38.5" Titleist Vokey Proto's 52*,54*,58* all TTDG S-400 TM TP5 X Scotty Cameron SSS Tiffany 009 350 34.5" or Bettinardi BB1 DASS Proto GHIN # 5144472 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpc2828 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Premium PROFIT if they sell, and they will (lot's a guys trying to buy that extra 0.5mph ball speed you get with these irons...) lol. I bet Callaway can make about 200.00 on each club they sell or more. That's a heck of a profit. We all know the saying " there's a sucker born every minute ". What I really want to see is how many staffers will bag these and for how long? Looks like the first Callaway staffer is Colon Montgomery, though a senior tour player Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtisdale Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Why can't you get fit for these clubs?? Who said you can't? I'm sure if I'm buying them they will make them to my specs, right?? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy i'm sure they can, but most likely at an additional charge at where ever you purchase them which is my issue. For that kind of money i would expect a personalized fitting from a certified Callaway rep. Maybe it's just me but i think premium prices should come with premium service. I hope i am wrong about this and Callaway will do this with each set as they seem to be a customer driven company. . Driver - Ping G5 10.5 3W & 5W - Taylormade aeroburner Irons - Cobra Amp cell 4-GW Wedge - Titleist Volky 60deg Putter - Odyssey V-7 tank superstoke long grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadivots Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Looks like the first Callaway staffer is Colon Montgomery, though a senior tour player IMG_1145.JPG Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy And theres your target market. "Senior" money. Golf has always been more money than sense to now rude money on the course and no sense. All I know is there is a lot of good clubs out there for these kind of dollars. And a fool and his money...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Callway Rogue St Triple Diamond 9* 2 HY: Mizuno STZ 230 16* (set to 13.75) 2 Iron: Taylormade UDI 17* Irons: 2019 Titleist T100S 3-PW Wedges: Vokey SM6 54* and SM9 48* / Taylormade MG3 TW 56* Putter: PING Anser Ball: Pro V1 Bag: Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dang3rtown Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Based on the last few product releases we have been talking about, it seems to me the PXG has established that there is a demand and market for, "premium" equipment. If that market is there, and they're ignoring it, they are fools, particularly in the dog eat dog world of the golf equipment industry. No one is about to give away a profitable piece of the pie. You have to put a product in that segment if for no other reason than to prevent your competitors from locking it down. Driver: G 10.5* W/Tour Stiff 65g Ping Shaft Fairway Woods: Cobra F6 13.5*, F6 Baffler 16* Irons: Split Set- i200 3i - 7i , Ft Worth 15s, 8 (36), 9 (40), PW (44) Wedges: TK, 52* & 56* Putter: Sigma G Kushin Bag: Hoofer 5way Balls: TP5/X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAgolfer2017 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Not a huge fan of the looks. For the price point, id think it would have a cleaner look. The tech is interesting, and am curious to see reviews on it. Regardless....I'll stick with my CF16's. Only way I'd consider these is if they were guaranteed to take me from a 16hdc to a scratch golfer instantly... Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Bag: 4.5LS Driver: Stealth 9* w/ Aldila Red 60 Fairway: SIM 15* w/ Diamana 70 Fairway: GBB Heavenwood 19* w/ Fujikura Pro 72 Irons: p790 4-PW w/ C-Taper Lite 110s Wedge: MG3 50 & 54 Wedge: Hi-Toe 60* Putter: Spider X Ball: TP5 PIX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 Were these going to be a "normal" release though? They look like the replacement for the steelhead. Someone just said "hey we are missing out on a market share, charge double for the new clubs!" The Epic driver isn't a "premium" driver... by cost anyways. And it's it has the same name... Or the XR/XR Pro replacement Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Callway Rogue St Triple Diamond 9* 2 HY: Mizuno STZ 230 16* (set to 13.75) 2 Iron: Taylormade UDI 17* Irons: 2019 Titleist T100S 3-PW Wedges: Vokey SM6 54* and SM9 48* / Taylormade MG3 TW 56* Putter: PING Anser Ball: Pro V1 Bag: Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterpc2828 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 i'm sure they can, but most likely at an additional charge at where ever you purchase them which is my issue. For that kind of money i would expect a personalized fitting from a certified Callaway rep. Maybe it's just me but i think premium prices should come with premium service. I hope i am wrong about this and Callaway will do this with each set as they seem to be a customer driven company. . I can't imagine that if you go to any Callaway authorized fitting center or other retailers that they would charge you for the fitting if you buy the irons from them, maybe I'm wrong but just can't see that. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGary6 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 These clubs share the same technology thats in the 2016 Big Bertha OS irons. I guess an extra $100 per club gets you all that technology in a slimmer, more socially accepted package? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Callaway Rouge ST Max Driver, Tensei AV Blue 55 S Callaway Rouge ST Max 3 Fairway, Tensei AV Blue 65 S Callaway Rouge ST Max 3 Hybrid, Tensei AV Blue 75 S PXG 0311 XP G3 Irons 5-GW, True Temper Elevate Tour S PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy Wedge 54º, 60º, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 PXG Blackjack Putter Titleist Pro V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGary6 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Say what you want about the irons, I'll be purchasing an Epic hybrid on release day. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Callaway Rouge ST Max Driver, Tensei AV Blue 55 S Callaway Rouge ST Max 3 Fairway, Tensei AV Blue 65 S Callaway Rouge ST Max 3 Hybrid, Tensei AV Blue 75 S PXG 0311 XP G3 Irons 5-GW, True Temper Elevate Tour S PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy Wedge 54º, 60º, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 PXG Blackjack Putter Titleist Pro V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou mcconaughey Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 It's no wonder golf is a dyeing sport. It's so expensive to get equipped and to play. If everybody would roll back prices golf would come back in a big way Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 It's no wonder golf is a dyeing sport. It's so expensive to get equipped and to play. If everybody would roll back prices golf would come back in a big way Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy If you do some research you would see that, adjusted for inflation, cost of most golf equipment has not gone up over the years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraasty Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Wow these look so horrible. I don't get how they can charge a premium price for cheap carbon fiber look badging and .5 ball speed increases. With so many other great options out there I don't foresee them selling these to anyone except callaway cult groups Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 If you do some research you would see that, adjusted for inflation, cost of most golf equipment has not gone up over the years Agree here. Just seems really high up because. Par clubs are in the 110-150 range each. My dad paid $975 for my set of DCI oversized 2-PW back in 2000 for the high school golf team that I got cut the following week from. I had a lot of grass to cut, and extra chores to do for the rest of the season... - Alan Driver: Callway Rogue St Triple Diamond 9* 2 HY: Mizuno STZ 230 16* (set to 13.75) 2 Iron: Taylormade UDI 17* Irons: 2019 Titleist T100S 3-PW Wedges: Vokey SM6 54* and SM9 48* / Taylormade MG3 TW 56* Putter: PING Anser Ball: Pro V1 Bag: Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBT Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 I think these are over priced, $250 a club!! That's double the price of their Apex line! I did hit the hybrid this week as my club Pro is a Callaway staffer....it's easily 12-15 longer than my XR hybrid with the exact same loft! XR Driver Matrix Ozik 8m3 Black Tie Shaft King F7 3W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 5W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 4 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft PXG 0211 DC 5-PW Mitsubishi MMT 80 Shafts RTX ZIPCORE 50*,54*,58* UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts Metal X Milled #7 with SuperStroke 2.0 grip MTB Twitter: @timldotson Instagram: timldotson Facebook: TimDotson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stage1350 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Callaway has been in this market for a while. Go research GBB Tungsten-Titanium irons followed by GBB Hawkeye irons. Both were around the same price. PXG has done nothing but market towards a clientele that Callaway had proven already existed and has done a better job of making them feel good about their purchase by saying that they are "exclusive." Tour Issue Callaway GBB Epic Sub Zero 9° / Graphite Design P9003 TX OR Tour Issue Taylormade M1 430 9.5° / Graphite Design P9003 TX Tour Issue Callaway XHot 3 Deep 13° / Graphite Design DI-10 TX Tour Issue Callaway XHot 3 Deep 13° / Project X T1100 95g 6.5 Tour Issue Titleist 915Hd 17.5° / Graphite Design DI-105 X Tour Issue Callaway BB Alpha 815 18° / Graphite Design DI-105 X Scratch AR-1 v2 3-PW / Tour Issue Dynamic Gold X7 Raw Bridgestone J15CB 3-PW / Tour Issue Dynamic Gold X7 Scratch FIT 54°DS and 60°DS / Tour Issue Dynamic Gold X7 Bettinardi H2 Forged 54° and 60° / Tour Issue Dynamic Gold X7 Rotating 8802 style putters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poprocksncoke Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Taylormade making jabs SLDR 10.5 Fujikura Ventus Velocore+ Red 6S R11s Rip Phenom Apex Pro 16 Rivl 52 Black Rivl 58 Black EV 5.3 Duo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 Taylormade making jabs ... make it stop - Alan Driver: Callway Rogue St Triple Diamond 9* 2 HY: Mizuno STZ 230 16* (set to 13.75) 2 Iron: Taylormade UDI 17* Irons: 2019 Titleist T100S 3-PW Wedges: Vokey SM6 54* and SM9 48* / Taylormade MG3 TW 56* Putter: PING Anser Ball: Pro V1 Bag: Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 The Epic irons don't interest me too much money. There are a lot of really nice clubs from a lot of makers that look better than the Epic and 1/2 the price. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Haha pretty good by TaylorMade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Not to beat this horse to death, but they would have to be absolutely amazing. Long, almost impossible to not hit straight, etc. etc Sent from my E6853 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted July 1, 2017 Author Share Posted July 1, 2017 The epic irons to me look just like the big Bertha irons from last year with different colors. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Callway Rogue St Triple Diamond 9* 2 HY: Mizuno STZ 230 16* (set to 13.75) 2 Iron: Taylormade UDI 17* Irons: 2019 Titleist T100S 3-PW Wedges: Vokey SM6 54* and SM9 48* / Taylormade MG3 TW 56* Putter: PING Anser Ball: Pro V1 Bag: Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 The epic irons to me look just like the big Bertha irons from last year with different colors. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I looked a t clubs this morning and was unimpressed with the Epic irons. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Hog Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 This weekend I played in a local tournament and noticed one guy had a completely new bag of PXG gear and I mean from top to bottom. Now this guy has money so it was apparent he went with PXG purely for the "look at me" status when on the range/course. If that's your thing and you've got the money then go for it. He still wasn't very good and I easily beat him so it's obvious that it's all about the indian and not the arrow. That said, if Callaway is going after the PXG market I struggle to see how their brand exudes premium. I think Apex was positioned really well but I just don't see their Epic irons (still a terrible name BTW) doing much of anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dang3rtown Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 If you do some research you would see that, adjusted for inflation, cost of most golf equipment has not gone up over the years Yep, if anything, margin has steadily dropped for OEMs over the last two decades. Driver: G 10.5* W/Tour Stiff 65g Ping Shaft Fairway Woods: Cobra F6 13.5*, F6 Baffler 16* Irons: Split Set- i200 3i - 7i , Ft Worth 15s, 8 (36), 9 (40), PW (44) Wedges: TK, 52* & 56* Putter: Sigma G Kushin Bag: Hoofer 5way Balls: TP5/X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dang3rtown Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Just to tie this into a thread Shankster made a while back; these are ugly. I get the technology in these is amazing, and the production tolerances are top notch. I'm sure it's a fantastic iron but why would you put a carbon fiber sticker on the back of an iron? Correct me if I'm wrong, but everything I've read about the technology in these clubs indicates that the carbon fiber is purely cosmetic, most likely, designed to match the metal woods where it's actually a construction component. Does carbon fiber look expensive and thus aid in the separation of fools and their money? I just don't get it, the whole carbon fiber facade thing just seems very dated and ugly. Shame because they appear to be really fantastic clubs. Driver: G 10.5* W/Tour Stiff 65g Ping Shaft Fairway Woods: Cobra F6 13.5*, F6 Baffler 16* Irons: Split Set- i200 3i - 7i , Ft Worth 15s, 8 (36), 9 (40), PW (44) Wedges: TK, 52* & 56* Putter: Sigma G Kushin Bag: Hoofer 5way Balls: TP5/X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Yep, if anything, margin has steadily dropped for OEMs over the last two decades.I didn't know about the "margins" dropping but it does make sense. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Hit the pros yesterday and they felt great. If I only had 2000 dollars to burn lol Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 Just to tie this into a thread Shankster made a while back; these are ugly. I get the technology in these is amazing, and the production tolerances are top notch. I'm sure it's a fantastic iron but why would you put a carbon fiber sticker on the back of an iron? Correct me if I'm wrong, but everything I've read about the technology in these clubs indicates that the carbon fiber is purely cosmetic, most likely, designed to match the metal woods where it's actually a construction component. Does carbon fiber look expensive and thus aid in the separation of fools and their money? I just don't get it, the whole carbon fiber facade thing just seems very dated and ugly. Shame because they appear to be really fantastic clubs.Carbon fiber is cool for civic hoods... in 1993 - Alan Driver: Callway Rogue St Triple Diamond 9* 2 HY: Mizuno STZ 230 16* (set to 13.75) 2 Iron: Taylormade UDI 17* Irons: 2019 Titleist T100S 3-PW Wedges: Vokey SM6 54* and SM9 48* / Taylormade MG3 TW 56* Putter: PING Anser Ball: Pro V1 Bag: Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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