Kanoito Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Was just reading this article, but don't know who the author is referring to. http://www.golfdigest.com/story/undercover-tour-pro-cheaters-are-hard-to-catch-but-we-know-who-they-are Can anybody shed some light? Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I don't care much for this type of stuff. I suppose GD thinks it cool but to me it's just gossip and the Nat'l Enquirer. Bigbear, DawgDaddy, ole gray and 6 others 9 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poprocksncoke Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 first guess would be Montgomerie? Quote SLDR 10.5 Oban HB R11s Rip Phenom Ft. Worth Black Irons 588 RTX Rotex 2.0 54 CG10 58 EV 5.3 Duo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP The Dansome Posted June 9, 2017 SPY VIP Share Posted June 9, 2017 Billy Mayfair? If this was the women's tour it would be pretty obvious who. Undershooter and WillieStoutJr 2 Quote Yo #JustPlayBetter Follow @GolfSpyMBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downlowkey Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 From the scant information we received via Jack Nicklaus' Masters presser on the Lexi situation, I feel like Danny Lee could be singled out as the serial ball mark violator that was given a "talking to" during the prior Presidents Cup. But I did my homework before making any assumptions. Quote PXG___0811 X 9* - Mitsubishi Diamana s60 Limited X Cobra___S9-1 Pro 15* - Matrix Ozik XCON 7 S Adams___XTD Forged 3i - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S Adams___CMB 4-PW - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S KZG___Tri-Tour 50.08__54.10__58.12 - Accra iCWT 2.0-95i S Nike___Method Converge B1-01 (copper insert) Maxfli___'23 Tour X "The most important shot in golf is the next one“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ole gray Posted June 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2017 Sooooo who hasn't cheated in golf at one time or another? I roll the ball in the rough on occasions, I may not mark the ball perfectly, and I have putted with a titty putter recently. My wife loves me, my dog loves me, and all my golfing buddies would be pissed if I didn't show up at the blitz.They know I cheat because they do too. It's a cheating kind of thang with our group however it's all good....You may not cheat in golf however did you ever tell a lie? Did you ever steal something (piece of candy or your brothers/sisters stuff? Don't judge unless you judge your self first...Gawd I hope the person who phones in rule violations gets a case of the hundred year jock itch!Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy fixyurdivot, silver & black, Miboy62 and 10 others 12 1 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Its either Vijay or Billy Mayfair. I'm going with Billy. Quote Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 Nah, not judging anybody. Just mere curiosity. And I don't even know who Billy Mayfair is ole gray, silver & black and JohnSmalls 3 Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooducks Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Sooooo who hasn't cheated in golf at one time or another? I roll the ball in the rough on occasions, I may not mark the ball perfectly, and I have putted with a titty putter recently. My wife loves me, my dog loves me, and all my golfing buddies would be pissed if I didn't show up at the blitz. They know I cheat because they do too. It's a cheating kind of thang with our group however it's all good.... You may not cheat in golf however did you ever tell a lie? Did you ever steal something (piece of candy or your brothers/sisters stuff? Don't judge unless you judge your self first... Gawd I hope the person who phones in rule violations gets a case of the hundred year jock itch! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy If you're not cheating, you're not trying! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rickp, fixyurdivot, STUDque and 3 others 5 1 Quote WITB: Driver: Taylormade M2 (2016) 10.5° | Fujikura Pro Stiff 60g Fairway: Taylormade Aeroburner 2.0 TP 16.5° | Diamana Whiteboard Stiff 80g Hybrid: Titleist 915h 21° | Diamana Blueboard Stiff 80g Driving Iron: Titleist 712U 3 Iron | Kuro Kage Stiff 70g Irons: Titleist AP2 714 4-PW | KBS Tour 90 Stiff Shafts Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM5 50°/54°/58° Putter: Scotty Cameron 2016 Newport 2 | SuperStroke Mid Slim 2.0 Ball: Taylormade TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Golf Guy Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 My Dad and I were talking about this yesterday. There's a difference between gaining advantages and straight out cheating so hopefully there's proof of this player doing the latter. null 1 Quote WIT Sta Dry Bag: Driver: '17 M2 Woods: M2 3W and 5W Hybrids: Apex 3h and 5h Irons: MP 18 MMC Wedges: MD PM Grind, 56* and 60* Putter: California Sonoma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 I am not good enough at golf to follow all of the rules. I would hate golf if there were refs on the course telling you what penalty you just committed. On TOUR if you knowingly cheat you should be suspended for a few tournaments. If I cheat it's because I'm not hitting my ball off a cart path, out of a crater, up against a giant pine tree, in rocks... I try to avoid this stuff, but I'm not going to take a chance of ruining my clubs. If I am keeping score for handicap I play by the rules, but if I'm out with my dad just having fun. Who cares. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy dang3rtown, Rekklss, ole gray and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 I am not good enough at golf to follow all of the rules. I would hate golf if there were refs on the course telling you what penalty you just committed. On TOUR if you knowingly cheat you should be suspended for a few tournaments. If I cheat it's because I'm not hitting my ball off a cart path, out of a crater, up against a giant pine tree, in rocks... I try to avoid this stuff, but I'm not going to take a chance of ruining my clubs. If I am keeping score for handicap I play by the rules, but if I'm out with my dad just having fun. Who cares. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy This ^^^^^^^^^^ Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy DawgDaddy, dang3rtown and Rtracymog 3 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 If I cheat it's because I'm not hitting my ball off a cart path, out of a crater, up against a giant pine tree, in rocks... I try to avoid this stuff, but I'm not going to take a chance of ruining my clubs. If I am keeping score for handicap I play by the rules, but if I'm out with my dad just having fun. Who cares. This.... exactly. Shankster, ole gray, Rtracymog and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 This.... exactly.And the thing is all my Tuesday group cheats. You can move it a club length and inside the leather is good. We're just good ole boys betting a little money and having fun. Hell the most you can win is $40.00 and everybody is good with our local rules. I played with some of my old buddies in middle Georgia a few weeks back. You play it down everywhere. Pure golf rules to the extreme. I hit the ball better than the boys I bet with all day however they took my money. I ended up with huge dings in two of my irons hitting the ball off rocks and roots. There's no where to drop the ball without rocks snd roots. DawgDaddy said I should have brought an old beat up 7 iron to punch out of trouble. If I had to do it again, I'd do that. I prefer not to play that way . I haven't been back since then. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rickp, Canucklehead, silver & black and 2 others 5 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 My league has a 6" fluff rule. we're just a bunch of working guys that have fun on Wednesday evenings. Most of the time my partner and I tell whoever we're playing with to put the ball where they have a shot, because we just don't care that much...lol. Golf is supposed to be fun. If you are playing for fun, why not have fun? That said.... I never play like that in a more serious setting. Canucklehead, BIG STU, ole gray and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Sooooo who hasn't cheated in golf at one time or another? I roll the ball in the rough on occasions, I may not mark the ball perfectly, and I have putted with a titty putter recently. My wife loves me, my dog loves me, and all my golfing buddies would be pissed if I didn't show up at the blitz. They know I cheat because they do too. It's a cheating kind of thang with our group however it's all good.... You may not cheat in golf however did you ever tell a lie? Did you ever steal something (piece of candy or your brothers/sisters stuff? Don't judge unless you judge your self first... Gawd I hope the person who phones in rule violations gets a case of the hundred year jock itch! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I'm willing to bet you're not a cheater Old Gray. If your ball rolled in the water and no one was looking would you fish it out or drop one and then tell me it was dry? If your ball was in an unplayable position would you move it and not tell me? If you lost a ball would you not tell me? If you were OB and I didn't know it would you not tell me? That's cheating and I don't think you'd do any of those things to anyone. Now, and since we're not playing a tournament and just playing a weekend game; I don't mind or expect you to play strict rules. I don't. If we discover your ball went OB I say just take a drop add your penalty strokes and keep moving. If you're in an unplayable position... take a reasonable drop with penalty and keep moving. So I call BS on you saying you cheat. BIG STU, JohnSmalls, dadivots and 5 others 8 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 I'm willing to bet you're not a cheater Old Gray. If your ball rolled in the water and no one was looking would you fish it out or drop one and then tell me it was dry? If your ball was in an unplayable position would you move it and not tell me? If you lost a ball would you not tell me? If you were OB and I didn't know it would you not tell me? That's cheating and I don't think you'd do any of those things to anyone. Now, and since we're not playing a tournament and just playing a weekend game; I don't mind or expect you to play strict rules. I don't. If we discover your ball went OB I say just take a drop add your penalty strokes and keep moving. If you're in an unplayable position... take a reasonable drop with penalty and keep moving. So I call BS on you saying you cheat. You're absolutely right PJ. I would not do those things you mentioned above. That kind of stuff would never cross my mind. I was thinking the lax rules my buddies and I use were considered cheating however since we all cheat it would not be an issue. At least for us. I was telling a potential new guy I asked into our group today about us moving the ball off rocks, roots, etc. and he looked at me like, hell I do that anyways. I told him it might not be real golf however you're gonna have one heck of a good time with us. dadivots and silver & black 2 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullldog Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Here is where I disagree. For us, fine but PGA boys no! Ya ain't doing this as a job/career and ain't playing for millions. silver & black, Shankster, Rickp and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Here is where I disagree. For us, fine but PGA boys no! Ya ain't doing this as a job/career and ain't playing for millions. Yup!! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy silver & black 1 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 From the scant information we received via Jack Nicklaus' Masters presser on the Lexi situation, I feel like Danny Lee could be singled out as the serial ball mark violator that was given a "talking to" during the prior Presidents Cup. But I did my homework before making any assumptions.Danny Lee is who I was thinking too but Danny doesn't use a long putter and that's one of the things that was mentioned in the article. The long putter really narrows the group down. Heck if I'm in a bad divot in the fairway I roll it out a little to get a better shot. I play a lot with random people because I work a different schedule than my weekend golf buddies so I tend to play it where it lies more because of it being with people I'm not familiar with and don't want to have them say something. I've played some shots that honestly I never should have tried to do and that most pros wouldn't try but I get a kick out of those shots sometimes. Sent from my LG-H820 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLLand55 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 It's Billy Mayfair. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Undershooter 1 Quote Driver: Under Construction 3 Wood: Under Construction Hybrid: Mizuno CLK 19* Fujikura Speeder EVO 95 X Irons: 4-5 Mizuno Hot Metal Pro / 6-P JPX Forged DG 120 X100 Wedges: Mizuno S18 Black 50/07, 54/12, 58/12 DG 120 X100 Putter: EVNROLL ER5B Black 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downlowkey Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Danny Lee is who I was thinking too but Danny doesn't use a long putter and that's one of the things that was mentioned in the article. The long putter really narrows the group down. Heck if I'm in a bad divot in the fairway I roll it out a little to get a better shot. I play a lot with random people because I work a different schedule than my weekend golf buddies so I tend to play it where it lies more because of it being with people I'm not familiar with and don't want to have them say something. I've played some shots that honestly I never should have tried to do and that most pros wouldn't try but I get a kick out of those shots sometimes. I wasn't venturing a guess as to who Phil was covertly referencing in OP's linked article. Only that Nicklaus gave just enough information during his Masters press conference following the Lexi debacle that with very little digging I was able to zero in on Danny Lee as the player who was the recipient of a stern ball mark lecture during the last Presidents Cup. Quote PXG___0811 X 9* - Mitsubishi Diamana s60 Limited X Cobra___S9-1 Pro 15* - Matrix Ozik XCON 7 S Adams___XTD Forged 3i - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S Adams___CMB 4-PW - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S KZG___Tri-Tour 50.08__54.10__58.12 - Accra iCWT 2.0-95i S Nike___Method Converge B1-01 (copper insert) Maxfli___'23 Tour X "The most important shot in golf is the next one“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Guys one more time with a little oomph.. Its Billy Mayfair and its been going on for decades. Here's a nice little tweet that is very telling if you read the responses.Has a long history of this stuff. edit: spoiler alert, a lot of fellow pros comment. drewneddy and gaussman1 2 Quote Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Regardless of who it is I'm surprised at some of the things I'm reading. Fully agree on the casual round stuff - I could care less what anyone does when we are out playing for fun even with a few bucks on the line so long as we agree to it up front or at some point during the round. But in a tournament or place where we've agreed to play strictly by the rules? Really? This isn't baseball or football where the umps or refs legislate it as we go along - it's golf - it's up to the player to know the rules and abide by them. I'm sure that I've broken a rule in that type of round but generally speaking it's been unwittingly - taking a drop under the lateral water Hazzard rule at a white stake type thing - Instead of skirting the rules we should be trying to play by them to the best of our ability to do so in a tournament setting. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy silver & black and dang3rtown 2 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian A Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Following the sentiments of everyone else, PGA Tour level, not ok, weekend hacker, to some extent alright. My buddy and I talk about it all the time, the courses we play arent PGA tour kept, so the grass is missing in spots or burned out, just general things these guys would have to deal with. Most of the time we just tell the other person move the ball and dont break a club or wrist Quote Driver: G425 9* Hzrdus Smoke Green Small batch 6.5 70g Fairway Wood: Cobra Radspeed Big 3 Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.5 Hybrid: Cobra Aerojet 5 Wood Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.5 Irons: T200 (4-AW) AMT Black Stiff Shafts Wedges: Tour Rack 56* 60* Putter: Scotty Cameron Golo 5 Right Handed Pittsburgh, PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Regardless of who it is I'm surprised at some of the things I'm reading. Fully agree on the casual round stuff - I could care less what anyone does when we are out playing for fun even with a few bucks on the line so long as we agree to it up front or at some point during the round. But in a tournament or place where we've agreed to play strictly by the rules? Really? This isn't baseball or football where the umps or refs legislate it as we go along - it's golf - it's up to the player to know the rules and abide by them. I'm sure that I've broken a rule in that type of round but generally speaking it's been unwittingly - taking a drop under the lateral water Hazzard rule at a white stake type thing - Instead of skirting the rules we should be trying to play by them to the best of our ability to do so in a tournament setting. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I generally don't give a crap about my playing partners fallowing the rules during a casual round but I 100% agree in regards to any type of tournament or competitive setting. At that point, you are protecting the integrity of the field. Sadly I had to call out a hacker in the club championship a few years ago. He really shouldn't have been playing anyway but he did with his 2 buddies and myself in the 1st round. He had trouble making ANY putts and picked up a couple of times. I warned him about it and even told his buddies that he needed to try and finish out if he was going to play in these type of events. The response I got from them was "dude its just a club event, chill out." I told them to take that junk to the scrambles and that if they wanted to play for real in a club championship then they needed to play by the rules. I ended up having to call a couple of penalties on him on the back 9 because he didn't change much. His friends were upset but I told them they were lucky I wasn't a stickler because he should've been DQ'd. Alot of the other people they could've played with at that club would've DQ'd him after the 1st few holes. BIG STU, L.I. Rich, Rickp and 1 other 4 Quote Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0808 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I generally don't give a crap about my playing partners fallowing the rules during a casual round but I 100% agree in regards to any type of tournament or competitive setting. At that point, you are protecting the integrity of the field. Sadly I had to call out a hacker in the club championship a few years ago. He really shouldn't have been playing anyway but he did with his 2 buddies and myself in the 1st round. He had trouble making ANY putts and picked up a couple of times. I warned him about it and even told his buddies that he needed to try and finish out if he was going to play in these type of events. The response I got from them was "dude its just a club event, chill out." I told them to take that junk to the scrambles and that if they wanted to play for real in a club championship then they needed to play by the rules. I ended up having to call a couple of penalties on him on the back 9 because he didn't change much. His friends were upset but I told them they were lucky I wasn't a stickler because he should've been DQ'd. Alot of the other people they could've played with at that club would've DQ'd him after the 1st few holes. Totally agree with you. I have no care in the world if it is a casual round on the weekend and that is how the players I am paired with would like to play. i do have an issue if it is in a tournament setting for sure Undershooter 1 Quote In my bag: Driver: Rogue ST Triple Diamond LS 10.5* (set to 9.5) UST Lin-Q Gunmetal 6f5 Wood: Tsi2 15* Project X RDX Black 70 6.5 Hybrids: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX Irons: Cobra King Tour MIM 4-PW Dynamic Gold 120 X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 3 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400 Putter: Nashville Z1C 34" Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP The Dansome Posted June 13, 2017 SPY VIP Share Posted June 13, 2017 Casual rounds drop it where it went out, bump it if your lie is redonk, that's how our group plays. Tournament though, you better abide by the rules. dadivots, Rickp, dang3rtown and 3 others 6 Quote Yo #JustPlayBetter Follow @GolfSpyMBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWahoo Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 My buds with whom I regularly play and I understand that local rules can be established. Heck, even the pros will play lift, clean and place on a wet course. So we have established our own set of local rules so to speak. If one's ball lies is a divot, we consider it ground under repair. All stakes are either red or yellow, there are no white stakes. We understand that at the venues we play, bunkers are not always properly raked. If one's ball is in a footprint for example, one can rake the bunker and replace the ball. We have what we label the endangerment rule, if your ball lies in an area where your club can be damaged or the player can be physically hurt, the endangerment rule applies ( drop without penalty at the nearest point of relief). ole gray, silver & black, Rickp and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downlowkey Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 To each their own but if you actually care about making them in tournaments, I'd advise you to _always_ putt 'em. I've had gambling buddies try to give me 8 footers because in their words "they've never seen me miss one", their perspective is obviously hyperbole (and a thinly veiled effort to expand my own give radius) but I _always_ putt _everything_ regardless. I don't see any reason to keep score otherwise. But we _are_ a genteel group that does stuff like stand ready to rake bunkers for your playing partner and cleaning up spike mark scuffs in our competitors' lines because they can't officially do it themselves. There are ways to play within the rules and still keep the gambling completely friendly. If I'm giving someone a whooping; just because I start conceding putts on the gambling sheet, doesn't mean they can't turn in a legit handicap round on the official scorecard. However, if we really want to get philosophical about the morality of not always holing out, I believe the only person getting cheated is yourself. Specifically of the opportunity to practice your grit. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote PXG___0811 X 9* - Mitsubishi Diamana s60 Limited X Cobra___S9-1 Pro 15* - Matrix Ozik XCON 7 S Adams___XTD Forged 3i - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S Adams___CMB 4-PW - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S KZG___Tri-Tour 50.08__54.10__58.12 - Accra iCWT 2.0-95i S Nike___Method Converge B1-01 (copper insert) Maxfli___'23 Tour X "The most important shot in golf is the next one“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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