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The toughness of the US Open makes it the one tournament where we might learn from the pros. Whoever wins will have been wise enough to minimize the damage after hitting a bad shot. Bogeys are okay, doubles are death.

 

For 99 percent of us here that holds true - you can bogey forty percent of the holes that you play and break 80 consistently. It's having the discipline to avoid double or worse that helps keep the scores low.

 

It's something that all of us need to think about the next time we are in thick rough or behind a tree - How do I consistently make the lowest possible score from this point forward.

 

 

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The best players know their abilities and know when to fight for a "good bogey". Most people don't understand that a bogey can be a really good score, especially on difficult driving holes.

 

Also, remember that "par" is just a number and the lowest score is all that matters. Scores in relation to par just make it easier for adding and people following on the TV.

 

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I have been playing more strategically this year. A lot of irons off the tees, I can pick a spot with those and it usually ends up within a yard or two laterally, distance depends. But since doing that I find it a lot easier to navigate the courses. Hitting 3 iron or 2 hybrid off the tee is point and shoot. Driver this year is hit or miss.

 

Before I go out each round I look at FunGolf app to map out what I want to do each round. IF I followed it I could get a fairly low score. But for some reason I forget to leave the driver in the bag and punish myself.

 

Going out tomorrow to put it to the test. I should only "need" driver on 3 holes. 3 wood I'll use twice and either 3-5 iron for the rest. In theory I should be able to make a lot of GIR's... now just remembering to not go for broke will be the test.

 

When your 40 yards deep in the woods/fescue... good luck making a triple.

 

 

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Great point Rev!

 

Some of my best rounds aren't birdie fests.  There just rounds where you keep the big numbers out of play.  It may be boring golf, but a bunch of pars and some nice scrambling bogey's don't add up very fast at the end of the day.

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IMHO course strategy (the mental aspect) is the most overlooked part of playing a round.  I play a lot of people I don't know and they will step up to a 495 yard par 5 and immediately reach for driver; won't even look at the card to see what hazards are in play, where they're at, layup points... just grab the big stick and go for it.

 

I wonder how many people use EVERY club in their bag during an 18 hole round.  I mean every single one.

Maybe take that as a challenge next time you play?  Try to use every club and it will make you stop and think about how you play a hole.

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IMHO course strategy (the mental aspect) is the most overlooked part of playing a round. I play a lot of people I don't know and they will step up to a 495 yard par 5 and immediately reach for driver; won't even look at the card to see what hazards are in play, where they're at, layup points... just grab the big stick and go for it.

 

I wonder how many people use EVERY club in their bag during an 18 hole round. I mean every single one.

Maybe take that as a challenge next time you play? Try to use every club and it will make you stop and think about how you play a hole.

I couldn't tell you the last time I actually hit my 5 iron. Also was thinking about it last night, and I only hit driver about 9 times per round at my course. Usually dog leg or getting close to a hazard if it goes the full distance. Where as 3w, 3h, 4i will keep me safe, and providing I don't pull it I have no more than mid iron for my second into the green

 

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Lots of 3 iron, 3 hybrid, and 3 wood off tees on par 4s lately. Why keep hitting driver to a distance where I'm hitting 1/2 shots? I hit 64% of my fairways last time out by doing this... Looks like I'll keep with the plan for awhile!!!

 

 

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I couldn't tell you the last time I actually hit my 5 iron. Also was thinking about it last night, and I only hit driver about 9 times per round at my course. Usually dog leg or getting close to a hazard if it goes the full distance. Where as 3w, 3h, 4i will keep me safe, and providing I don't pull it I have no more than mid iron for my second into the green

 

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Interesting... any particular reason why?  looks like you hit the 4i.  Is it a distance issue?  Would you consider replacing the 5 with maybe another wedge or something?

 

A guy I played with yesterday had 2 putters.  A mallet and blade.  Used the mallet when it was close (kept the face more square, he said)...

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Home course

 

#1 4 iron - 57°

#2 Driver - 4 iron

#3 53°

#4 4 iron - PW/53°

#5 6/7 iron

#6 Driver - 7/8 iron

#7 2hybrid/3 iron - 53°

#8 5 iron - PW

#9 3 iron - 7 iron - 57°

 

#10 4 iron - PW

#11 4 iron - 53°

#12 53°/PW

#13 Driver - 7 iron

#14 8 iron

#15 3 wood - Putter (hopefully)

#16 4 iron - PW

#17 Driver - 4 iron - 57°

#18 4/5/6 iron - 53°/57°

 

Now.. I just need to stick to that game plan.

 

 

 

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The toughness of the US Open makes it the one tournament where we might learn from the pros. Whoever wins will have been wise enough to minimize the damage after hitting a bad shot. Bogeys are okay, doubles are death.

 

It's something that all of us need to think about the next time we are in thick rough or behind a tree - How do I consistently make the lowest possible score from this point forward.

 

 

... Betsy King hit it in the rough to the right with no good shot to the green at a US Open. But her competitor was in the fairway and already hit an iron to 10 feet above the hole so King had no choice but to go for a difficult shot. She punched into the fairway giving away the tournament. She then hit an iron a few feet below the hole. Her competitor had a very fast downhill putt that slid by the hole by quite a bit. King made her putt for par, her competitor missed the comeback and King won. Really made me think if one of the best players in the world didn't try that shot from thick rough, why would I attempt it? It was a turning point in my game.

 

... Later it was brought home again by Annika Sorenstam when she said unless she knew she could pull off a shot 80% of the time, she would not attempt it. And finally DL Jr said "never follow a bad shot with a great shot. Follow a bad shot with a good shot". Limiting a bad shots effect by punching out of the trees instead of trying to fit a shot thru a small window is paramount to managing your game. I see high index players attempting shots a single digit player would never even think of trying. As a good friend of mine that has won multiple club championships told me the secret to his success was just getting the ball back in play and always limiting the damage a bad shot causes. 

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Home course

 

#1 4 iron - 57°

#2 Driver - 4 iron

#3 53°

#4 4 iron - PW/53°

#5 6/7 iron

#6 Driver - 7/8 iron

#7 2hybrid/3 iron - 53°

#8 5 iron - PW

#9 3 iron - 7 iron - 57°

 

#10 4 iron - PW

#11 4 iron - 53°

#12 53°/PW

#13 Driver - 7 iron

#14 8 iron

#15 3 wood - Putter (hopefully)

#16 4 iron - PW

#17 Driver - 4 iron - 57°

#18 4/5/6 iron - 53°/57°

 

Now.. I just need to stick to that game plan.

 

 

 

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You don't carry a 9 iron ??? ;)

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This is my biggest problem and I'm slowly learning to use it. There is one hole on the local course I constantly play, my drive is a very strong fade, they have a tree to the left of the tree box that everytime I pull the driver out, I hit it, yesterday I took the hybrid on the tee box, and wouldnt you know it.. PAR. I think I finally learned to take shots I can hit vs trying something special and ending up double or worse

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You don't carry a 9 iron ??? ;)

I do. It's the shiniest club in my bag. I literally never use it. There is one course I play that the first hole is a 9 iron, but other than that it only gets used if I'm in a weird spot.

 

 

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... Betsy King hit it in the rough to the right with no good shot to the green at a US Open. But her competitor was in the fairway and already hit an iron to 10 feet above the hole so King had no choice but to go for a difficult shot. She punched into the fairway giving away he tournament. She then hit an iron a few feet below the hole. Her competitor had a very fast downhill putt that slid by the hole by quite a bit. King made her putt for par, her competitor missed the comeback and King won. Really made me think if one of the best layers in the world did;t try that shot from thick rough, why would I attempt it? It was a turning point in my game.

 

... Later it was brought home again by Annika Sorenstam when she said unless she knew she could pull off a shot 80% of the time, she would not attempt it. And finally DL Jr said "never follow a bad shot with a great shot. Follow a bad shot with a good shot". Limiting a bad shots effect by punching out of the trees instead of trying to fit a shot thru a small window is paramount to managing your game. I see high index players attempting shots a single digit player would never even think of trying. As a good friend of mine that has won multiple club championships told me the secret to his success was getting the ball back in play and always limiting the damage a bad shot causes. 

 

Great points!  One that I recently heard was along the lines of if you don't think you can get it "there" easily with the club you have in your hand then you've got the wrong club.  For example trying to smash a 3 wood onto the green on a par 5.  So many people see the distance (200+) and reach for their 3 wood thinking that it's the club that they hit that distance and should just go ahead and bash it without even considering the odds of success.  Of course there are times when it is okay but if it's a small green or has a lot of hazards, maybe divide the distance into to 2 shots instead of 1 and think of 2 good/easy swings instead of 1 **great** one.

 

as they always say.... don't beat yourself.

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I do. It's the shiniest club in my bag. I literally never use it. There is one course I play that the first hole is a 9 iron, but other than that it only gets used if I'm in a weird spot.

 

 

- Alan

 

Ever consider replacing it with something else you might use?

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Ever consider replacing it with something else you might use?

Well... no. But now I am. Not sure what I would put in its place. I do need to get my lofts checked.

 

 

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Interesting... any particular reason why? looks like you hit the 4i. Is it a distance issue? Would you consider replacing the 5 with maybe another wedge or something?

 

A guy I played with yesterday had 2 putters. A mallet and blade. Used the mallet when it was close (kept the face more square, he said)...

Definitely use 3w and 4i the most. 3w has a higher flight and a steady draw. 4i is more penetrating and I can hit dead straight or a baby draw. I have considered adding a wedge. Would likely go from 56 60 to 54 58 62. But I would need money to buy those 😂

 

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Great post and thought Rev.

 

Somebody said it here a few weeks back, I believe it was either Burk, downlow, underpar or one of the single digits guys that said "learn to HATE double bogeys and you will score well"  I have taken that advice since then and have tried to live by it.  Really makes a difference when I get in trouble and how I approach the next shot. 

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IMHO course strategy (the mental aspect) is the most overlooked part of playing a round.  I play a lot of people I don't know and they will step up to a 495 yard par 5 and immediately reach for driver; won't even look at the card to see what hazards are in play, where they're at, layup points... just grab the big stick and go for it.

 

I wonder how many people use EVERY club in their bag during an 18 hole round.  I mean every single one.

Maybe take that as a challenge next time you play?  Try to use every club and it will make you stop and think about how you play a hole.

In a manner of speaking, you have fundamentally defined my goals regarding my game.   Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on perception, I can use my driver on Par 4 and 5s, because I can't reach the trouble.   I look forward to the day, when I can say, I shouldn't use the driver.   If I find the need to use a mid-irons, it means that I messed up my second shot and it is more than a pitch and a putt.  I continue to employ my BAS (bunker avoidance shot) because if I land in a sand bunker, I am on an adventure.   But I can say, with the lessons and the sand wedge my instructor ordered for me, I am getting better.  For me, the day I use all my clubs for the proper reasons, it will be a glorious day.

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I do. It's the shiniest club in my bag. I literally never use it. There is one course I play that the first hole is a 9 iron, but other than that it only gets used if I'm in a weird spot.

You "literally" never use your 9-iron; except a certain course where the 1st hole is always a 9-iron? One would think courses changing hole locations or a shift in wind direction might precipitate a departure from your slated 18 hole shot selections. But I suppose when you're never more than 2 yards off line and can smash 2-iron from virtually any lie golf is a pretty easy game.

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