StrokerAce Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Hopefully this comes out right... trying to set up a poll. Do you feel like it is worth it to get fit for a putter? I understand the benefits for irons/woods but putter fitting seems to be relatively new outside of the niche market like Edel and I'm considering going to Club Champion for a fitting but since it is a putter I'm not sure it would be worth the investment since there are a lot fewer moving parts as in a full swing. (I've played with a number of players who can't get up to the green AT ALL but once on the green they seem to be able to putt...) If you've had one can you provide a quick recap on if you thought it was worth it and what it helped you with? putting grip? putter style (blade/mallet/mid-mallet, etc.)? technique? etc... Thanks! Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X/Wilson Triad Buggy- Clicgear 4.0 Bag- Callaway Org 14/Fairway C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSauer Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Have not had one, but my buddy is considering going to Club Champion to get a fitting done as well. IMO, it's definitely worth the money. It's the club you use the most and once you get fit, I feel it gives you some confidence in knowing that your putter is fit exactly to your needs and there's no second guessing the style/type of putter. Driver: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Fairway: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65 Hybrid: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S Hybrid: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80 Irons: P790 5-PW | DG S300 Wedges: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200 Putter: Link.1 | Accra x LAB --- LAB Golf Link.1 Review --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brjpool Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I think it's as important as any other club. Especially considering its the club that you use more than any other Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Bryan Pool Ping G20 Driver Bombtech hybrids Ping G20 green dot irons/wedges Cleveland Huntington beach 6 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McaseyM Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 It is the most important club and the one you'll use on every hole. Golfers will spend so much on a driver every (few) year(s), but tend to go cheap or off the rack flat stick or drop $$$$ on a Circle BS. I haven't gone to anyone for a full professional fitting, just a length and lie measurement. I did get a interactive PDF from the guy where Lumpy from Xenon Putters sends his clients. He can break down a SAM lab fitting, but this will give you most of the info you need. It/he has you film your stroke from directly behind the ball and then based on the video, it goes through step by step process to help make some of the bigger base decisions. It will recommend: 1- General head weight ( light, moderate or heavy) 2- shaft placement ( center, mid or heel) 3- amount of set ( full, 1/2, or none) After that, it's up to you to decide head shape and alignment aid details. For me, it came out to heavy, mid placement with a 1/2 offset, so that's what's coming on my next putter. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy What's in my bag: Driver : F9 10.5, Fujikura Speeder 757 TR Fairway F9 15.5° Aldila Rogue White 80X Hybrid: King F7 18° KBS Tour PROTO Hybrid 95 S+ Irons: z585 4i - 6i, z785 7i-PW, Nippon Modus 120X Wedges: CBX 50.11, 55.11, 60.10 TT DG S400 Black Putter: Honey Badger 34" Ball: Q-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I had one with the SAM lab a few weeks ago. For me it was a bit eye opening. It gave me what loft and lie as well as the type of putter I should be playing. With the help of the pro I had a good idea of what to look for in my next putter. Tried a few out for while till I settled on the ping sigma G Tyne. Knowing what fits your stroke I think is worth the time so you aren't wasting money on a putter that will hurt your game Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamshields1982 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 When I get my next putter I'll make sure to get fit. I think a fitting for all clubs are important Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 After yesterday's 3 rounds where I was burning edge after edge and lagging putts either woefully short or so far past you could fit a Clubhouse between the cup and ball, I would definitely do a putter fitting prior to my next putter purchase just to eliminate any doubt in the equipment. I'm generally an an average putter and I'm sure its mostly me, but I don't need that extra thought in my head that my putter isn't helping me at all. MDGolfHacker TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullldog Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Ok, guess I'm the loner that doesn't believe in putter fitting by pros/club fitters. A person just needs to fine one that looks & feels good to them. Then PRACTICE. I don't think the "great putters" like Jack & others got fit. They picked one or 2 and got good with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Absolutely. Single most important (and sadly, overlooked) fitting in golf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Golf Guy Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Worth it for me at least. I was fit a few years ago and haven't switched putters since bc I'm happy with that part of my game (most of the time). WIT Sta Dry Bag: Driver: '17 M2 Woods: M2 3W and 5W Hybrids: Apex 3h and 5h Irons: MP 18 MMC Wedges: MD PM Grind, 56* and 60* Putter: California Sonoma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txgolfjunkie Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Avoid the big box stores for a 'putter' fitting. It's a matter of a salesman putting every putter in your hand and asking which one you like best...then head to the register. Special shout out to Bob at then GolfSmith who 'fit' me in an Edel E3...which was purchased, received and sold on ebay in record time!! Cobra Connect 5 Competitor - Team Chad King Radspeed 10.5* w/ Hzrdus RDX Blue 60 6.5 tipped 1/2" - Peacoat/Red King Radspeed Big Tour 3 Wood w/ Hzrdus RDX Blue 70 6.5 Tipped 1/2" King Radspeed Tour 5 Wood w/ Motore X F1 70 X Flex King Utility 4 21* w/ Tensei Pro White 100 X Flex King Tour MIM Copper Irons 5-G w/ AMT White X100 Onyx King MIM Black Wedges 55* & 60* w/ AMT White X100 Onyx Spider SR Pro V1x Left Dash Lefty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I am the only person so far to cast a No vote. But I do still think a fitted putter can be helpful and important. Here's why I cast a No vote. Your putter fitting will depend entirely (as will any fitting) on who's doing the fitting. I've had one putter fitting only and it was at the Edel headquarters in Texas and it was a disappointment as far as the overall experience is concerned. Does the putter perform well? Yes... it does actually. But I will tell you, my $$$ fitted Edel putter preforms equal to my OTR $39 Odyssey. Would I go through another putter fitting? It all depends. But certainly not at the Edel Headquarters. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Ok, guess I'm the loner that doesn't believe in putter fitting by pros/club fitters. A person just needs to fine one that looks & feels good to them. Then PRACTICE. I don't think the "great putters" like Jack & others got fit. They picked one or 2 and got good with it. You are not alone. While I would go to a putter fitting just to gather information, I don't think it would tell me what putter I should use. I can tell by making several putts, and it doesn't take many. It either feels good and I can make putts or it doesn't feel good, and I won't get close to the hole. Whenever I go to a golf store, I roll putts. I can putt well with a blade, or not. I can putt well with a mallet, or not. The most important criteria for me is length and weight. Most putters in stores are too long and too light. Once I settle on a putter that has the right feel, then I check the lie. Most putters are too flat. So, I've learned that I need a short, heavy putter with an upright lie angle. Hard to find OTR. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookieBlue7 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 The putter is the most personal club in the bag and the one you use the absolute most in a round. Why would one not get it fitted is my question? A proper fitting ensures many things: Alignment (and which alignment aid or lack of helps you align it properly) Toe hang to fit your stroke Weight to fit your stroke and distance control Return to square (most important combined with alignment) Length/lie/loft Minimize skid (for true roll) Etc, etc, etc The putter is the scoring club. You can get off the tee well, but the object isn't putting it in play, it's putting it in the hole. In The BagDriver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 It's more important than the other clubs. IMO - because they are way more ways to successfully swing a putter than the other clubs. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamshields1982 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 It's a club that tends to be forgotten about. Everyone gets fit for every other club but then just buys a putter cause it looks good or cause the pros use it yet it's not for them. No matter what club it is you should always get fit as everyone has different attributes when it comes to their swing, even with putting. Besides your short game around the green your putting is just as important as it's the part of your game that will help you gain strokes if your good at it Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewneddy Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 You'll use it 60% of the time during a round... putter fitting can't have any negative effects Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemclub Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I think it is important to be fit, especially for length and lie and loft above all else. However, I was chatting with a pro fitter at 2nd swing and he said that fitting someone into a driver is easy. With all the hard numbers on swing speed, launch angle, release, etc.. you can dial in a shaft to suit that person's swing in a formulaic way. Putting is different. You can try to fit for swing arc but sometimes players just happen to roll the high arc putter better with a SBST swing. A lot of other things related to liking the look at address. Putters are so varied in terms of style—more so than any other club. So there is no hard formula for success in fitting putters (although Edel might disagree). I think we all understand that if you have confidence with the putter—more putts start going in. You would stick with that Walmart special if you drained 3 10 footers in a row. Bag: Bennington Quiet Organizer 9-Lite (link) Cart: 3.5+ Driver: F9 speedback, Accra iWood Woods: Sonartec GS Tour 14*, Fujikura Six S DI: T-MB 2 iron, KBS Tour-V 120 X, Irons: PP-9003SN 4-GW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff Wedges: 1957 K-grind SW, LW, Nippon 1150GH Stiff Putter: EXO Indianapolis (link) Ball: MTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brjpool Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Ok, guess I'm the loner that doesn't believe in putter fitting by pros/club fitters. A person just needs to fine one that looks & feels good to them. Then PRACTICE. I don't think the "great putters" like Jack & others got fit. They picked one or 2 and got good with it. I guess you'll be the odd one out lol!!! I'll let you test out the Huntington Beach one I'll be reviewing when we play together and see how you like it Ping G20 driver through wedges Bombtech blade putter Bryan Pool Ping G20 Driver Bombtech hybrids Ping G20 green dot irons/wedges Cleveland Huntington beach 6 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullldog Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I guess you'll be the odd one out lol!!! I'll let you test out the Huntington Beach one I'll be reviewing when we play together and see how you like it Ping G20 driver through wedges Bombtech blade putter One handed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brjpool Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 One handed Well of course!!! Ping G20 driver through wedges Bombtech blade putter Bryan Pool Ping G20 Driver Bombtech hybrids Ping G20 green dot irons/wedges Cleveland Huntington beach 6 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 ....thanks for the great content so far gents! sounds like there are really good arguments on both sides. after having-not-much-success with my newly acquired Ping Ketsch I put my all original 1984 Spalding TPMills #9 blade (which I got at Goodwill for 4.99) into play. long story short my Ping is up for sale on Ebay and I will be using the proceeds for a putter fitting at my local Club Champion; if I can have as many 2 and 3 putts with a 5 dollar putter as I do with a 100 dollar one with all sorts of technology built into it then something must be off. Can't wait to find out what! This whole conversation does make me wonder.... are some people just naturally good at putting? I tend to thinks so... similar to some people are just naturally good at shooting rifles at targets (this is the best comparison I could think of having been in the military and seen it). I don't think you can be naturally good at hitting other clubs in your bag - you need to work at it and perfect it - but I think some people just have a knack at seeing the line understanding the pace and contacting the ball... Would love to hear your thoughts... Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X/Wilson Triad Buggy- Clicgear 4.0 Bag- Callaway Org 14/Fairway C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullldog Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Some have a "better eye" but it comes down to practice. The one handed post I made is kind of a inside joke... I was playing terrible so I gave up & was putting one handed & making putts or dang near. Also it just wasn't that round, done it several times, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDubya23 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 You'll have to let me know how Club Champion goes. There is one a couple hours from me, near St. Louis, that I'm most likely going to try and go to in the near future. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Ping G 9.5* Fairway: TaylorMade AeroBurner Hybrid: Adams Blue Irons: TaylorMade Burner 2.0 Wedges: TaylorMade Tour Preferred EF Putter: Odyssey O-Works #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 You'll have to let me know how Club Champion goes. There is one a couple hours from me, near St. Louis, that I'm most likely going to try and go to in the near future. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Will do! Thankfully I have one that's pretty close and I'm excited about how they use the SAM lab to help identify what would work best. From what I've read it sounds like there's not a lot of pressure to buy either as there can sometimes be with drivers & irons. Apparently you can buy something they recommend elsewhere and bring it back to get it adjusted (i.e. loft/lie, etc.) to the specs you were fit to. Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X/Wilson Triad Buggy- Clicgear 4.0 Bag- Callaway Org 14/Fairway C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookieBlue7 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Will do! Thankfully I have one that's pretty close and I'm excited about how they use the SAM lab to help identify what would work best. From what I've read it sounds like there's not a lot of pressure to buy either as there can sometimes be with drivers & irons. Apparently you can buy something they recommend elsewhere and bring it back to get it adjusted (i.e. loft/lie, etc.) to the specs you were fit to. That's because of how their business model is built. Equipment margins aren't what they used to be in sales, so they make their cash off of labor (fitter spending time with you) and adjustments. It's genius, honestly. They don't have the inventory issues stores do, the clubs they do sell are bonuses, but their money is made when they spend their time with you and make adjustments for you. They'll provide you a detailed spec list of every club they fit you into. You can buy from them or wherever and they don't care. Their money is made in the fitting. In The BagDriver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I've never had a putter fitting on purpose. I had a teaching golf pro friend back in CT who would stop by when I was on the practice green summer evenings and watch me for a few minutes. After a bit he would come over throw the bull for a few then ease into a few suggestions. It was definitely helpful. Always good to have another set of eyes to help. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDque Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 While a putter fitting is useful, there's nothing like using them on the course. It feels like those turf practice areas are built to make every putt go in. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhartmann34 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I think so. I had one and found it quite interesting. It's awesome how a few changes in loft and even grip size can make a big difference 🙂 Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk Driver: G400 (8*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Fairway: G400 (14.5*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Irons: Crossover 3 iron (19*) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shaft AP3 (4/5) and AP2 (6-PW) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Wedges: Scor 50*, 54*, and 58* with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Putter: Pro Platinum Newport 2 Midslant Handicap: 3 Location: Illinois...until i can get my wife to move to a warmer climate Right Handed: Although sometimes I wonder if left handed would suit me better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uno1337 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Through my old career Ive been fitted by Cameron studio, Taylormade Kingdom and the Nike Oven. I had equipment contracts over the years with a few manufacturers. They all fitted me relatively similar but that meant absolutely nothing with day to day performance. They all fitted me into Newport/Anser style putters 34" from 350-360g heads and a few degrees flatter than the arbitrary "standard". The problem is, Ive had plenty or 2-Balls,Spiders,Bettinardi bb40's, face balanced belly putters, golo's, rifes and odyssey fangs or tank fangs that have all been absolutely fine. My garage looks like a schizophrenics attempt at a putter collection. I'm using an old buttonback right now but I'd have no problem with my favorite off the rack original 2Ball white hot with the fluted shaft. And NO ONE fit me into that thing. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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