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No excuse for not being fit. Especially when fitters usually waive their charge or discount it if you buy through them.

 

That said... I'm going to say "retail price" keeps people from getting fit. Guessing most golfers buy from eBay or internet looking for the best deal.

 

 

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The average person does not see results for the money and time spent for a fitting.

Thats just the way they see it and thats the way it works for them when they play.

Zero return.

Years in the desert and all the demo days all over lead to most walking away with a '2 up'.

This was the norm for some reason.... but to be sure people would get there, get the ball up in the air and moving, and walk away with the latest and greatest 2 up set many times. And those getting serious would mention such a thing with their old set, hit the new standard set they were looking at, and put the new set in the bag never be fitted again. Fitting has come a long way but its still not the nirvana for most that it can be claimed to be. It is a tech sellers best friend now and the guy that can put you on the tee and dial you in after all the new indoor 'math' is done is the fiiter I know. Mine will give you 2-3 different irons or woods and say bring them back in week and let me know. Helluvaguy.

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I agree. Getting fit is crucial. BUT cost is not something to scoff at.

$800 - driver

$700 - woods

$200 - /iron & wedges

 

It is a huge investment. I have kept the same wedges for 5 years just because of this.

 

I have wondered though, if there are fitters here...

I have done the mizuno type fitting for giggles. Any thoughts on that process (mizuno shaft optimizer) vs a "pro" fitting with shaft frequency etc.

 

 

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Is there an underlying negative feeling towards being fit by a manufacturer's tech, vs. getting fit by a professional fitter? I've told this story a few times on the boards, but I honestly believe that it could help people so here I am being a parrot again.

 

I went to a demo day at a range on 6/10. All the big names were there: Callaway, TM, Ping, Cobra, Titleist. Two weeks prior, I went to a TM demo at the same range, but this was a bigger thing where all of the reps were in attendance. I left the TM demo the other week pretty satisfied, but I wanted to try the new Epic (I am lucky enough to have friends that can get me discounts on TM and Callaway) to see which one I liked more.

 

The process was similar to TM with one huge difference, the Callaway guys had a Trackman. They started me out with my current driver to get a base. My spin was way too high (mostly because this was an off the rack driver I bought back in '06, in R-flex because I had no idea what my swing speed was) and they immediately told me to put it back in the bag. I think I was in the 4.4k range for spin, and it had some decent side spin on it as well.

 

Over the next hour they had me take my time and focus on putting a good swing, using the same effort each time, while they tried different shafts, and adjusted the weight. We finally found the best shaft combo and weight position in the Epic. My numbers were solid in the low 2k's, and I was hitting a baby cut ~3 yards at most. The best part was that I could SEE the ball going down the range. An actual ball, going out and landing on real grass, no simulators. I work in IT, so I trust technology, but there's no better peace of mind than the actual range IMO.

 

With that said, would my experience have been any different at a certified professional fitter, putting me in shafts that are way more than I want to spend? I hit a green yesterday from 320 out for the first time ever, and only missed 1 fairway on the front 9, and didn't have to pay a single dollar for my fitting. I implore everyone, please see if there's a demo day at a course near you and check it out. Maybe I got lucky with the Trackman? I didn't notice if any of the other reps had one, but if they do have them when you go, get on it!

I'd love to see something like that here. We do have demo days at some of the courses in this area but we never get all the big companies in at once. The one time I bought a driver at a Taylormade demo day, the rep just eyed my ball flight and tried to fit me based on that and I ended up with an R15 that I was never comfortable with. I need to find one with a trackman.

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I agree. Getting fit is crucial. BUT cost is not something to scoff at.

$800 - driver

$700 - woods

$200 - /iron & wedges

 

It is a huge investment. I have kept the same wedges for 5 years just because of this.

 

I have wondered though, if there are fitters here...

I have done the mizuno type fitting for giggles. Any thoughts on that process (mizuno shaft optimizer) vs a "pro" fitting with shaft frequency etc.

 

 

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Those prices are crazy for the fittings. Are you talking about the fitting cost or the cost of the equipment after the fitting? That would make more sense if they fitted you into exotic shafts. All the fitting places I've seen anywhere near me, within a 6 hour drive, charge $150 at the most for a driver fitting but I imagine they'll charge plenty for the equipment you get fitted for.

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No excuse for not being fit. Especially when fitters usually waive their charge or discount it if you buy through them.

 

That said... I'm going to say "retail price" keeps people from getting fit. Guessing most golfers buy from eBay or internet looking for the best deal.

 

 

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In my case, this simply isn't true.

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I agree. Getting fit is crucial. BUT cost is not something to scoff at.

$800 - driver

$700 - woods

$200 - /iron & wedges

 

It is a huge investment. I have kept the same wedges for 5 years just because of this.

 

I have wondered though, if there are fitters here...

I have done the mizuno type fitting for giggles. Any thoughts on that process (mizuno shaft optimizer) vs a "pro" fitting with shaft frequency etc.

 

 

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Holy crap those are some ridiculous prices! I would hope the driver or wood fitting includes whatever driver/shaft combo you want. Those are PXG prices.

Funny that the driver would be that much considering it's one of the clubs you should use the least.

 

 

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First off... I agree that the cost can be prohibitive.... that said, here's my experience.

 

I'd been buying sets of irons every couple years.  My most recent purchase was a set of Callaway Apex irons.  I'd been to a couple "demo days" and I was always standard....whatever that means.  I'm 5'10", right handed, about 180 pounds... probably right in the sweet spot for OTR stuff... average height, weight, arm length, etc.

 

I was doing OKAY with my sets but I figured that if I wanted to take that next step I needed to get fit....also so that I would stop selling my current set/buying a different set each year...

 

Here's how my 'cost' broke down:

Last winter I sold my Callaways on Ebay for 425.  I bought them from callawaypreowned for 450.  

I bought an iron/hybrid fitting for 100

I described my game to the fitter, told him I was interested in trying the single length irons and he fit me into a set of Wishon Sterlings + a Titleist hybrid.

I paid $915 for the hybrid and 5-PW

 

So... 

915 (irons/hybrid) + 100 (fitting) = 1015 - 425 (sold irons) = 590 for set of irons fitted to me.

 

Fortunately I had a couple of other golf things I sold & had made some $$ from DFS during football season so out-of-pocket it ended up being around 125 bucks for a new set of irons fit for me.

 

The one thing that seems to be overlooked is that I had the option to buy individual irons.

So, I could have bought the 5/7/9 and cut my price down... then, when I had additional funds, come back for the 6/8/P... or whatever combo I wanted.

It was very pleasing to know that I had that option; the gaps between my irons are only around 10 yards so could easily choke down on a 5 to get a 6i distance... or whatever.

 

Now that I've done it and played with my irons the jury is still out.  I can't say for sure that it was worth it until the end of the season.... time will tell.

 

One last thing - If I wasn't "average" size/weight/etc.... if I was like 6'5" or 5"4" or something like that I would definitely get fit... I just don't see how guys like that can play OTR clubs.

 

Good luck all... now, let's debate on whether it is more cost-effective to pay for lessons or a fitting.  HAHAHA    :lol: 

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Until I started to travel with work a few years ago, living in rural Louisiana, I never had access to a fitter that had all of the heads and shafts. It wasn't until after a trip I won to Callaway in California did I ever find that place that I hit out of a bay on to a range, and they had every component, plus the technology, to give me my first fitting. My fitting at Miles of Golf back in my hometown in Michigan pretty much showed me that everything Callaway gave me was off. The technology was the difference...

I had gone to demo days and gone through their "fittings", but as I read in an article by a Mizuno tech rep recently, they don't usually have stuff at demo days for folks that are tall like me, have large hands, and swing the driver at a good pace.

The Callaway "fitting" experience taught me that not ALL "fittings" are the same, or even accurate.

Anyway, I was just never near a place that really had all of the bells and whistles to do what I call a REAL fitting.

 

 

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Until I started to travel with work a few years ago, living in rural Louisiana, I never had access to a fitter that had all of the heads and shafts. It wasn't until after a trip I won to Callaway in California did I ever find that place that I hit out of a bay on to a range, and they had every component, plus the technology, to give me my first fitting. My fitting at Miles of Golf back in my hometown in Michigan pretty much showed me that everything Callaway gave me was off. The technology was the difference...

I had gone to demo days and gone through their "fittings", but as I read in an article by a Mizuno tech rep recently, they don't usually have stuff at demo days for folks that are tall like me, have large hands, and swing the driver at a good pace.

The Callaway "fitting" experience taught me that not ALL "fittings" are the same, or even accurate.

Anyway, I was just never near a place that really had all of the bells and whistles to do what I call a REAL fitting.

 

 

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I'd love to get fit at Miles of Golf! I like that you are hitting out to a range so you can see the actual ball flight. It's about 3 hours from my hometown in Michigan. I wonder if I should schedule a fitting next time we head up that way to visit the family.

 

 

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I'd love to get fit at Miles of Golf! I like that you are hitting out to a range so you can see the actual ball flight. It's about 3 hours from my hometown in Michigan. I wonder if I should schedule a fitting next time we head up that way to visit the family.

 

 

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It really is worth it. They were the first to use computers and cameras to measure the TRUE angle of my club at impact with a 6-iron so that I had the ACTUAL number I needed to determine my degree upright/flat. So many just use lie boards, but that has been shown to be inaccurate. My fitter at MOG showed me on-screen that at impact I was at 60*/61* lie angle, this is standard loft and NOT the 2* up that all previous fitters had guessed at since I'm so tall. Lie boards showed this too, so I always thought I was a 2*up plus an inch... Turns out, I'm "standard" lie with most sets, +1"... Crazy! Yeah, MOG is WELL worth it, and they didn't pressure me to buy from them.

 

 

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Holy crap those are some ridiculous prices! I would hope the driver or wood fitting includes whatever driver/shaft combo you want. Those are PXG prices.

Funny that the driver would be that much considering it's one of the clubs you should use the least.

 

 

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So the fitting is "free". The cost is the cost of the club. Head and shaft. (Ex Titleist/TM/Callaway head: $500, shaft $200-300 range)

 

Basically what a club would retail for off the shelf and then whatever shaft they deem fit for you.

Shafts:

My driver is a Diamana White Board.

3wd is a Diamana BlueBoard.

Hybrid is a Project X.

Irons are TT Rifle Flighted.

 

I think I am going to try a new fitting place though after these guys. I came into it not really knowing much. And now more skeptical which is why I wonder about Mizzy's Shaft Optimizer...

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It really is worth it. They were the first to use computers and cameras to measure the TRUE angle of my club at impact with a 6-iron so that I had the ACTUAL number I needed to determine my degree upright/flat. So many just use lie boards, but that has been shown to be inaccurate. My fitter at MOG showed me on-screen that at impact I was at 60*/61* lie angle, this is standard loft and NOT the 2* up that all previous fitters had guessed at since I'm so tall. Lie boards showed this too, so I always thought I was a 2*up plus an inch... Turns out, I'm "standard" lie with most sets, +1"... Crazy! Yeah, MOG is WELL worth it, and they didn't pressure me to buy from them.

 

 

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In your opinion, do you think you would have been as satisfied if you weren't hitting into an open range?

 

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Mine was always due to the lack of options in the general vicinity. Everything within an hour drive is a big box store. The one range that does fittings charges a lot, and I went there once for an iron fitting and didn't like the experience for the price I paid

 

 

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I did a driver fitting like 2 years ago because I just wasn't happy with the current stick I was playing. Finally found a place near me that did range fitings, although it was off a mat, so I could see the flight rather than rely on simulation. I was gonna order the driver but had some issues come up which didn't allow me to spend my money on that anymore. I wasn't totally on board with all the suggestions for the fitter, my swing was all over the place during that time. 6 months later my wife got me a couple lessons for Father's day, best money ever spent on my game. Playing some great golf now, Indian not arrow. Would have been in the same spot soon with that new driver without the lessons. I do see the benefit of getting fitted and I really hope that the next big purchase I can go through a fitting. At least now I feel confident in my swing and it is more repeatable to give me more reliable numbers to go off of

 

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I think for most people it's a money thing. I was certified to fit by a PGA pro and I do it for people the best I can without the monitor which basically leaves me to just loft lie and length. I also worked at a ping top 100 fitter and golf digest top 100 facility and we charged 100$ for a single fitting with 25$ off the club or set and we had a full bag fit for 275 with 100 dollars off your purchase. It can get pricey but it's worth the investment

 

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I try to do my best getting as much for free as possible when it comes to golf information. Often times you can cross reference a quick length/lie fitting on a launch monitor with the general concepts online to get a solid fit. It may take trial and error but if you invest the research time, you can save yourself the sales pitch a fitter will hit you with.

 

 

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I don't think it would be as good of a fitting.

 

 

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This is what I feel as well.

 

I believe the people who think that the sales guys are just out to get them would have a change of heart if they went to an open range fitting where the fitter still has some type of launch monitor. ESPECIALLY, if you don't know your current swing speed.

 

Like I said, I had no previous knowledge of how fast my swing was. I was averaging 105, and my driver at the time was a regular flex. I had what felt like an impossible time controlling where my ball was going off the tee. If I played the inevitable fade that was going to result, I was giving up at least 30 yards. The 9 holes I played on Thursday just proved what I had already been thinking to myself - I drove a green that was 320 out. 320, no wind, but the tee was elevated above the green. For me, that is a distance that I'd just never seen before. Here's a flyover of the hole, I thought I carried into the bunker, but my ball was on the back fringe of the green:

 

 

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