Dchallon Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Wanted to start a post on my journey with the EVNROLL ER2. It's coming in the mail today or tomorrow and I'm convinced it's going to be a staple in the bag for a long time. I had before been a Scotty Cameron guy and even an Odyssey Tank #7 for awhile. But I was due up for some change and when I went to go demo a bunch I settled on the ER2. The ones I went to demo overall several days included: Taylormade Spider Tour Bettinardi Queen B 8 Ping Sigma G Tyne Ping Sigma G Doon Scotty Cameron 5W Envroll ER2 Clearly I though I was headed the Mallet direction but actually the ER2 and the Queen B 8 were my favorite two and they are the more stretched blade style. It was honestly a huge toss up between the Queen B8 and the ER2 but I found I was more consistent with the ER2. Plus, I loved their lighter option jumbo grip. So I made the call, got fitted, and pulled the trigger on it. I'll follow up soon when it arrives and include pictures and hopefully some video with my GoPro. Not sure what the goal of the post is other than to give an average-joe putter review that will be honest, probably "make-fun-of-worthy", and give some valuable insight. Be Back Soon, David Challoner Driver: Callaway EPIC, 8.5 Degree, Aldila Rogue 75 Max, X-Flex Woods: Callaway Steelhead XR 4+, 16*, Diamana Whiteboard X-Flex Iron Specs: Srixon U65 2i, Srixon 765 3i-6i, Srixon 965 7i-PW, Project X 6.5 Wedges: Mizuno Wedges, 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5 Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Dexterity: Right-Handed Location: Champaign, IL HCP: 6.9 "Slow, Smooth, and Finish" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McaseyM Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Thanks for sharing and looking forward to your story development! Good final choices, that queen b 8 is such a sweet putter. I've played a mallet for the last several years, but to going to a wide body blade myself. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy What's in my bag: Driver : F9 10.5, Fujikura Speeder 757 TR Fairway F9 15.5° Aldila Rogue White 80X Hybrid: King F7 18° KBS Tour PROTO Hybrid 95 S+ Irons: z585 4i - 6i, z785 7i-PW, Nippon Modus 120X Wedges: CBX 50.11, 55.11, 60.10 TT DG S400 Black Putter: Honey Badger 34" Ball: Q-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I'm curious if you consider yourself to be a good consistent putter or do you seem to always struggle putting. In other words.... Some people are just good putters I believe and others are not. Which are you? My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dchallon Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 I'm curious if you consider yourself to be a good consistent putter or do you seem to always struggle putting. In other words.... Some people are just good putters I believe and others are not. Which are you? I'm a relatively consistent putter I'd say! My coach and I having slowly been working on a switch from a left hand low grip back to a traditional grip and I found that the Odyssey Tank 7 just wasn't a good fit anymore after the change. But overall I usually average about 28-33 putts per 18 depending on the course. But I see what you mean! This definitely isn't about a switch because I'm struggling or anything like that though! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy David Challoner Driver: Callaway EPIC, 8.5 Degree, Aldila Rogue 75 Max, X-Flex Woods: Callaway Steelhead XR 4+, 16*, Diamana Whiteboard X-Flex Iron Specs: Srixon U65 2i, Srixon 765 3i-6i, Srixon 965 7i-PW, Project X 6.5 Wedges: Mizuno Wedges, 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5 Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Dexterity: Right-Handed Location: Champaign, IL HCP: 6.9 "Slow, Smooth, and Finish" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckymeyer Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I made the Evnroll switch over the winter (went with ER5) and love it. It took a while to get used to the distance control for me though. I found myself leaving everything short early, then blowing them by until I settled down and figured out the feel. Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_edels Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Following your journey! I'm very intrigued by the EVNROLL lines and the ER2 or ER5 are going to be my next purchase. Looking forward to hearing what you have to say about the ER2. Did you test any other models besides the ER2? Good luck! Ping G400 LST 10.5* Callaway GBB Epic Sub Zero 13.5* Srixon Z U85 #2 Utility Iron Cobra Forged Tec 4-GW Ping Glide 54*, 60* Odyssey EXO Stroke Lab 7 Mini Snell MTB Black / Srixon Z Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dchallon Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 Following your journey! I'm very intrigued by the EVNROLL lines and the ER2 or ER5 are going to be my next purchase. Looking forward to hearing what you have to say about the ER2. Did you test any other models besides the ER2? Good luck! Thanks! And yes besides the list I provided above I tried the ER8 as well! I just found the acoustics to be a bit different and preferred the sound of the ER2 a bit more!! David Challoner Driver: Callaway EPIC, 8.5 Degree, Aldila Rogue 75 Max, X-Flex Woods: Callaway Steelhead XR 4+, 16*, Diamana Whiteboard X-Flex Iron Specs: Srixon U65 2i, Srixon 765 3i-6i, Srixon 965 7i-PW, Project X 6.5 Wedges: Mizuno Wedges, 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5 Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Dexterity: Right-Handed Location: Champaign, IL HCP: 6.9 "Slow, Smooth, and Finish" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 hallon, you sound like me in that you're generally a good putter. I've only had one putter fitting but didn't gain anything from it other than now owning an overly expensive putter. I found my putting didn't improve or get worse. I'm still a good putter. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dchallon Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 hallon, you sound like me in that you're generally a good putter. I've only had one putter fitting but didn't gain anything from it other than now owning an overly expensive putter. I found my putting didn't improve or get worse. I'm still a good putter. Only time will tell I guess!! I'm sure they're will be some getting used to it, but I agree that no new putter will magically shave off 3-6 strokes a round. With that being said putter technology has changed in the last 5-6 years and I'm interested to see what the ER2 will do performance and confidence wise! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy David Challoner Driver: Callaway EPIC, 8.5 Degree, Aldila Rogue 75 Max, X-Flex Woods: Callaway Steelhead XR 4+, 16*, Diamana Whiteboard X-Flex Iron Specs: Srixon U65 2i, Srixon 765 3i-6i, Srixon 965 7i-PW, Project X 6.5 Wedges: Mizuno Wedges, 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5 Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Dexterity: Right-Handed Location: Champaign, IL HCP: 6.9 "Slow, Smooth, and Finish" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_edels Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Thanks! And yes besides the list I provided above I tried the ER8 as well! I just found the acoustics to be a bit different and preferred the sound of the ER2 a bit more!! How would you describe that sound? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G400 LST 10.5* Callaway GBB Epic Sub Zero 13.5* Srixon Z U85 #2 Utility Iron Cobra Forged Tec 4-GW Ping Glide 54*, 60* Odyssey EXO Stroke Lab 7 Mini Snell MTB Black / Srixon Z Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dchallon Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 How would you describe that sound? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy A more muted sound, the ER2 had a crisp metal sounds to it comparatively that I just liked better!! David Challoner Driver: Callaway EPIC, 8.5 Degree, Aldila Rogue 75 Max, X-Flex Woods: Callaway Steelhead XR 4+, 16*, Diamana Whiteboard X-Flex Iron Specs: Srixon U65 2i, Srixon 765 3i-6i, Srixon 965 7i-PW, Project X 6.5 Wedges: Mizuno Wedges, 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5 Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Dexterity: Right-Handed Location: Champaign, IL HCP: 6.9 "Slow, Smooth, and Finish" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Be sure to post your pictures and thoughts in the Evnroll review thread! https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/17696-official-forum-member-review-evnroll-putters/page-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dchallon Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 Be sure to post your pictures and thoughts in the Evnroll review thread! https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/17696-official-forum-member-review-evnroll-putters/page-12 I'll definitely put them on there as well. Got a notification that the package is awaiting me at home..... the anticipation is killing me ha! David Challoner Driver: Callaway EPIC, 8.5 Degree, Aldila Rogue 75 Max, X-Flex Woods: Callaway Steelhead XR 4+, 16*, Diamana Whiteboard X-Flex Iron Specs: Srixon U65 2i, Srixon 765 3i-6i, Srixon 965 7i-PW, Project X 6.5 Wedges: Mizuno Wedges, 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5 Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Dexterity: Right-Handed Location: Champaign, IL HCP: 6.9 "Slow, Smooth, and Finish" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I'll definitely put them on there as well. Got a notification that the package is awaiting me at home..... the anticipation is killing me ha! Roll it well dude. I love mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBT Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Definitely interested in this, I consider myself to be a very good putter and I've been using the Odyssey #7 shape in various models for several years, but I'm always willing to experiment with new putters. How quickly does the ball start rolling off the face? Too me that's the first thing I look for in a new putter. XR Driver Matrix Ozik 8m3 Black Tie Shaft King F7 3W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 5W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 4 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft PXG 0211 DC 5-PW Mitsubishi MMT 80 Shafts RTX ZIPCORE 50*,54*,58* UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts Metal X Milled #7 with SuperStroke 2.0 grip MTB Twitter: @timldotson Instagram: timldotson Facebook: TimDotson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Definitely interested in this, I consider myself to be a very good putter and I've been using the Odyssey #7 shape in various models for several years, but I'm always willing to experiment with new putters. How quickly does the ball start rolling off the face? Too me that's the first thing I look for in a new putter. Check out stage 2 of my review in the thread I linked. I posted slow motion video of the Evnroll vs my Scotty. Fitting (correct loft) play a big role in it, but the grooves definitely play a part too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBT Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Check out stage 2 of my review in the thread I linked. I posted slow motion video of the Evnroll vs my Scotty. Fitting (correct loft) play a big role in it, but the grooves definitely play a part too Thanks I'll take a look XR Driver Matrix Ozik 8m3 Black Tie Shaft King F7 3W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 5W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 4 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft PXG 0211 DC 5-PW Mitsubishi MMT 80 Shafts RTX ZIPCORE 50*,54*,58* UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts Metal X Milled #7 with SuperStroke 2.0 grip MTB Twitter: @timldotson Instagram: timldotson Facebook: TimDotson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dchallon Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 UPDATE #1: The ER2 finally came yesterday! I showed up at home and ripped apart a pristine box to see it. Then of course like any “normal†golfer I sped to my local putting green. At first glance without hitting a ball the look of the ER2 is clean and not too long or wide. I think EVNROLL struck a good balance in size. Weight wise, I went with the middle-weighted head at 370g. I also opted for the ‘oversize' grip that really isn't that overwhelming (see photo below). Just to note the jumbo grip is the 62g version not the 117g version. Before I get any further the full specs are: EVNROLL ER2 Length: 32.5†Lie: 69 Degrees Loft: 2 Degrees Head weight: 370g Grip: Oversize: 62g WHAT I LOVED: DISTANCE CONTROL – I took me a minute or two to understand that the ER2 doesn't come off the face ‘hot' it just rolls really really pure (and by that I probably mean very quickly). So honestly the first 10 balls I hit (from 15ft) I ran 9 of 10 either in the hole firmly or a good foot past. But the incredible thing is they all went the same EXACT distance (I mean literally the balls must be dating because they were all over each other lol). Once I got the feel of it rolling quickly it was easy to dial it in. SOUND – The sound out of the middle of the face of the putter is a crisp metal ‘ting'. What I love the most is that if you're on either side of center the sound is different (still going the same distance, though) and gives immediate feedback. I don't have an putter design skills but my guess is the sound differences have something to do with variable width and depth grooves. (Tried to include a photo of that as well. GRIP and HEADCOVER – Besides the white and red being absolutely baller (new terms kids are using these days) there other things I loved. The oversize grip really isn't too big and fits my weird hands well. I run my right index finger down the grip so the length is a great fit as well. The headcover is premium but the thing I loved the most is the magnet closure. It's not heavy Velcro (which used to scratch up my old Scotty) and it's not a thin long weak strip of magnet up the whole backside of the headcover. It's encloses the putter with one round heavy-duty magnet at the bottom. This is a big deal because it doesn't scratch and the magnet holds the cover on well. It might seem small but it's telling me ENVROLL is going the extra mile even with tiny things. WHAT I WOULDâ€VE LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENT: ALIGNMENT – There really isn't anything I disliked/hated and the ER2 thus far, but just to note some improvements for the next line. In terms of alignment I like the white line for alignment, but there are these two dots that signal the middle of the putter face. They're not bad but on a sunny day (like it was yesterday) I feel like I almost have to look for them. For me, it would be a simple fix as paint filling the dots black (or even EVNROLL RED!!). GRIP CAP – The last thing was the cap at the top of the grip. It seemed like ENVROLL went the whole nine yards with the entire putter until the cap of the grip at the top. It seemed like the cap just sort of got slapped on there at the end. It probably won't even matter to anyone but the way I hold the putter I like the butt of my left palm near the end of the grip (In my head it makes me ‘feel' the weight of the head a little better). Super small detail, so I know I'm getting a bit picky. WHAT I WOULD SCORE IT (through the first 100+ putts): Performance: 24/25 (For the small roll adjustment) Looks: 23/25 (Incredible besides the two-dot thing) Feel: 25/25 (Enough said) Build Quality: 24/25 (Would be perfect besides grip cap) OVERALL: 96/100 PHOTOS: (plus see conclusion at very bottom) CONCLUSION: It is going in the bag for the next 5 rounds or so to get the real test! Headed the play Bellerive CC in Saint Louis over the 4th (Home of the 2013 Kitchen Aid Senior PGA Championship) and Glen Echo CC in Saint Louis as well (Home of the only US Olympic Golf Course). So, the ER2 will get some incredible tests. Be back with another update/new scoring after I get a bigger sample size. Don't want the jump the gun quite yet! (But this could be a long-term gamer). P.S. Videos will come after the 4th as well!! All the best, Dave David Challoner Driver: Callaway EPIC, 8.5 Degree, Aldila Rogue 75 Max, X-Flex Woods: Callaway Steelhead XR 4+, 16*, Diamana Whiteboard X-Flex Iron Specs: Srixon U65 2i, Srixon 765 3i-6i, Srixon 965 7i-PW, Project X 6.5 Wedges: Mizuno Wedges, 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5 Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Dexterity: Right-Handed Location: Champaign, IL HCP: 6.9 "Slow, Smooth, and Finish" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hula Rock Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 dont know if they fixed it, but keep an eye out on the ball marker, it like to jump off the putter cover. Great Review BTW..... Driver: M3 Tensei CK Pro Blue3-Metal:: GBB EPIC, FujiKura Pro Green 5-Metal: F-7, FujiKura Pro Irons: MP-18 SC, KBS Tour 120 Wedges: RTX-3 52 - 56 - 60Putter: EVN-Roll ER-5 Ball : Tour B XS Range Finder: Busnnell Tour-X, Garmin S20 Follow me: @Hula_Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dchallon Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 UPDATE #2: 18 (41). 14 (37). 15 (37). 14 (36). Those were my # of putts (and scores) from a couple days of golf over the 4th! And that last 14 was part of a 36 and one of my best rounds to date. To be fair I should note that I had gotten a lesson, before the last 9 holes, focusing on my long irons and driving the ball (my weakest areas). While I didn't get any video like I was hoping I want to re-grade the ER2 in this post. Before I do that, some basic observations: I actually replaced the stock grip with a super stroke 3.0 XL that just fit my hands better and more importantly quieted them. It took me a bit to adjust with how quickly the ball gets rolling, especially on downhill putts. I really had to focus on just letting the putter do its job and not trying to help the ball I didn't notice any better dispersion in putts 0-10 feet, but on the long-range putts I can definitely tell that the grooves help on slight mis-hits. The ER2 is absolutely money from 10 feet and in, which is partially a confidence thing but every time I got within 10 feet I felt like I was going to hole it. With that being said I really struggled on downhill puts and control the distance (not the line). They fixed the ball marker magnet (a user had previously mentioned to watch out for that!). Also, that ball marker is bad a**! Overall, the ER2 will be staying in the bag for the remainder of the season. I definitely need to trust it a little more, but that's my side of things not the putter. My re-grade is below!! WHAT I WOULD SCORE IT V2.0 (through about 400+ putts): Performance: 23/25 (Downhill Speed Control) Looks: 23/25 (Still an Incredible looking putter!) Feel: 24/25 Build Quality: 22/25 (SuperStroke grips should be an option when custom building this) OVERALL: 92/100 David Challoner Driver: Callaway EPIC, 8.5 Degree, Aldila Rogue 75 Max, X-Flex Woods: Callaway Steelhead XR 4+, 16*, Diamana Whiteboard X-Flex Iron Specs: Srixon U65 2i, Srixon 765 3i-6i, Srixon 965 7i-PW, Project X 6.5 Wedges: Mizuno Wedges, 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5 Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Dexterity: Right-Handed Location: Champaign, IL HCP: 6.9 "Slow, Smooth, and Finish" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Check out stage 2 of my review in the thread I linked. I posted slow motion video of the Evnroll vs my Scotty. Fitting (correct loft) play a big role in it, but the grooves definitely play a part too Definitely watch this...TBT!! it was a very well done and very cool video!! G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 dont know if they fixed it, but keep an eye out on the ball marker, it like to jump off the putter cover. Great Review BTW..... Mine didn't even make it through the first hole before I lost it...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Mine didn't even make it through the first hole before I lost it...lol. I ordered two more and super glued one to the cover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 hallon, you sound like me in that you're generally a good putter. I've only had one putter fitting but didn't gain anything from it other than now owning an overly expensive putter. I found my putting didn't improve or get worse. I'm still a good putter.I'd say your experience is unique or you had lucked yourself into a putter that fit prior to the fitting. Nearly everyone else that I know has benefitted from a putter fitting even as a good putter to start. Putter is far and away the most important club to be fit for because putting is so individually unique. It's very hard to be a good golfer if you consistently miss hit your full shots but if you can find a way to miss hit putter the same way consistently you can still be good at it. Good luck with the ER 2. I love my ER5, it supplanted a putter that had been in my bag for 10 years and that I was modified after a fitting during the middle of that run. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I'd say your experience is unique or you had lucked yourself into a putter that fit prior to the fitting. Nearly everyone else that I know has benefitted from a putter fitting even as a good putter to start. Putter is far and away the most important club to be fit for because putting is so individually unique. It's very hard to be a good golfer if you consistently miss hit your full shots but if you can find a way to miss hit putter the same way consistently you can still be good at it. Good luck with the ER 2. I love my ER5, it supplanted a putter that had been in my bag for 10 years and that I was modified after a fitting during the middle of that run. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rev I don't have the ER2. But I like them. I have an Edel and it's decent also. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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