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Sometimes I catch myself in day dreams about ideal carry distances, so I'm curious to see what other people's thoughts are. When I say ideal, I think about it context of what is realistic/what is possible given all aspects of your game from your ability to strength, etc. Apologies if there has been a thread like this recently, but I did a search and couldn't find anything.

 

You can be as specific or general as you would like, but definitely try to give some context around what type of golfer you are. I am going to leave woods out of it and the higher lofted wedges since not everyone uses them for full swings.

 

I am a 28 year old high handicapper (coming down) in pretty good shape, who definitely could get some more distance with club upgrades (upgrade Regular shafts to stiff/xstiff) and lessons to get better form/efficiency, but my driver swing speed is just north of 110.

 

At a high level, I would like to have 1 iron I can hit from 200 yds and I would like my high lofted irons to be pretty close to 10 yard gaps.

 

Current Est Carry Distances Ideal Carry Distances

19.5H - 210 230

4 - 200 215

5- 185 200

6- 170-175 185

7- 165 175

8- 155 165

9- 140-145ish 155

PW- 135 145

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I wouldn't focus on carry distances so much. To be honest you really don't need more distance out of your irons if you are hitting the driver long off the tee. I'm presuming you hit the ball 265-275 carry with a 110 mph swing speed? I would as a higher handicap focus more of your time dialing in your 150yd and in gaps. This is probably where where most of your time will be spent any how. You should determine what your 85% swing is on the ball and those will be the yardages you will want to play off of. Hitting the ball far with irons is great to say but you should find what yardage gives you the most consistent shot dispersion from that 150yd in mark. If you are already there then you have the ideal distances. I can hit a PW 155yds if I step on it, but I am way more accurate when I play it to 135yds which keeps me way more steady in pressure situations. So ideal really is a relative term to the individual golfer. Find your most reliable swing and play off that. There are tour players who play x driver shafts yet only play a S400 iron shaft because irons you don't really need to be swinging full board at. If you are that is probably the reason for many errant shots. I see so many times guys say they can hit a PW 150 but that's with there ideal strike at more than 85% power and time after time they come up short of the green because they are trying to play this ideal yardage they think they should be hitting the ball.

 

 

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Yeah the driver is typically around there with my old driver. When I was getting fit, I was hitting it about 270 carry with a 1.35 1.4 smash factor, so need to get a better driver swing.

 

My current irons distances are about 80-90%. For example, I went full tilt and hit my 8 iron the other day at a flag that was about 163 and got pin high. It's more consistency is what I struggle with from a left right and hitting it fat standpoint. So you may be right that I am at my ideal distances already, just have to learn how to hit different distances with every club.

 

 

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Driver :     :cobra-small: F7 - Project X Hzrdus Yellow 6.5 75g

3w:           :cobra-small:  F7 Fairway - Project X Hzrdus Yellow 6.5 75g

Hybrid:     :cobra-small: F6 Hybrid - KBS Tour Hybrid Prototype 95g X-Stiff

Irons:       :mizuno-small: JPX 900 Forged (4,5) JPX 900 Tour (6-P) KBS C-Taper 130 (Softstepped)

Wedes:         :titelist-small: SM7 52* F Grind, 56* M Gind (KBS C-Taper 125), 60* S Grind

Putter:   :cameron-small: Futura X7M

 

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I agree with what others have said, work on getting consistent with your game first then start trying to get more out of your clubs. Don't worry about the ball going further, worry about playing how far you make the ball go currently and game around that. Your current distances are great and could carry you to a much lower handicap if you get a consistent game.

 

 

 

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Speaking of carry distance. Why in the heck is my 60° Wedge carrying farther than my 56°? And only 7-8 yards less than my 52°, busted out the trusty TM wedges again.... what gives?

 

 

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Two words... dynamic loft.

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Driver: Taylormade M2 (2016) 10.5° | Fujikura Pro Stiff 60g

Fairway: Taylormade Aeroburner 2.0 TP 16.5° | Diamana Whiteboard Stiff 80g

Hybrid: Titleist 915h 21° | Diamana Blueboard Stiff 80g

Driving Iron: Titleist 712U 3 Iron | Kuro Kage Stiff 70g

Irons: Titleist AP2 714 4-PW | KBS Tour 90 Stiff Shafts

Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM5 50°/54°/58°

Putter: Scotty Cameron 2016 Newport 2 | SuperStroke Mid Slim 2.0 

Ball: Taylormade TP5x

 

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Yeah the driver is typically around there with my old driver. When I was getting fit, I was hitting it about 270 carry with a 1.35 1.4 smash factor, so need to get a better driver swing.

 

My current irons distances are about 80-90%. For example, I went full tilt and hit my 8 iron the other day at a flag that was about 163 and got pin high. It's more consistency is what I struggle with from a left right and hitting it fat standpoint. So you may be right that I am at my ideal distances already, just have to learn how to hit different distances with every club.

 

 

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Based on what you've said above, I would keep those yardages as they are respectable yardages and work on fine tuning your game in areas of knock downs. When out practicing on the course there are times where I will be smack dab on my PW distance but will take out the 8i and learn to hit that knock down shot on the course. I've learned that doing that has come in handy plenty of times and most guys don't understand why I'm a good wind player and I owe the benefit of that to those types of practicing rituals. I find that my rounds are much more enjoyable doing things like that any how by trying to be creative. Best of luck to ya in working on your game.

 

 

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Great points I couldn't agree more with about not needing to increase your yardage. That's almost to tour length. Accuracy is what will help you score better. I've spent lots of time the last month and a half working on my alignment and it has helped so so so much. And learn the knockdown shot can save your butt big time in the wind

 

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If I get the premise of your OP, it sounds like you simply want to be able to pull iron on a 200yd shot,

i.e., it sucks pulling a hybrid from 204 on a par three.

 

I'm 35 and I definitively relate to some of what you said. Fwiw, I'll bet you're coming out of your posture, adding dynamic loft relative from your 8i, static 8= 38 DL= 35, 5i static =27, DL= 28.

 

Just my $0.02.

 

I'll add in something that's not necessarily popular but- if you desire smaller gaps in your set, consider testing with 0.25" increments and 1degree of additional loft in your short irons, but keep in mind this will inevitably lead to the necessity of being able to manage a 20yd gap in full swing speed between your 5-6 or 6-7.

 

Also, go game improvement on your 4 and 5i. I carry a 20* jpx 900 hm 4i, and its 11yds longer on all strikes than my 21* 3i.

 

 

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I wouldn't focus on carry distances so much. To be honest you really don't need more distance out of your irons if you are hitting the driver long off the tee. I'm presuming you hit the ball 265-275 carry with a 110 mph swing speed? I would as a higher handicap focus more of your time dialing in your 150yd and in gaps. This is probably where where most of your time will be spent any how. You should determine what your 85% swing is on the ball and those will be the yardages you will want to play off of. Hitting the ball far with irons is great to say but you should find what yardage gives you the most consistent shot dispersion from that 150yd in mark. If you are already there then you have the ideal distances. I can hit a PW 155yds if I step on it, but I am way more accurate when I play it to 135yds which keeps me way more steady in pressure situations. So ideal really is a relative term to the individual golfer. Find your most reliable swing and play off that. There are tour players who play x driver shafts yet only play a S400 iron shaft because irons you don't really need to be swinging full board at. If you are that is probably the reason for many errant shots. I see so many times guys say they can hit a PW 150 but that's with there ideal strike at more than 85% power and time after time they come up short of the green because they are trying to play this ideal yardage they think they should be hitting the ball.

 

 

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This is my most recent epiphany. I am a high handicapper as well and my bad shots and inconsistency come from trying too hard. I recently quit trying to kill it, and found that I was suddenly much more consistent and only lost 5 ish yards of carry. It honestly feels more like letting the swing happen than making it happen. I played my first round today with this more relaxed swing and was amazed at how much more consistent I was. I didn't have a single fat shot, although I did top 2 or 3 off the tee with the 3 and 5 wood, all my irons shots got up in the air. Even had a couple of gentle fades! Now I just have to work on being less directionally challenged.

 

just starting to build my set

irons: Adams pro A12 3-pw KBS tour

woods: zenith orbiter 3 and 5

driver: Bombtech Grenade 9* Stiff

wedges: tour edge 56*

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This is my most recent epiphany. I am a high handicapper as well and my bad shots and inconsistency come from trying too hard. I recently quit trying to kill it, and found that I was suddenly much more consistent and only lost 5 ish yards of carry. It honestly feels more like letting the swing happen than making it happen. I played my first round today with this more relaxed swing and was amazed at how much more consistent I was. I didn't have a single fat shot, although I did top 2 or 3 off the tee with the 3 and 5 wood, all my irons shots got up in the air. Even had a couple of gentle fades! Now I just have to work on being less directionally challenged.

 

just starting to build my set

irons: Adams pro A12 3-pw KBS tour

woods: zenith orbiter 3 and 5

driver: Bombtech Grenade 9* Stiff

wedges: tour edge 56*

 

Nice! Stick with that swing it will pay you dividends and your back will thank you as well!

 

 

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