Joey Bogey 10 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 So I saw this posted on barstool (see below) and it started a debate in the office. I'm intrigued to hear what everyone in MyGolfSpy thinks. I think an average 4-man scramble team would at least compete. What do you guys think? How Would An Average 4-Man Scramble Team Do In A PGA Tour Event? https://bars.tl/Vu6u/R4SkZDWG4E Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STUDque 11,859 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 It would be tough to win a tournament on their courses due to the length and speed but I totally believe they could make cuts and contend for top 10 at some tracks. On a regular course we shot 63 a few weeks back without mulligans or funny business. Oh what a glorious side show that would be! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to post Share on other sites
Canucklehead 1,633 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 What do you mean by compete? Make a cut? Top 10, 20, 30? Sent from my E6853 using MyGolfSpy mobile app 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBT 2,212 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 You could probably make the cut in a few events, it really depends on whether or not you have a bomber or 2 on the team. It doesn't matter if you have 4 whacks at an approach if your consistently hitting from over 200 yards for your 2nd shots. With par 4's on tour being close and sometimes over 500 yards you will need somebody that can move the ball out there a pretty good distance and somebody else that's a great putter. 5 Quote King F7+ UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 6F4 Shaft King F7 3W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 5W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 4 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft King F7 5 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft King F7 6-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts King PuR Wedges 50*,54*,58* UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts Metal X Milled #7 with SuperStroke 3.0 grip Arccos Generation 1 Sensors on all clubs Snell MTB Twitter: @timldotson Instagram: timldotson Facebook: TimDotson Link to post Share on other sites
hckymeyer 6,238 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Totally agree with TBT. If your 9 handy group consists of guys that hit the ball 240 max then no, I still don't think you can compete. Now if you've got 2 guys that can hit consistently 300yds and a couple guys with great short games then maybe you play the weekend. 6 Quote Driver: Epic SZ w/ VA Composites Raijin 65 04 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i-UW G700 w/ X100 soft stepped once Wedges: 54 & 58 CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to post Share on other sites
STUDque 11,859 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 It'll really depend on the course too. There's that old Jack Nicklaus anecdote: You could let an amateur drop at the 150 marker at Augusta for every hole and they still wouldn't break 100 Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 7 Quote In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to post Share on other sites
TBT 2,212 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 It'll really depend on the course too. There's that old Jack Nicklaus anecdote: You could let an amateur drop at the 150 marker at Augusta for every hole and they still wouldn't break 100 Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I might not break 100, but damn that would be fun! 6 Quote King F7+ UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 6F4 Shaft King F7 3W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 5W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 4 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft King F7 5 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft King F7 6-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts King PuR Wedges 50*,54*,58* UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts Metal X Milled #7 with SuperStroke 3.0 grip Arccos Generation 1 Sensors on all clubs Snell MTB Twitter: @timldotson Instagram: timldotson Facebook: TimDotson Link to post Share on other sites
Eseay32 666 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 It'll really depend on the course too. There's that old Jack Nicklaus anecdote: You could let an amateur drop at the 150 marker at Augusta for every hole and they still wouldn't break 100 Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy This same debate happened a year or two ago. Could 16 guys with with 10-15 handicaps win the Masters. I say it's a resounding NO but people have argued it wouldn't be hard. Once you remind them that there would a real score keeping, no strings, throws, or red tees, they come back to reality. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote <p>Knoxville, TN 4 Hdcp Ping G30 9deg loft Ping G25 3 wood Nike Vapor rescue Ping I irons +1 upright Vokey Sm5 52, 56, 60 TM spider with 1.0 super stroke</p> Link to post Share on other sites
scooducks 299 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 You could probably make the cut in a few events, it really depends on whether or not you have a bomber or 2 on the team. It doesn't matter if you have 4 whacks at an approach if your consistently hitting from over 200 yards for your 2nd shots. With par 4's on tour being close and sometimes over 500 yards you will need somebody that can move the ball out there a pretty good distance and somebody else that's a great putter. I would go so far to say that at least two would need to be deep off the tee. Too much pressure on one guy. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote WITB: Driver: Taylormade M2 (2016) 10.5° | Fujikura Pro Stiff 60g Fairway: Taylormade Aeroburner 2.0 TP 16.5° | Diamana Whiteboard Stiff 80g Hybrid: Titleist 915h 21° | Diamana Blueboard Stiff 80g Driving Iron: Titleist 712U 3 Iron | Kuro Kage Stiff 70g Irons: Titleist AP2 714 4-PW | KBS Tour 90 Stiff Shafts Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM5 50°/54°/58° Putter: Scotty Cameron 2016 Newport 2 | SuperStroke Mid Slim 2.0 Ball: Taylormade TP5x Link to post Share on other sites
geez2323 190 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Interesting topic. I would say possibly compete if you had a consistent long and straight driver, 2 guys that were good ball strikers and iron players and a short game and putting wizard. I think the best PGA players would still come out on top, they have all the aspects listed above that are more polished and refined than the average golfer. If you have ever been around a pro, it is amazing what they can do with a ball and how consistent they can do it. Would be fun to watch! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STUDque 11,859 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 May I add to this question? How many scoring records do you think a scramble full of pros could break? Could we see a 50? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to post Share on other sites
Eseay32 666 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 May I add to this question? How many scoring records do you think a scramble full of pros could break? Could we see a 50? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy So take 4 pros and let them play a scramble? They would birdie every hole and eagle 3 of 4 par fives (assuming there's 4 and not 6) so I would say a 50 is possible. The real question is could they go lower. When a pro wants to hole out, they usually scare it pretty good. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote <p>Knoxville, TN 4 Hdcp Ping G30 9deg loft Ping G25 3 wood Nike Vapor rescue Ping I irons +1 upright Vokey Sm5 52, 56, 60 TM spider with 1.0 super stroke</p> Link to post Share on other sites
STUDque 11,859 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 So take 4 pros and let them play a scramble? They would birdie every hole and eagle 3 of 4 par fives (assuming there's 4 and not 6) so I would say a 50 is possible. The real question is could they go lower. When a pro wants to hole out, they usually scare it pretty good. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rory, Spieth, DJ, and Phil would shoot 48 Sent by carrier pigeon using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to post Share on other sites
drewneddy 188 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Wow great question. After much thought, I believe a 4 man team of 9hcps would be top 5 at a major. My thoughts are they wouldn't give hardly any shots back. Think you got 4 balls into every green, 4 pitches, 4 putts. And they would birdie 75% of the par 5s. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eseay32 666 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Wow great question. After much thought, I believe a 4 man team of 9hcps would be top 5 at a major. My thoughts are they wouldn't give hardly any shots back. Think you got 4 balls into every green, 4 pitches, 4 putts. And they would birdie 75% of the par 5s. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy They would make a ton of pars but bogeys are absolutely possible with 4-9cappers on a major championship course playing over 7000 yds. I think they could shoot a few 68s though which would be enough Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote <p>Knoxville, TN 4 Hdcp Ping G30 9deg loft Ping G25 3 wood Nike Vapor rescue Ping I irons +1 upright Vokey Sm5 52, 56, 60 TM spider with 1.0 super stroke</p> Link to post Share on other sites
evershady 877 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I think too much credit is being given to the 9 handicappers. I dont think they would make the cut. If you have 2 guys that can bomb consistently hit 300 they have no short game otherwise they wouldnt be a 9. The courses are tough the pressure is intense even with 4 shots i dont see them getting it done. One round maybe but one bad hole will take them out of the tournament. Most shots needed to compete in a major are not in a 9 handicaps bag especially with the consistency needed. That means each guy would have to average the shots of over 4 holes of perfect major championship golf. Sent from my SM-G930V using MyGolfSpy mobile app 3 Quote Chippewa Falls Wisconsin 10.3 Index Right Handed What's in the bag: Driver: FG Tour F5 8* Fujikura Speeder 757 Evolution Tour Spec X-flex, Anser 8*, Black Grafalloy Bi-Matrix X-Flex; King LTD Pro Orange Grafalloy Bi-Matrix X-Flex FW Wood: FG Tour F5 15* Fujikura Speeder 757 Evolution Tour Spec X-Flex Anse14*, Fujikura Speeder 757 US Open Edition , X-Stiff Irons: FG Tour V4 2 utility Iron, 3-PW, +0.25, 2* Upright, True Temper Dynamic Gold X-100 Wedges: FG Tour PMP Gun Blue 52* bent to 51*, 56* True Temper Dynamic Gold X-100 Shafts E2 35", 8802 35.5", Scottsdale, Wolverine C 35" Anser Milled, Anser 2 34" Link to post Share on other sites
Reesedw 2,463 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I say no. I think there are too many shots that would be tough for a amateur to make period let alone a 9+ handicapper... Even with 4 shots I do not think they could make the cut. Now if they played a Shorter course closer to 7000- 7200 Maybe.. other wise the length is too much... they would be forcing long shots into a pool table like green.. 1 Quote Dave- Follow me on twitter @GolfCrazyWA and on Instagram @GolfcrazyWA WITB: Cobra Ultralite Cart Bag Cobra F8+ Driver Hzrdus Red 65g shaft Cobra F8+ 3wd Hzrdus Red 65g shaft Cobra 3 hybrid Rogue Pro 75g Shaft Cobra 4 hybrid Rogue Pro 75g Shaft Cobra F8 irons 5-GW KBS tour 90 stiff shafts Cobra King Black Wedges 54* and 58* versatile grind Snake eyes Viper Putter. Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to post Share on other sites
revkev 22,150 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 How did this get here? Sorry that I missed it. Not a chance - there is not a chance that four 9's playing a scramble could compete in a major. In fact there will be holes where they can't reach the fairway on many courses used for a major. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 3 Quote Ping G410 - set at 12 degrees, fade setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex Ping G410 5-9 wood G30 6-PW - Aerotech FT 500 shafts SCOR 48,52,56,60 EVNRoll ER 5 Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them Link to post Share on other sites
gaussman1 1,512 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 How did this get here? Sorry that I missed it. Not a chance - there is not a chance that four 9's playing a scramble could compete in a major. In fact there will be holes where they can't reach the fairway on many courses used for a major. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I agree with RevKev. I think they would be unlikely to break 80. 7500 yards with deep rough and major championship greens I think they would struggle to make par on virtually any par 3 or 4. 1 Quote Rogue SZ 10.5 *NEW* Fujikura Pro Green 65 X Rogue 15 degree Evnflow Blue 6.5 Back in the Bag Z765 4-G Nippon Modus 120 Stiff 54 and 60 Amazing Grace Ass Kicker Link to post Share on other sites
GolfSpy MPR 9,561 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Not a chance - there is not a chance that four 9's playing a scramble could compete in a major. In fact there will be holes where they can't reach the fairway on many courses used for a major. This was one of my main takeaways from being at the US Open at Erin Hills. From the championship tees, I would not be able to play 18 holes even if I started with two dozen balls, simply because I wouldn't be able to get to several of the fairways, and missing short puts the ball in the two-foot-tall native fescue, where (without the advantages of tournament play) it's unlikely to be found. 2 Quote Epic Flash Sub Zero, 9°, Aldila Rogue White 70 X M4 3HL 16.5°, Atmos Red 60 F6 5-6W, 19.5°, Fujikura Motore 6.3 CBX 20°, Project X HZRDUS 85 5.5 699 Pro, Modus3 105, 5–PW Forged Black 50°, 54°, and 58° Stroke Lab EXO Seven Mini, 34" Z-Star XV Link to post Share on other sites
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