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#1 CaffeineAndPinSeeking

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 08:38 PM

Questions about Vice Balls are at the bottom. Below is my story on issues I have had with the Vice Pro Plus.

I purchased my first box of Vice Pro Plus (Neon Red) in June. My first impression of the ball was excellent. I really thought it could hold up to a ProVX and it actually felt better for my wedge control than a ProVX. Then, I picked up my ball on a par 3 after hitting a 7 iron and found damage on the cover. Didn't hit a rock or cart path and I checked to make sure my club face was clean. I noticed other balls from the batch I played got scuffed very easily. I wanted to keep playing them, because it was an excellent ball at an amazing price. I thought the red cover may have caused it to be more susceptible to damage so I got the next box in white. On the 4th hole of the last 18 I played, I hit a 5 iron of the fairway and found my ball with very similar damage to the red one I had hit with a 7 iron off a tee about 1 month earlier. I did pick at the coating on the white one to try and see underneath to the core, but the damage didn't go that deep. I also started questioning whether these balls lost some distance after 4 or 5 holes (2-3 drives and 2-3 iron shots).

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Has anyone else noticed distance issues with Vice balls after hitting a few shots with one ball?

Has anyone else had issues with the cover on the ball getting damaged easily?

Should I give Vice a 3rd chance or go back to TP5X or ProVX
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Posted 28 July 2017 - 10:02 PM

It's interesting that you bring this issue up. I had the same thing happen to me last weekend. My ball looked similar to yours after I picked it up on the green.

I really like the feel of the Vice balls but don't like the cover issues.


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Posted 28 July 2017 - 10:07 PM

Very interesting to me because the Vice testers (from what I remember) are raving about the durability of the ball. Would love to hear from them on this matter.


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Posted 28 July 2017 - 10:24 PM

Back when I tested the Vice Pro Soft, I never had any issues as far as the cover and how durable it was. They always held up fine for me.

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 10:35 PM

I played the same Pro+ for 9 holes yesterday and it was fine. I didn't hit more than 1 full wedge though, so maybe they would get chewed up more on full wedges, I'm mostly taking 3/4 at most.

 

Off of a tree, I've had them scuff though for sure. :D Never tried the neon ones, but I'm interested in trying them.


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Posted 29 July 2017 - 02:42 AM

I played the same Pro+ for 9 holes yesterday and it was fine. I didn't hit more than 1 full wedge though, so maybe they would get chewed up more on full wedges, I'm mostly taking 3/4 at most.

Off of a tree, I've had them scuff though for sure. :D Never tried the neon ones, but I'm interested in trying them.


I really liked the neon red, it was easy to track the ball flight and for some reason felt more comfortable putting.


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Posted 29 July 2017 - 02:46 AM

Very interesting to me because the Vice testers (from what I remember) are raving about the durability of the ball. Would love to hear from them on this matter.


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I agree, I remember watching some reviews talk about the durability which made it even more frustrating. I was seriously looking at all possibilities of it hitting a rock, or anything on the green to cause it. I also double checked my club faces and couldn't find any reason for the damage on them.


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Posted 29 July 2017 - 03:47 AM

I've been playing them for a year now and I've had this happen quite a few times. It happens randomly out of no where and only one out of the sleeve does it. My puppy grabs balls occasionally when I chip in my yard and she beats them up more than titelist. Still play them regularly and used 1 ball for 29 holes 2 weeks ago. Used one for 8 holes today no issue.

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 05:09 AM

Very interesting to me because the Vice testers (from what I remember) are raving about the durability of the ball. Would love to hear from them on this matter.


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I'm one of the testers for the upcoming Vice Pro ball test. I've found that the whilst the Vice Pro ball does tend to fade a little, it doesn't really any further than that - this was with a ball I've been using for the last 2 rounds. It's certainly faring better than the current model Titleist Pro V1. 


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Posted 29 July 2017 - 12:44 PM

I've been playing them for a year now and I've had this happen quite a few times. It happens randomly out of no where and only one out of the sleeve does it. My puppy grabs balls occasionally when I chip in my yard and she beats them up more than titelist. Still play them regularly and used 1 ball for 29 holes 2 weeks ago. Used one for 8 holes today no issue.

Thank you, I was hoping the issue was isolated to just a few random balls. Did you notice a difference in the neon vs white?

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 12:47 PM

I'm one of the testers for the upcoming Vice Pro ball test. I've found that the whilst the Vice Pro ball does tend to fade a little, it doesn't really any further than that - this was with a ball I've been using for the last 2 rounds. It's certainly faring better than the current model Titleist Pro V1.


Just for clarification, are you saying the "fade a little" means it moves left to right of target (for right handed golfers) or it has a loss of distance?


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Posted 29 July 2017 - 01:05 PM

Loss of distance would be a much bigger worry than the cover scuffing. Covers can scuff on any well-struck ball really.



Are you noticing the loss of distance with totally clean balls too?


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Posted 29 July 2017 - 05:33 PM

Loss of distance would be a much bigger worry than the cover scuffing. Covers can scuff on any well-struck ball really.



Are you noticing the loss of distance with totally clean balls too?


Yes, it seemed like it anyway. I honestly wasn't doing that great of a job with tracking my shots but on a course I play regularly I noticed I was 10-15 yards shy of where I typically am. I think I am going to give them another try and track them closely.


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Posted 29 July 2017 - 07:13 PM

Just for clarification, are you saying the "fade a little" means it moves left to right of target (for right handed golfers) or it has a loss of distance?


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I think he was referring to the color fading

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 09:36 PM

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I never used the neon only white so I cannot answer that. I have not noticed a loss in distance when using them.

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