CaffeineAndPinSeeking Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Questions about Vice Balls are at the bottom. Below is my story on issues I have had with the Vice Pro Plus. I purchased my first box of Vice Pro Plus (Neon Red) in June. My first impression of the ball was excellent. I really thought it could hold up to a ProVX and it actually felt better for my wedge control than a ProVX. Then, I picked up my ball on a par 3 after hitting a 7 iron and found damage on the cover. Didn't hit a rock or cart path and I checked to make sure my club face was clean. I noticed other balls from the batch I played got scuffed very easily. I wanted to keep playing them, because it was an excellent ball at an amazing price. I thought the red cover may have caused it to be more susceptible to damage so I got the next box in white. On the 4th hole of the last 18 I played, I hit a 5 iron of the fairway and found my ball with very similar damage to the red one I had hit with a 7 iron off a tee about 1 month earlier. I did pick at the coating on the white one to try and see underneath to the core, but the damage didn't go that deep. I also started questioning whether these balls lost some distance after 4 or 5 holes (2-3 drives and 2-3 iron shots). Questions Has anyone else noticed distance issues with Vice balls after hitting a few shots with one ball? Has anyone else had issues with the cover on the ball getting damaged easily? Should I give Vice a 3rd chance or go back to TP5X or ProVX Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 It's interesting that you bring this issue up. I had the same thing happen to me last weekend. My ball looked similar to yours after I picked it up on the green. I really like the feel of the Vice balls but don't like the cover issues. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDque Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Very interesting to me because the Vice testers (from what I remember) are raving about the durability of the ball. Would love to hear from them on this matter. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSauer Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Back when I tested the Vice Pro Soft, I never had any issues as far as the cover and how durable it was. They always held up fine for me. Quote G400 Max G410 3W G410 3 & 4 Crossover i200 5-PW Vokey SM7 | 52-56-60 Taylormade Spider X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I played the same Pro+ for 9 holes yesterday and it was fine. I didn't hit more than 1 full wedge though, so maybe they would get chewed up more on full wedges, I'm mostly taking 3/4 at most. Off of a tree, I've had them scuff though for sure. Never tried the neon ones, but I'm interested in trying them. Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 w/ BGT Stability Tour Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeineAndPinSeeking Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 I played the same Pro+ for 9 holes yesterday and it was fine. I didn't hit more than 1 full wedge though, so maybe they would get chewed up more on full wedges, I'm mostly taking 3/4 at most. Off of a tree, I've had them scuff though for sure. Never tried the neon ones, but I'm interested in trying them. I really liked the neon red, it was easy to track the ball flight and for some reason felt more comfortable putting. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeineAndPinSeeking Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 Very interesting to me because the Vice testers (from what I remember) are raving about the durability of the ball. Would love to hear from them on this matter. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I agree, I remember watching some reviews talk about the durability which made it even more frustrating. I was seriously looking at all possibilities of it hitting a rock, or anything on the green to cause it. I also double checked my club faces and couldn't find any reason for the damage on them. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I've been playing them for a year now and I've had this happen quite a few times. It happens randomly out of no where and only one out of the sleeve does it. My puppy grabs balls occasionally when I chip in my yard and she beats them up more than titelist. Still play them regularly and used 1 ball for 29 holes 2 weeks ago. Used one for 8 holes today no issue. Sent from my LG-H820 using MyGolfSpy mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdumble21 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Very interesting to me because the Vice testers (from what I remember) are raving about the durability of the ball. Would love to hear from them on this matter. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I'm one of the testers for the upcoming Vice Pro ball test. I've found that the whilst the Vice Pro ball does tend to fade a little, it doesn't really any further than that - this was with a ball I've been using for the last 2 rounds. It's certainly faring better than the current model Titleist Pro V1. Quote Driver: Cobra F9 Speedback (9.0) with Fujikura Atmos 7X (Avalanche White) 3 Wood: Callaway Epic Sub-Zero (15 degrees) in Rogue Max 75g stiff shaft Hybrid: Callaway Apex 20 degree with Kurokage 80g Stiff Shaft Irons: Wilson Staff CB 4-PW in KBS 120 Stiff shafts Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 - 50 Callaway MD4 - 56 & 60 degrees Putter: Taylormade TP Collection Soto Golf Ball: Titliest Pro V1 and Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeineAndPinSeeking Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 I've been playing them for a year now and I've had this happen quite a few times. It happens randomly out of no where and only one out of the sleeve does it. My puppy grabs balls occasionally when I chip in my yard and she beats them up more than titelist. Still play them regularly and used 1 ball for 29 holes 2 weeks ago. Used one for 8 holes today no issue. Thank you, I was hoping the issue was isolated to just a few random balls. Did you notice a difference in the neon vs white? Sent from my LG-H820 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeineAndPinSeeking Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 I'm one of the testers for the upcoming Vice Pro ball test. I've found that the whilst the Vice Pro ball does tend to fade a little, it doesn't really any further than that - this was with a ball I've been using for the last 2 rounds. It's certainly faring better than the current model Titleist Pro V1. Just for clarification, are you saying the "fade a little" means it moves left to right of target (for right handed golfers) or it has a loss of distance? Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDque Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Loss of distance would be a much bigger worry than the cover scuffing. Covers can scuff on any well-struck ball really. Are you noticing the loss of distance with totally clean balls too? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeineAndPinSeeking Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 Loss of distance would be a much bigger worry than the cover scuffing. Covers can scuff on any well-struck ball really. Are you noticing the loss of distance with totally clean balls too? Yes, it seemed like it anyway. I honestly wasn't doing that great of a job with tracking my shots but on a course I play regularly I noticed I was 10-15 yards shy of where I typically am. I think I am going to give them another try and track them closely. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Just for clarification, are you saying the "fade a little" means it moves left to right of target (for right handed golfers) or it has a loss of distance? Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy I think he was referring to the color fading Sent from my Pixel XL using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 w/ BGT Stability Tour Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpyI never used the neon only white so I cannot answer that. I have not noticed a loss in distance when using them. Sent from my LG-H820 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBT Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Hmm, this is very interesting I've played Vice balls before and never saw this kind of issues. Quote XR Driver Matrix Ozik 8m3 Black Tie Shaft King F7 3W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 5W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 4 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft PXG 0211 DC 5-PW Mitsubishi MMT 80 Shafts RTX ZIPCORE 50*,54*,58* UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts Metal X Milled #7 with SuperStroke 2.0 grip MTB Twitter: @timldotson Instagram: timldotson Facebook: TimDotson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Az_T Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I really wanted to like Vice products. I found the Pro+ balls scuff up badly after 9 holes (no cart paths, trees, just general use) and don't perform as well as other brands for me. Longevity wise, the TP5, Bridgestone B330s, and Chrome Softs are better. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peanut05 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I haven't yet had a chance to test out the Vice balls, but if they are scuffing that easily, even if it's only a few per box, that's a definite no-go for me. Balls are way too expensive to be replacing them that often, especially when there is no reason for it. Quote In my bag: Callaway Epic Subzero with Aldila Rogue Max 75 Stiff shaft Callaway Rogue Subzero with Project X Evenflow 6.0 75g stiff shaft Callaway Rogue 3 Hybrid with Aldila Synergy 60 HYB stiff shaft Callaway Apex irons (4-PW) with True Temper XP 95 stiff shafts Callaway MD3 wedges (50/54/58) SeeMore Original FGP Bridgestone Tour B RX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunGT500 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I bought 5 dozen of the neon pro plus and figured I'd give them a try. The balls weren't as red as I hoped, I guess I am more in love with Volviks flat red and was hopping it would be close. I am about halfway through and think it's more worth it to try and catch bogo sales on your preferred ball. There are several spots on the Vice balls where I see gray spots, like gaps in the Neon Red finish. Also it seems maybe those increase as I continue to bash them. Only a few scuffs but nothing major. As far as distance, I just switched to the Srixon z765 and my 7 tee shots with it and the Vice yesterday averaged 326, but I find with my wedges and irons it falls just a few yards short of where my B330 would be. $25 a box isn't bad and I'm sure the product will only improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I've only played a Vice (probably their top ball. Given to me by Texas2Cap) one round. The ball felt good off all clubs and had same distance I get with other balls I use. But, I did notice the ball looked old after one round. Wasn't nearly as white as other balls under same situation. Other than that not a bad ball. Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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