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I never understood why players blame the caddie for bad play. It literally has nothing to do with the caddie. The caddy should only have one job get you a yardage and rake bunkers. If you cant decide on what club to hit or see what the wind is doing then thats your fault. I think players are to dependent on their caddies theses days. When I have my buddies caddie all they do is use the laser for a yardage, rake bunkers and keep me company

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I never understood why players blame the caddie for bad play. It literally has nothing to do with the caddie. The caddy should only have one job get you a yardage and rake bunkers. If you cant decide on what club to hit or see what the wind is doing then thats your fault. I think players are to dependent on their caddies theses days. When I have my buddies caddie all they do is use the laser for a yardage, rake bunkers and keep me company

Maybe Rors needs some new company? lol 

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I really didn't expect this after the open but there have been rumblings for years that he needed a new one. He misses a lot of greens long and tends to be miss-clubbed a lot for such a good ball striker. 

I'll be interested to see who he ends up with. 

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Didn't he just get hitched??? Maybe he'll be like Patrick Reed and have his bride on the bag ???

 

Whatever they say I think Spieth is to blame from that drop on 13 where Greller was spot on with the distance using the Pythagorean theorem to figure it out.  Bet he looked at that and thought there is no way JP could figure that out... as someone once-famous-and-kinda-infamous-now once said: "JP...(dramatic pause), you're fired!"....My guess is that Rory gets a local 6th grade math teacher.

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Who knows what is going on here. I'm sure there's a good reason (at least in Rory's mind). I am a little surprised at the timing. Rory has two wins at Quail Hollow and the course record. That tells me that JP must have done a good job back then. One would think Rory has a slight advantage going into next week. It just seems like the wrong time to be "breaking in" a new caddie.

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I never understood why players blame the caddie for bad play. It literally has nothing to do with the caddie. The caddy should only have one job get you a yardage and rake bunkers. If you cant decide on what club to hit or see what the wind is doing then thats your fault. I think players are to dependent on their caddies theses days. When I have my buddies caddie all they do is use the laser for a yardage, rake bunkers and keep me company

Several players, especially the younger ones, have suggested that they are part of a team.   Their team typically includes their caddie, their instructor, their mental shrink and a physical trainer.  In other professional sports when the team doesn't perform the head coach or the manager takes the hit.   However, in professional golf, the team leader, the player cannot fire himself.   So when a shake up of the team is perceived to be needed, another member of the team takes the hit.   Most times, its the caddie.

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I never understood why players blame the caddie for bad play. It literally has nothing to do with the caddie. The caddy should only have one job get you a yardage and rake bunkers. If you cant decide on what club to hit or see what the wind is doing then thats your fault. I think players are to dependent on their caddies theses days. When I have my buddies caddie all they do is use the laser for a yardage, rake bunkers and keep me company

 

:blink:  Which decade are you living in? This isn't the 60's anymore! These days, a caddie is essentially an assistant coach who carries your bag and is allowed to wear shorts. Caddie input is incredibly important. I think may people don't realize how much more competitive the game has become, even in the last 20 years. This is one of the things that bugs me about Johnny Miller btw (getting way off topic here). The fact is, as a whole, the field is way better now than it used to be. The worst guy on Tour is capable of winning any tournament, they're all true professionals, they practice, workout, have better coaching, better swing analysis, etc. The have squeezed the margins of performance at every turn and a big part of that is walking around the course with an incredible golf coach who offers guidance and insight on every hole. Johnny, players aren't scoring better because the courses are easier, they score better because they are better, the equipment is better, everyone in the field is better. Now, back to the point, tell me you wouldn't score better if you had Bones walking you through the course? A guy who went out and measured precise yardages to every bunker and mound, a counter map of every green, noting which way the grain of the grass is growing! 

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When I played for a living, my caddie was with me more than my family. Sometimes, like in any relationship, you can get on each other's nerves and just need a break. I think Rory knows he needs a new approach as his putting has been atrocious! Maybe shaking things up will help him. Not sure anyone can say he's blaming JP for anything just needs something to switch up the mojo. Hear a different voice, different thoughts etc.

 

 

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A lot of little nuances, that most aren't aware of, but just a couple from what my friends have told me.

 

Knowing, yardages in an instant and being confident about it.

Knowing the greens inside and out, not so much how they break when you get there, but where are the tiers and how many yards do I need to land it on to get over or stay below the next tier.

 

Then Scott McCarron was speaking to us after the Senior Players Championship that he won a couple weeks ago, with a local caddie from the club on the bag, but had also caddied on the PGA Tour a few times a year or so ago. McCarron said he "tracked the ball like a tour caddie and that was a huge help" Now I wanted to follow up and ask him exactly what he meant by that, but someone else jumped in with a question that changed the subject. I can't imagine he only meant track it where it lands. I mean I know these guys are getting old, but I hope they can still see a ball 250 yards out...LOL

 

No doubt JP has learned some of these things over the 9 years, but early on is what I was speaking of mainly that I had heard.

Have read many accounts where JP gave Rors an awful yardage and calculation . It's hard to know whose at fault sometimes especially with guys like RM and DJ. They both, mostly, play the round by themselves. They aren't like a Webb Simpson that if his caddie didn't tell him it was cool out he would go outside with no pants. They both sort of do their own thing. But many accounts have said that yardage calcs is not JPs strong suit.

 

 

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:blink:  Which decade are you living in? This isn't the 60's anymore! These days, a caddie is essentially an assistant coach who carries your bag and is allowed to wear shorts. Caddie input is incredibly important. I think may people don't realize how much more competitive the game has become, even in the last 20 years. This is one of the things that bugs me about Johnny Miller btw (getting way off topic here). The fact is, as a whole, the field is way better now than it used to be. The worst guy on Tour is capable of winning any tournament, they're all true professionals, they practice, workout, have better coaching, better swing analysis, etc. The have squeezed the margins of performance at every turn and a big part of that is walking around the course with an incredible golf coach who offers guidance and insight on every hole. Johnny, players aren't scoring better because the courses are easier, they score better because they are better, the equipment is better, everyone in the field is better. Now, back to the point, tell me you wouldn't score better if you had Bones walking you through the course? A guy who went out and measured precise yardages to every bunker and mound, a counter map of every green, noting which way the grain of the grass is growing! 

 

Im not sure your understanding what I am saying. Its not the caddy hitting the shot its you. I would never fire the caddy for my bad play. If there is a seperate personal issue then I understand. The caddies all get the same info when they show up to the course and they all walk the course. Most guys on tour save the books from the courses they play every year and add notes to them for the next time they play. The amount of info they get when they are going to a new course is crazy. I have played in Tour events after I played in College and they give you a book with all the bunker carries and hazard carries from the back of the tee box. They give you green maps with the ridges and fall lines although you add the degree and severity of the slope. My point is its never the caddies fault. The team you have in place is a huge deal your coach, caddy and mental coach are not the reason you hit a bad shot.

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Im not sure your understanding what I am saying. Its not the caddy hitting the shot its you. I would never fire the caddy for my bad play. If there is a seperate personal issue then I understand. The caddies all get the same info when they show up to the course and they all walk the course. Most guys on tour save the books from the courses they play every year and add notes to them for the next time they play. The amount of info they get when they are going to a new course is crazy. I have played in Tour events after I played in College and they give you a book with all the bunker carries and hazard carries from the back of the tee box. They give you green maps with the ridges and fall lines although you add the degree and severity of the slope. My point is its never the caddies fault. The team you have in place is a huge deal your coach, caddy and mental coach are not the reason you hit a bad shot.

Surely you aren't suggesting that the player is to blame for his bad shot? 

 

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Surely you aren't suggesting that the player is to blame for his bad shot?

 

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The report now is he's going to have one of his buddies on the bag.....I don't like that move at all!!

 

IMO, that could cost him a shot at the PGA, a good tour caddie can be worth a shot a round or more, if that's the case he could be giving up 4-6 strokes before they even tee off.

 

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Rory explaining why he decided to make a change:

 

http://www.bbc.com/sport/golf/40808039

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Rory explaining why he decided to make a change:

 

http://www.bbc.com/sport/golf/40808039

Sounds like a good reason to me

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