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How do you guys play out of bunkers without hardly any sand in it, making it like hitting it off of hard pan dirt lie.

 

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How do you guys play out of bunkers without hardly any sand in it, making it like hitting it off of hard pan dirt lie.

 

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 I play it like hitting off a hard pan dirt lie;  basically becomes a short pitch shot.

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Pick it baby.

Pick it right.

Pick it baby.

Pick it all night.

 

 

I know, easier said than done. But that's what I try to do in those types of bunkers. Alternatively, don't go in the bunker to begin with

 

 

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I hate hitting out of pits of dirt. For me, the club always bottoms out and I end up blading it way over the green.

 

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My old course had horrible bunkers with little to no actual sand, it was more dirt. I always put the ball back in my stance and tried to play a short pitch shot.

 

 

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Low bounce wedge and chip/pitch out.

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The course I play is like that, very little sand and very compacted under that. After much experimenting, what I came up with is using my 60* slighty open taking only a sliver of sand. Too much bounce on the sand wedge, just keep blading them. Give it a try, hope it works for you.

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My club was like that until this year. Now everyone is complaining the sand is to fluffy . Like they've already said I put it back in stance and pitch it out.

 

 

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The one local course we watched a guy snap a wedge shaft out of the concrete and what we believe was snapping his wrist, he was screaming in pain and holding it. After that we made sand traps a free lateral drop.

 

 

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FYI, I was in Phoenix a couple of years ago and playing a very nice course.  On one par 4 with four bunkers around the green, the course was taking out two of the bunkers.  I was told that each bunker cost $7500 a year to maintain; most likely grounds keepers time for the most part, but the sand was excellent.  I can understand why courses don't maintain their bunkers very well.  $$$$$

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I have SCORS - tight lies are easy.

 

Seriously - first look to see if the lip is low enough to putt or chip. If not take your medicine. Use your wedge with the least amount of bounce. Shut the face and play and explosion shot. Then don't hit it there again. :)

 

 

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FYI, I was in Phoenix a couple of years ago and playing a very nice course.  On one par 4 with four bunkers around the green, the course was taking out two of the bunkers.  I was told that each bunker cost $7500 a year to maintain; most likely grounds keepers time for the most part, but the sand was excellent.  I can understand why courses don't maintain their bunkers very well.  $$$$$

 

Damn... that's expensive... I usually just see the greenkeepers drive in with their machine and make it all fluffy in 5mins (per bunker).

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Wow, thanks 808 and thanks "local pros" ;) for all the playing tips! It's little nuggets like these that really make these forums a great place for info.

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To me, this is an easier shot than an explosion shot. My 58 SCOR work well off tight lies in the fairway; same shot.

 

 

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I must be weird because I'd much rather play a green side bunker than green side rough.

 

 

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I must be weird because I'd much rather play a green side bunker than green side rough.

 

 

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Me too. But there has to be some sand in it. I played a Boyne course recently and there were boulders in the dang sand traps. Gravel more like it.

 

 

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Damn... that's expensive... I usually just see the greenkeepers drive in with their machine and make it all fluffy in 5mins (per bunker).

My course is a muni and they do an OK job with the bunkers.  Sand has to be replaced at least once a year; twice would be better in some of the bunkers.  The wind blows a lot of sand out during the year.  #18 is a par 5 with a 12 yard wide bunker that runs along the right side of the fairway after the dogleg all the way to the front and both sides of the green from 170 out.  That's a lot of sand.

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I feel you, my home course has the same issue. The bunkers play like clay 24/7. However I've come up with a "strategy" that works so well I've actually enjoy playing out of these bunkers.

I use my 60 degree wedge with very little bounce, open up the face all the way, then set up with my hands way in front of the ball. I try to swing with a steep attack angle, dig into the "sand," and push my hands through so the leading edge digs more then it would on a regular bunker shot. This works really well for me and like I said, I don't have a problem with these bunkers anymore.

The resulting shot is high, lands soft, and stops after 1 bounce. I'm really not sure how it turns out so well for me but I'd defiantly give it a shot.

 

 

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FYI, I was in Phoenix a couple of years ago and playing a very nice course. On one par 4 with four bunkers around the green, the course was taking out two of the bunkers. I was told that each bunker cost $7500 a year to maintain; most likely grounds keepers time for the most part, but the sand was excellent. I can understand why courses don't maintain their bunkers very well. $$$$$

Yah, that superintendent gives others a bad name. We hand raked bunkers, pulled weeds, 3 times per week. Trimming another day, for a total of 1 hour per bunker, per week. 52 times $15 (10 per hour plus taxes etc) equals $780. Add about $100 for topping off sand and you get less than $1,000 per bunker, per year. I bet he didn't give the GM $15,000 off his budget!

 

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As others have said, I try to pick it clean. Remember the first goal of a bunker shot is get out of the bunker. With a hard pan lie sometimes you have to just get it out and not worry about where the hole is. A 40 foot putt is better than a second shot in the bad bunker.

 

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No matter how good the attempt, most likely it will roll a good distance since you can't get any spin. Hard or stoney bunkers also do a number on your clubs.

 

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