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When I was playing today one of the guys in our group asked what I thought about during my swing. I told him that when I was young and gumby flexible I thought about turning my left shoulder under my chin. But now that I have lost some of that stretchability my swing thought is to turn my right shoulder back and the left should follow. It's pretty much the only thing I think about other that target awareness. I would be interested in what works for you guys?

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Don't **** this up.

 

Mine was also put my left shoulder under chin, then replace that with the right. But now it's the one up there. I'm all over the place.

 

 

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A friend of mine was on the range last week.  He's a +1 HCP.  He addressed the ball, stood over it for maybe 30 sec before hit the shot; beautiful laser!!  Every shot was like this.  After he finished, I asked what he thought about when standing over the ball.  He said:  "Absolutely nothing!"  He clears his mind of all thoughts; nothing, nada.  I have no clue how he does it.  I just know that I can't do it.

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I think long back swing and chicken wing follow through. I noticed I can hit the ball better without taking super deep divots.

 

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A friend of mine was on the range last week.  He's a +1 HCP.  He addressed the ball, stood over it for maybe 30 sec before hit the shot; beautiful laser!!  Every shot was like this.  After he finished, I asked what he thought about when standing over the ball.  He said:  "Absolutely nothing!"  He clears his mind of all thoughts; nothing, nada.  I have no clue how he does it.  I just know that I can't do it.

 

 

... Pretty much how I play. It is very zen like. Easy enough to do when you are playing well, but a little more difficult when playing poorly. Still doable, but just more difficult to drown out the noise. 

 

... I always gave my students this example. If you give your brain the information, it will process it and accomplish it's task. Like walking down a rocky path. You do not watch your feet on every step. You look at the rocks ahead by a few steps and your brain takes in where the rocks are and moves your feet accordingly. If you allow it, the golf swing is the same way. Your brain knows what you want to accomplish but if you give it conflicting information it will change it's goal to "keep your head down" and now that is it's primary goal. Never more true than putting. Look at the line and allow your brain to take in the line, then just try and hit it at the speed that takes the ball where you want it to end up. You can even do it with your eyes shut! 

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... Pretty much how I play. It is very zen like. Easy enough to do when you are playing well, but a little more difficult when playing poorly. Still doable, but just more difficult to drown out the noise. 

... I always gave my students this example. If you give your brian the information, it will process it and accomplish it's task. Like walking down a rocky path. You do not watch your feet on every step. You look at the rocks ahead by a few steps and your brain takes in where the rocks are and moves your feet accordingly. If you allow it, the golf swing is the same way. Your brain knows what you want to accomplish but if you give it conflicting information it will change it's goal to "keep your head down" and now that is it's primary goal. Never more true than putting. Look at the line and allow your brain to take in the line, then just try and hit it at the speed that takes the ball where you want it to end up. You can even do it with your eyes shut!

 

So is it more of a picture in your head, seeing the flight of the ball, or just processing the information?

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If you give your brian the information, it will process it and accomplish it's task. Like walking down a rocky path. You do not watch your feet on every step. You look at the rocks ahead by a few steps and your brain takes in where the rocks are and moves your feet accordingly. 

 

 

Exactly.  I try to avoid swing thoughts and just clear my mind.   I switch golf mode on and off to ensure I stay focused at the right time which helps when play is slow.   I know in my round this weekend;  I started taking the club back and remember thinking that the club was going back a little outside;  well the swing resulted in a big pull hook.  Shaun Clement the youtube instructor preaches the focus on the task mentality.  While I don't usually watch youtube videos,  he had one about when you make your backswing think about putting the club in the position to make the swing you need to execute the task.   Actually seems to work fairly well.  

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I have the hardest time with below my feet shots, thin city. So if I have one I am subconsciously thinking I'm going to mess this up, then the questions begin. I fight myself and end up 90° right of where I was aiming and 45° east of the hole!!

 

So if I aim 120° - 180° to the left club up twice, swing smooth I will pull it 30° to the left OB, have to take a drop and do it all over...

 

Yeah. I need to stop thinking.

 

 

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I only think of swinging down the line so I don't duck hook every single shot because my hips spin crazy fast.  Then adjust slightly for fade/draw.  

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... Sooner or later, usually sooner, swing thoughts are over used. The brain begins to concentrate more on the swing thought than the task at hand. Imo they are OK as a band aid if you are struggling, but when actually playing your concentration should be on hitting the shot with the distance and trajectory you want. The less you think, the better.

Seems to be the case for sure. Less is more.

All swings thoughts or keys if any are done during the practice swing(s). Done is the thing. Do it > forget it.

Target IS the distance; one and the same. Target. Pull the trigger.

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My best rounds have been those where I had no swing thoughts, just a target.

 

My biggest problem is changing from range brain to play brain. That is not taking my swing thoughts from the range to course. As soon as I hit a bad shot during play, I start thinking about how I will correct things on the next swing, then I just start scrambling instead of focusing on my targets.

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VAEA-

 

Visualize - Stand behind the ball, see my shot, know what I want to do with the ball

 

Address - Address the ball with club square to the line I have just picked, feet together, then step forward with the left foot to the appropriate distance, square with club face, so body is in line with the club face.

 

Execute the swing-

 

Accept the results - I know that sounds funny, but reality is getting upset at a missed shot or pull or whatever does nothing for the shot, and has a very real potential to screw up the next two... so accept, move on and do it again!!!

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I try to not focus too much on the technical stuff during a round of golf. Although, if I get a little off track during a round making a smooth takeaway would be the first place I begin practicing. 

 

My focus generally is on the target and how I want the ball to travel to get to there.

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One last alignment check. Then smooth take away.

 

If I feel like I am too quick or my last shot was a slice I switch and focus on breathing and grip pressure.

 

I try and leave all the technical stuff on the range. On the course my game will be whatever it will be.

 

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... Sooner or later, usually sooner, swing thoughts are over used. The brain begins to concentrate more on the swing thought than the task at hand. Imo they are OK as a band aid if you are struggling, but when actually playing your concentration should be on hitting the shot with the distance and trajectory you want. The less you think, the better.

 

 

Exactly.  I try to avoid swing thoughts and just clear my mind.   I switch golf mode on and off to ensure I stay focused at the right time which helps when play is slow.   I know in my round this weekend;  I started taking the club back and remember thinking that the club was going back a little outside;  well the swing resulted in a big pull hook.  Shaun Clement the youtube instructor preaches the focus on the task mentality.  While I don't usually watch youtube videos,  he had one about when you make your backswing think about putting the club in the position to make the swing you need to execute the task.   Actually seems to work fairly well.  

 

 

These are bang on and something I admittedly struggle with. The sports psychology research shows you need to be externally focused on the target rather than internally focused on the mechanical movements of the swing. You will actually tire more quickly by actively thinking about swing mechanics. You will want to play another 18 if you can just focus on the shot. Shawn Clement has some good (often overly long) things to say about this. But I will say I didn't play my best golf until I started externally focusing.

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It's bear not to have any swing thoughts. It easier said than done. It took me about 4-6 months to get my preshot routine done and about 2 seconds before a shot that I don't think about anything except for the target.

 

Hey-oh! That's taking dead aim from Harvey Pennick.

 

Swing thoughts lead to mechanical thoughts and swing fix, then you stop playing golf but working instead. It's just a big no no for me.

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My thought is to be slow from the top. I tend to have a very quick transition from the top of my swing, so I just try to make sure I keep it slow in the transition. It's all tempo.

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I definitely play my best when there is nothing in my head when I swing.

 

When Kaymer won either the PGA or US open, he was asked what he was thinking on the 72nd tee box. His answer: "Nothing."

 

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