Camcmart Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 So I know this is a GOLF forum, but are there any other soccer fans out there? With Champions League Group Stage day 1 in the books, I need to discuss it with others who care. Premier League and WCQ are also an option, but I don't pay much attention to MLS or any other international leagues. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Fireinthehole 1 Quote Driver: 10.5* XR16 R Flex Woods: Big Bertha V-Series 3 Wood R Flex Hybrid: 913H 21* R flex Irons: C300 4-PW R Flex Wedges: SM5 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: 2135 Cero 33" / EXO Seven S 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furu Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I'll forgive you calling it soccer. I know how it is over there. CL. Round 1. Difference between top 3-4 clubs and the rest is getting bigger? Surprised to see both Benfica and Porto lose at home to fairly week opposition. Benfica haven't renewed their team. Will struggle in CL. English teams are still just ok in CL. Liverpool with a stupid draw. Complete lack of central defenders. Needed to buy van Dijk. Didn't get him. Spurs beat Dortmund, but if you're ever going to beat them now is the perfect time. Selling top players like Dembele. PSG are just ridiculous. Broke every single financial fair play law, but what a team. I've like the club since Rochetau, Bats and Roche. They've lost the French style, but have traded it for something that looks like a CL-winning team. No need to follow MLS, but you're missing out if you don't follow some of the national leagues. La Liga is fascinating. Ligue1 is underrated. Bundesliga is organized. Serie A is overrated. I follow Primeira Liga in Portugal because I love the country Hackabilly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camcmart Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'll forgive you calling it soccer. I know how it is over there. CL. Round 1. Difference between top 3-4 clubs and the rest is getting bigger? Surprised to see both Benfica and Porto lose at home to fairly week opposition. Benfica haven't renewed their team. Will struggle in CL. English teams are still just ok in CL. Liverpool with a stupid draw. Complete lack of central defenders. Needed to buy van Dijk. Didn't get him. Spurs beat Dortmund, but if you're ever going to beat them now is the perfect time. Selling top players like Dembele. PSG are just ridiculous. Broke every single financial fair play law, but what a team. I've like the club since Rochetau, Bats and Roche. They've lost the French style, but have traded it for something that looks like a CL-winning team. No need to follow MLS, but you're missing out if you don't follow some of the national leagues. La Liga is fascinating. Ligue1 is underrated. Bundesliga is organized. Serie A is overrated. I follow Primeira Liga in Portugal because I love the country Thank you for overlooking my country's incorrect title for the sport haha I'd call it football but with the majority of MGS being from the states, I thought I might lose a few members. I watched he majority of the Dortmund/Tottenham game today and highlights of the others. Tottenham needed that win in Wembley to get them going in CL and EPL; Dortmund just got outplayed in the last third of the pitch with a tough offsides call on Aubameyang that could've changed the game. Ronaldo had his triumphant return that all his adoring fans had hoped for. Shahktar had a good win over a good Napoli squad. Man City beat a weak Feyenoord team. Overall nothing too surprising outside of the Porto and Benfica losses at home. I'd like to watch more Bundesliga, La Liga and Serie A but unfortunately those games aren't usually televised for my enjoyment. I'm very excited for the World Cup next summer though Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver: 10.5* XR16 R Flex Woods: Big Bertha V-Series 3 Wood R Flex Hybrid: 913H 21* R flex Irons: C300 4-PW R Flex Wedges: SM5 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: 2135 Cero 33" / EXO Seven S 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furu Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Tottenhams victory was very popular here. Norwegians are anglophile. It's normal to travel to several games in England every year. Som even travel to all stadiums in the division system! I've only been to a few Newcastle matches. St James' Park is a special place. Cool fact about Ronaldo and Real - under Zidane, they've never lost when playing without Ronaldo in the team. Shaktar was a little surprising. They've got great quality (always some really good Brazilians in the team), but I did expect more from the Italians. A true football nerd appreciates how Napoli plays. Look at this video. Playing out from the back against the worlds most aggressive team - Diego Simeones Atletico. The World Cup. Well. Norway is at an all time low in football and wont be there. I think there's too many teams in the WC now. Miss the old championships in the 80s and 90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camcmart Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 Tottenhams victory was very popular here. Norwegians are anglophile. It's normal to travel to several games in England every year. Som even travel to all stadiums in the division system! I've only been to a few Newcastle matches. St James' Park is a special place. Cool fact about Ronaldo and Real - under Zidane, they've never lost when playing without Ronaldo in the team. Shaktar was a little surprising. They've got great quality (always some really good Brazilians in the team), but I did expect more from the Italians. A true football nerd appreciates how Napoli plays. Look at this video. Playing out from the back against the worlds most aggressive team - Diego Simeones Atletico. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pssPXUABhb8 The World Cup. Well. Norway is at an all time low in football and wont be there. I think there's too many teams in the WC now. Miss the old championships in the 80s and 90s. It's definitely on my bucket list to make it to several European league games, EPL, CL, La Liga, Serie A, or Bundesliga. I adore European football compared to the long-ball and chase the ball MLS. Napoli is a class act Italian football club and it's so refreshing to watch the one-touch effortless attack from the back. The World Cup is growing more and more distant for the US as the lack of quality in youth development begins to show. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver: 10.5* XR16 R Flex Woods: Big Bertha V-Series 3 Wood R Flex Hybrid: 913H 21* R flex Irons: C300 4-PW R Flex Wedges: SM5 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: 2135 Cero 33" / EXO Seven S 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 there is no offense and it's boring. Fix all the diving, use replay for yellow and red cards, and also use replay to determine if the ball went in the goal. They need to figure out a way for scoring, every now and again a great 1-0 match is good, but almost every match is 1 or 2 goals, it's not enough in 90 minutes of play to peak any interest. I wish it was better but it's just super boring st this time. Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackabilly Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I haven't paid much attention the last year or so since I turned off Cable. I used to watch a lot of CL and EPL games. But since turning off Cable and adding a third kid I don't get to watch much, I sure miss it though. That video of Napoli is pretty impressive. Almost looked like they decided on a number of passes they had to get in the back before sending it forward. Stuff like that wears mentally on the opposing team. I love it! Sent from my Pixel using MyGolfSpy mobile app Camcmart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camcmart Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 there is no offense and it's boring. Fix all the diving, use replay for yellow and red cards, and also use replay to determine if the ball went in the goal. They need to figure out a way for scoring, every now and again a great 1-0 match is good, but almost every match is 1 or 2 goals, it's not enough in 90 minutes of play to peak any interest. I wish it was better but it's just super boring st this time.I respectfully disagree with you, but I'd say I'm a bit bias having spent the majority of my life playing soccer so I feel as though I'm able to appreciate those 0-0 draws that were still enticing. The diving gets old but the refs have gotten much better about giving yellow cards for dives particularly in the penalty box. And they do use goal-line technology in many FIFA tournaments now which has been a game changer. I find MLS to be boring, but European leagues know how to play and the buildup leading to a goal or a great save make a good match great in an instant. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver: 10.5* XR16 R Flex Woods: Big Bertha V-Series 3 Wood R Flex Hybrid: 913H 21* R flex Irons: C300 4-PW R Flex Wedges: SM5 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: 2135 Cero 33" / EXO Seven S 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireinthehole Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 So I know this is a GOLF forum, but are there any other soccer fans out there? With Champions League Group Stage day 1 in the books, I need to discuss it with others who care. Premier League and WCQ are also an option, but I don't pay much attention to MLS or any other international leagues. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I had a good one watching Sevilla vs Liverpool But all I wanted to watch was city's first match. Also enjoyed watching Barcelona vs Juventus Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Camcmart 1 Quote My Mixed-Bag: Driver: Mavrik Sub zero, ventus black 7x Fairway: Still looking! Irons: MP-18 MB 4-PW Wedges: Miura K Grinds Putter: Evnroll 1.2 blade Ball: Z star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I respectfully disagree with you, but I'd say I'm a bit bias having spent the majority of my life playing soccer so I feel as though I'm able to appreciate those 0-0 draws that were still enticing. The diving gets old but the refs have gotten much better about giving yellow cards for dives particularly in the penalty box. And they do use goal-line technology in many FIFA tournaments now which has been a game changer. I find MLS to be boring, but European leagues know how to play and the buildup leading to a goal or a great save make a good match great in an instant. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy The occasional 0-0, 1-0 matches are good, but in a general sense of everyday soccer, the sport needs more scoring. The big matches have other factors to them so 1-0 is a good match, but when there is no star power or other impact to make it a good match, people want the ball in the net, that's what it needs if it wants people to watch regularly Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiro Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Thank you for overlooking my country's incorrect title for the sport haha I'd call it football but with the majority of MGS being from the states, I thought I might lose a few members. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy But think of how many more clicks you would get if you called it I follow Tottenham in the PL and Timbers in MLS. I know the level of play in MLS is not as good as abroad but it is good to support your local team if you have one. More viewership=>more TV money=>better players=>more viewership in theory. Plus if our domestic league gets stronger, one would hope that translates to better domestic players and a more competitive national team--one can hope. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Launcher HB Driver 10.5* | Launcher HB 5W | Launcher HB 3H and 4H | Launcher CBX Irons 5-PW | CBX Wedges 50*, 54*, 58* | TFI 2135 Cero Putter | Q Star Balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furu Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 there is no offense and it's boring. Fix all the diving, use replay for yellow and red cards, and also use replay to determine if the ball went in the goal. They need to figure out a way for scoring, every now and again a great 1-0 match is good, but almost every match is 1 or 2 goals, it's not enough in 90 minutes of play to peak any interest. I wish it was better but it's just super boring st this time. They are trying out video decisions this season, but most fans hate it. Takes time and ruins the flow. Minutes waiting for a decision? That's ok in NFL but not football. By the way - offense is when you have the ball. That's it. You don't understand football. That's ok. You'll never enjoy it the way fans do. Diving - yes. But who cares? Watching Neymar roll around after being hit by a feather in the wind isn't what it's about. Go to a 2.division game in England. A derby in Istanbul (if you have a death wish....). We even fixed basketball for you. Camcmart and Fireinthehole 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseclelland Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Yup I'm a fan and former player. Long time ago was on the national team pool of players and played in Europe. Now golf takes my passion. I'll watch EPL and World Cup. Team is Tottenham for EPL. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Jiro 1 Quote Driver: Callaway 815 DBD Irons: New Ben Hogan Ft. Worth 15's with KBS C-Taper Stiff Flex Shafts 21,25,29,33,37,41,45 Wedges: Ben Hogan TK with KBS Tour V Stiff Flex Shafts 52,56,60 Putter: Scotty Cameron Golo 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 They are trying out video decisions this season, but most fans hate it. Takes time and ruins the flow. Minutes waiting for a decision? That's ok in NFL but not football. By the way - offense is when you have the ball. That's it. You don't understand football. That's ok. You'll never enjoy it the way fans do. Diving - yes. But who cares? Watching Neymar roll around after being hit by a feather in the wind isn't what it's about. Go to a 2.division game in England. A derby in Istanbul (if you have a death wish....). We even fixed basketball for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRv4GGksqXc I understand the soccer game very well, played for many years, and coached some. I miss spoke about offense, I meant lack of scoring. Basically there is none, Or there is very little in most games, the only time you see scoring is when one team is really good and the other isn't. I watch the World Cup, mainly because my daughter likes to watch, but outside of that, soccer needs to figure something's out if I'm gonna waste 3 hours watch that boring game. Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireinthehole Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I understand the soccer game very well, played for many years, and coached some. I miss spoke about offense, I meant lack of scoring. Basically there is none, Or there is very little in most games, the only time you see scoring is when one team is really good and the other isn't. I watch the World Cup, mainly because my daughter likes to watch, but outside of that, soccer needs to figure something's out if I'm gonna waste 3 hours watch that boring game. I see that being relative, a 2-0 score line is a 14-0 NFL score. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote My Mixed-Bag: Driver: Mavrik Sub zero, ventus black 7x Fairway: Still looking! Irons: MP-18 MB 4-PW Wedges: Miura K Grinds Putter: Evnroll 1.2 blade Ball: Z star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiro Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Yup I'm a fan and former player. Long time ago was on the national team pool of players and played in Europe. Now golf takes my passion. I'll watch EPL and World Cup. Team is Tottenham for EPL. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy COYS! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Launcher HB Driver 10.5* | Launcher HB 5W | Launcher HB 3H and 4H | Launcher CBX Irons 5-PW | CBX Wedges 50*, 54*, 58* | TFI 2135 Cero Putter | Q Star Balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Ryman Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I do follow the kicky-kicky. Started when I adopted the Croatian national team at WC98. Some would say it's the jerseys, others would say it's because Zvonimir Boban is an awesome name and he became my favorite player. Didn't get back into until college, but living freshman year in the international dorm will do that to you.Followed Boban to his club and became a fan of AC Milan, my number one team. I also follow all the major European Leagues to an extent. Also follow MLS, my college team (Syracuse) and our local NASL and Pro Indoor teams as well (Syracuse FC and Syracuse Silver Knights, respectfully).Perhaps the biggest thing to turn me on to footie in a big way was when my Aussie friend turned me on to Football Manager. That game is like crack. Thanks for that one Jamie.Lastly, proud to say that I have attended a few memorable soccer experiences. Caught a Europa League game in Paris between PSG (before the spending spree) and Benfica in 2011 and a USA v. Brazil friendly in Washington DC in 2013. I hope one day to just go wild on a Euro trip to catch a ton of games, but that will wait. Camcmart and Hackabilly 2 Quote In a Hoofer Lite bag TSR2, 10 degrees, A1 setting, Fujikara Speeder NX Blue 50-S Stealth, 15 degrees, VA Composites Nemesys 70-S E722, 19 degrees, Oban Devotion 80-S JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex CBX Zipcore 50* (bent to *49) and RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 54* (bent to *55), DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue Staff Model TG 60*, Dynamic Gold 120 S300 SIK Golf Flo-C Tour B-XS (2022 Model) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Was just about to start a new thread but I decided to surface this 6 year old one instead Anyways, I’m a huge supporter of Arsenal (sorry to the Spurs fan above ) - holding out hope we win out the Prem this year. It’s been an amazing (and incredibly stressful) ride so far! Regardless, NORTH LONDON IS RED!!! Random fact - my wife and I honeymooned in Ireland, and as part of our trip, I made her go to a match at the Emirates. JohnSmalls 1 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 10 hours ago, CFreddie said: Was just about to start a new thread but I decided to surface this 6 year old one instead Anyways, I’m a huge supporter of Arsenal (sorry to the Spurs fan above ) - holding out hope we win out the Prem this year. It’s been an amazing (and incredibly stressful) ride so far! Regardless, NORTH LONDON IS RED!!! Random fact - my wife and I honeymooned in Ireland, and as part of our trip, I made her go to a match at the Emirates. There's a few of us metric football fans hiding here on the forum. We've got a Premier League thread rolling (shameless plug). Should be a great finish between City and Arsenal. There's still plenty of time for either to bottle it CFreddie 1 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Thanks so much for sharing @JohnSmalls! Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Just now, CFreddie said: Thanks so much for sharing @JohnSmalls! You got it! We need a little more life in that thread! CFreddie 1 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, JohnSmalls said: You got it! We need a little more life in that thread! Done and done! JohnSmalls 1 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BEN Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Internationally: Crystal Palace FC Domestically: FC Cincinnati Having lived in the Cincinnati area since 1991, I have grown quite adept to supporting sporting lost causes. Josh Parker 1 Quote WITB: D: TBD ??? 3w: Paradym 15° Hzrdus 6.0 3h: G430 19° Tour 2/Stiff 4u: T200 Utility Build 24° Hzrdus 6.0 5i: T200 25° Recoil 110 f4 6i-PW: Z 765 28°-46° N.S Pro 1050 gh S 50°: SM-8 54° & 58°: Glide Forged Pro P: Toulon Designs Atlanta Ball: Chrome Tour X Bag: Jones Trouper R stand bag "And so, we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaselessly into the past." - Fitzgerald ” The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep.” - Frost "That you are here—that life exists and identity, That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse." - Whitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BEN Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 With the premier league off for the summer, my focus shifts domestically. What a great season the local lads are having! It has been a pleasure and a joy following this team lately. Quote WITB: D: TBD ??? 3w: Paradym 15° Hzrdus 6.0 3h: G430 19° Tour 2/Stiff 4u: T200 Utility Build 24° Hzrdus 6.0 5i: T200 25° Recoil 110 f4 6i-PW: Z 765 28°-46° N.S Pro 1050 gh S 50°: SM-8 54° & 58°: Glide Forged Pro P: Toulon Designs Atlanta Ball: Chrome Tour X Bag: Jones Trouper R stand bag "And so, we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaselessly into the past." - Fitzgerald ” The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep.” - Frost "That you are here—that life exists and identity, That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse." - Whitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BEN Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 My beloved FC Cincinnati just dismantled the NY RedBulls in game 1 of the MLS Cup playoffs 1st round. Top of the world this evening lads! Josh Parker 1 Quote WITB: D: TBD ??? 3w: Paradym 15° Hzrdus 6.0 3h: G430 19° Tour 2/Stiff 4u: T200 Utility Build 24° Hzrdus 6.0 5i: T200 25° Recoil 110 f4 6i-PW: Z 765 28°-46° N.S Pro 1050 gh S 50°: SM-8 54° & 58°: Glide Forged Pro P: Toulon Designs Atlanta Ball: Chrome Tour X Bag: Jones Trouper R stand bag "And so, we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaselessly into the past." - Fitzgerald ” The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep.” - Frost "That you are here—that life exists and identity, That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse." - Whitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 My local team did not do well this year but I knew they wouldn't. To many roster changes every game and relied on one player to much. GolfSpy_BEN 1 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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