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5 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

back of the arm, plus a bit of tingle/numbness in fingers. heading to the doctor later this morning. 

Let us know; hope it's nothing too serious.  Sucks having to rest during the season.

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3 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Let us know; hope it's nothing too serious.  Sucks having to rest during the season.

Just got back from the doctor. He said the X-rays showed the very beginning of degenerative disc disease in the C5 and C6 discs. He gave me some Voltaren and said that it may flare up time to time and to manage the flare ups but overall not to change the way I live my life. Obviously i should take it easy when a flare up occurs, but I can continue playing golf, exercising, etc. normally when everything is feeling ok. 

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2 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

Just got back from the doctor. He said the X-rays showed the very beginning of degenerative disc disease in the C5 and C6 discs. He gave me some Voltaren and said that it may flare up time to time and to manage the flare ups but overall not to change the way I live my life. Obviously i should take it easy when a flare up occurs, but I can continue playing golf, exercising, etc. normally when everything is feeling ok. 

I'm glad you can continue to play, but what's the long term assessment if you don't mind my asking?

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8 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

I'm glad you can continue to play, but what's the long term assessment if you don't mind my asking?

It will get worse, regardless if i play golf or not.

Its one of those medical conditions that sounds worse than it is, particularly at the stage i am at. From WebMD:

"Degenerative disk disease is when normal changes that take place in the disks of your spine cause pain. Nearly everyone's disks break down over time, but not everyone feels pain. If worn-out spinal disks are the reason you're hurting, you have degenerative disk disease."

Also, no back pain or neck pain, just the shoulder and arm pain with numbness, so the DDD is causing a flare up due to a pinched nerve. 

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15 hours ago, dlow206 said:

It will get worse, regardless if i play golf or not.

Its one of those medical conditions that sounds worse than it is, particularly at the stage i am at. From WebMD:

"Degenerative disk disease is when normal changes that take place in the disks of your spine cause pain. Nearly everyone's disks break down over time, but not everyone feels pain. If worn-out spinal disks are the reason you're hurting, you have degenerative disk disease."

Also, no back pain or neck pain, just the shoulder and arm pain with numbness, so the DDD is causing a flare up due to a pinched nerve. 

I feel you mate, I have it in my L5/S1 and most days my back is screaming at me.

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2 hours ago, MattF said:

I feel you mate, I have it in my L5/S1 and most days my back is screaming at me.

This injury/issue is the craziest thing. Last night, could barely move my arm becomes of the pain and discomfort. Took the anti-inflammatory that my doctor gave me, it relieved some of the pain and i went to bed. Woke up this morning feeling almost like nothing ever happened. 

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2 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

This injury/issue is the craziest thing. Last night, could barely move my arm becomes of the pain and discomfort. Took the anti-inflammatory that my doctor gave me, it relieved some of the pain and i went to bed. Woke up this morning feeling almost like nothing ever happened. 

Kind of sounds like you have some nerve impingement also which is normal with the way you’re describing the lose of feelings in your whole arm.

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21 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

This injury/issue is the craziest thing. Last night, could barely move my arm becomes of the pain and discomfort. Took the anti-inflammatory that my doctor gave me, it relieved some of the pain and i went to bed. Woke up this morning feeling almost like nothing ever happened. 

did your doctor bring up how your posture might be exacerbating the disk degeneration?

i trained (in a gym, not on computers) IT guys in seattle for a few years and every last one of them presented with the same internally rotated shoulders and thoracic arch that you have. 

it’s amazing what getting those guys into external rotation and opening up their thoracic spine did for their pain and mobility. 

something about a doctor putting a 37 year old on arthritis meds and sending him on his way with “just deal with it” doesn’t sit right with me. 

there’s a ton that can be done that doesn’t involve doctors or drugs. 

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12 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

did your doctor bring up how your posture might be exacerbating the disk degeneration?

i trained (in a gym, not on computers) IT guys in seattle for a few years and every last one of them presented with the same internally rotated shoulders and thoracic arch that you have. 

it’s amazing what getting those guys into external rotation and opening up their thoracic spine did for their pain and mobility. 

something about a doctor putting a 37 year old on arthritis meds and sending him on his way with “just deal with it” doesn’t sit right with me. 

there’s a ton that can be done that doesn’t involve doctors or drugs. 

This ^^^^ And not just for IT guys but probably 99% of general population at this point are constantly internally rotated at shoulders and in thoracic flexion. Purely from quality of life it would benefit almost all to focus on opening that up but especially golfers (external rotation of shoulder during downswing). 

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18 hours ago, dlow206 said:

Just got back from the doctor. He said the X-rays showed the very beginning of degenerative disc disease in the C5 and C6 discs. He gave me some Voltaren and said that it may flare up time to time and to manage the flare ups but overall not to change the way I live my life. Obviously i should take it easy when a flare up occurs, but I can continue playing golf, exercising, etc. normally when everything is feeling ok. 

Have you been to a rheumatologist? Just curious since my initial back issues were diagnosed similarly, and over time turned out to be Ankylosing Spondylitis. Might be worth seeing a rheum and getting an opinion just in case there are inflammatory markers in the blood work they will do.

Benn there with you, my friend. 

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22 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

did your doctor bring up how your posture might be exacerbating the disk degeneration?

i trained (in a gym, not on computers) IT guys in seattle for a few years and every last one of them presented with the same internally rotated shoulders and thoracic arch that you have. 

it’s amazing what getting those guys into external rotation and opening up their thoracic spine did for their pain and mobility. 

something about a doctor putting a 37 year old on arthritis meds and sending him on his way with “just deal with it” doesn’t sit right with me. 

there’s a ton that can be done that doesn’t involve doctors or drugs. 

This doctor sent me on my way because he was an urgent care doctor. He told me to make an appointment with my primary care doctor for ongoing treatment/management plan, so I have that setup for next week. For sure there is exercise/mobility work that I can do to improve this. 

6 minutes ago, PMookie said:

Have you been to a rheumatologist? Just curious since my initial back issues were diagnosed similarly, and over time turned out to be Ankylosing Spondylitis. Might be worth seeing a rheum and getting an opinion just in case there are inflammatory markers in the blood work they will do.

Benn there with you, my friend. 

Have not been to any doctors besides the urgent care doctor, since this was a completely new issue for me. 

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1 hour ago, dlow206 said:

This doctor sent me on my way because he was an urgent care doctor. He told me to make an appointment with my primary care doctor for ongoing treatment/management plan, so I have that setup for next week. For sure there is exercise/mobility work that I can do to improve this. 

Have not been to any doctors besides the urgent care doctor, since this was a completely new issue for me. 

I had a pinched nerve from a herniated disc back in November. Was so bad I couldn't lay down to sleep. 

In talking with my orthopedic doctor and the PT there, we were pretty sure it was golf related, and likely from some shoulder weaknesses (partial tear in the left one).

Since I came back to golf in February,  I have been doing a lot if the PT exercises (external rotation with band, straight arm push downs, etc), along with regular weight lifting. I have been focusing on lots of shoulder and back exercises. I have also been doing pilates 2 times a week, and doing ab routines 2 to 3 times a week as well. Constantly working on mobility in my neck, shoulders, back, and hips. 

Has done wonders and no issues yet.

I think not sitting at a desk all day and getting up and moving is key. 

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Pain and numbness is back with a vengeance after the medicine wore off. Guess the medicine does a good job of masking the issue.

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21 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

did your doctor bring up how your posture might be exacerbating the disk degeneration?

i trained (in a gym, not on computers) IT guys in seattle for a few years and every last one of them presented with the same internally rotated shoulders and thoracic arch that you have. 

it’s amazing what getting those guys into external rotation and opening up their thoracic spine did for their pain and mobility. 

something about a doctor putting a 37 year old on arthritis meds and sending him on his way with “just deal with it” doesn’t sit right with me. 

there’s a ton that can be done that doesn’t involve doctors or drugs. 

Combine the poor standing / walking posture, sitting in front of a computer screen with looking down at a phone for many hours and you'll get a lot of people with shoulder, neck and high back issues....me included.  I do quite a few stretching exercises for my neck & shoulders (not as regularly as I should) and it helps cut down on the neck & arm pain and numb fingers a lot.  

 

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38 minutes ago, Shapotomous said:

Combine the poor standing / walking posture, sitting in front of a computer screen with looking down at a phone for many hours and you'll get a lot of people with shoulder, neck and high back issues....me included.  I do quite a few stretching exercises for my neck & shoulders (not as regularly as I should) and it helps cut down on the neck & arm pain and numb fingers a lot.  

 

100% correct.  almost everything we do puts us into internal shoulder rotation and thoracic flexion.  those are fancy terms for rounded and slumped.

i used to give clients of mine a quick series of stretches to do hourly at work that would combat the effects of sitting and rounding the shoulders

here’s a quick mobility screening for stuff like this 

https://manaperformancetherapy.com/2017/09/06/3-quick-tests-to-assess-overhead-shoulder-mobility/

 

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17 hours ago, dlow206 said:

Pain and numbness is back with a vengeance after the medicine wore off. Guess the medicine does a good job of masking the issue.

Physical therapy should be able to help you out. X-rays are good at looking at disk space and MRI is much better at telling you if their is a herniation or bulging disk pinching the nerve which can create the referred pain down your arm

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Besides going to the doctor and figuring out a plan with the doctor, i am going to buy a standing desk and an ergonomic chair.

Can't continue with sitting around on the couch working on my laptop all day (don't judge, im changing my ways now). 

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1 hour ago, dlow206 said:

Besides going to the doctor and figuring out a plan with the doctor, i am going to buy a standing desk and an ergonomic chair.

Can't continue with sitting around on the couch working on my laptop all day (don't judge, im changing my ways now). 

good on you for trying to change things up, but you’re addressing things that aren’t the root cause of your issue. 

whether you’re standing or sitting, working on your computer rolls your shoulders forward and puts your thoracic spine in flexion. 

https://thebarbellphysio.com/top-five-thoracic-mobility-drills-to-improve-your-overhead-pressing/

that video and article are good places to start for undoing the structural and postural damage you’ve done to your upper back, neck, and shoulders.

couple them with strengthening your lats, shoulders, core, and rotator cuffs and you’ll be on your way to being pain and medication free 

a nice bonus is you’ll hit the ball further, too  

 

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Did my normal stretches before I played yesterday, and it was 100* without the humidity, so I was loose at the start of 18. My low back stiffened early, so I was not a happy camper. I have a back disease and it’s been doing well, so I was frustrated when I couldn’t turn much during the round. No pain, just stiff… Ugh… Still 10 days from my next injection, so I’m hoping more stretching will help some! Time to call the masseuse!!!

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12 hours ago, dlow206 said:

Besides going to the doctor and figuring out a plan with the doctor, i am going to buy a standing desk and an ergonomic chair.

Can't continue with sitting around on the couch working on my laptop all day (don't judge, im changing my ways now). 

I think this is my first comment in regards to your back issue so I wanted to say first that I hope you learn to manage this the best way possible to minimize pain and progression. I'll keep you in my prayers.

Secondly, I have a standing desk at work and while I didn't use it as much as I should've it was nice to have.

Thirdly, I wonder if the Forme shirt that was on the We tried it series would help you. I have been thinking about getting it for posture and it sounds like it does what it says it does so I figured I would bring it to your attention.

https://mygolfspy.com/we-tried-it-forme-driven-by-science/

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