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Two things actually: first thing: why so exclusive??

Why does Japan get it's specific market with Japan-only brands and even with American manufacturers making specific Japan-only models, while the rest of the world gets everything normal stock. It's like there are two markets: Japan and the rest of the world.

 

I just don't get it. I am not sure about sales figures, but I am pretty sure that the US and Europe are a much bigger market than Japan, yet Japan still gets tons of exclusive stuff, Mizuno balls and shoes, Callaway Legacy series and a huge number of other exclusive brands: PRGR, TourStage, Dance with Dragon and Gold's Factory putters and wedges just to name a few.

 

The other thing, why is it that almost all irons sold in the Japanese market has to offer graphite shafts as the main choice, with steel shafts coming in 2nd. Even players irons like Mizuno MP67 and 68 and Titleist MBs and CBs, irons which in the US are offered only in steel shafts (graphite shafts being by special order AFAIK) yet in Japan they are offered in stock graphite shafts.

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With the shaft thing, when i was there, the shop owners told me that the people that usually can afford to play golf in Japan are older men, with slower sign speeds. They prefer graphite shafts in their irons.

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While I know little of the golf environment in Japan, what I have seen and heard is that in Japan clubs sometimes are more important than ones game. It is more of a status symbol at times and they are willing to pay much more for what they get. In America we are typically not willing to pay the prices they do in Japan for their high end equipment. It's simple economics for supply and demand between our market and Japans. This seems to go for both head designs and shaft designs.

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While I know little of the golf environment in Japan, what I have seen and heard is that in Japan clubs sometimes are more important than ones game. It is more of a status symbol at times and they are willing to pay much more for what they get. In America we are typically not willing to pay the prices they do in Japan for their high end equipment. It's simple economics for supply and demand between our market and Japans. This seems to go for both head designs and shaft designs.

 

That would seem to be a reasonable answer. I just did a quick check and the average income in Japan is @ $27K and the US @ $31K per the site I was on. Given the disparity you would think the US would get the equipment nod but then when you think about it - who buy$ Honnma...?

 

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That would seem to be a reasonable answer. I just did a quick check and the average income in Japan is @ $27K and the US @ $31K per the site I was on. Given the disparity you would think the US would get the equipment nod but then when you think about it - who buy$ Honnma...?

 

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Only the very rich I suspect :) $1800 for a used set on fleabay....wow.

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I wish the Japaneese Market was accesible to us. I like the looks of their irons. Seems like most of the irons I have seen have more of a players looks to them and so do the wedges. Im not a fan of the woods that the Japaneese have thought only because they are to crazy looking for me.

 

On the other hand is Vega considered Japaneese market Clubs? I have never seen any for sale or actually held any but I love the look of Vega clubs.

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The Japanese like lighter clubs to us westerners hence the differences. Head weights are generally lighter and shafts lighter and wippier.

 

Some shaft manufacturers make shafts specifically for sales outside of asia. There is a story as to why a Blue Board in the US does not have the flower decal like the Japanese version does. Maybe that is not a story for here though.

 

historically pricing in Japan is similar to Europe by comparison but is so much more expensive at the moment because of the exchange rate with the Yen.

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I wish the Japaneese Market was accesible to us. I like the looks of their irons. Seems like most of the irons I have seen have more of a players looks to them and so do the wedges. Im not a fan of the woods that the Japaneese have thought only because they are to crazy looking for me.

 

On the other hand is Vega considered Japaneese market Clubs? I have never seen any for sale or actually held any but I love the look of Vega clubs.

 

 

Well there are a few places you can get this equipment if you really like it better then what we have offered to us here in the USA. Tourspecgolf offers this type of equipment and I'm sure there's a few other sites around as well. That's the thing now with the INTERNET we can almost get anything we like. Just may have to pay some high fee's but is is available. Just have to do a little searching. But I see how many feel we should get a little more offered this way...

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I think tourspecgolf.com is the most trusted online retailer of everything golf made in Japan. Just get ready to get your credit card raped.

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FWIW, I've never understood the fascination with Japanese equipment. It's always struck me as a "grass is greener" thing. That said, I do like many of the staff bags that I see on TourSpec, I'm just not ready to skip a mortgage payment to get one.

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Some of the Japanese accessories are quite nice and unique. Como como headcovers are great, but just too pricy.

 

I have always wondered if the reverse is true too. Are there American products/clubs that are not available in Japan that the Japanese golfer seeks out?

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First impressions are good, but i want to play a little more with it before i write a bigger review. Its crazy cold here, so as soon as the weather gets better ill make a couple of more rounds and see if it stays good

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Some of the Japanese accessories are quite nice and unique. Como como headcovers are great, but just too pricy.

 

I have always wondered if the reverse is true too. Are there American products/clubs that are not available in Japan that the Japanese golfer seeks out?

 

Como come HCs are the only Japanese product I've ever actually dropped cash for. They made a monkey HC a couple years ago (?) that I bought immediately because I knew my wife would love it. She gets comments on it every single time we play golf. They're definitely not cheap though.

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Some of the Japanese accessories are quite nice and unique. Como como headcovers are great, but just too pricy.

 

I have always wondered if the reverse is true too. Are there American products/clubs that are not available in Japan that the Japanese golfer seeks out?

 

I would assume so, otherwise why would they make Japan only products.

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I think tourspecgolf.com is the most trusted online retailer of everything golf made in Japan. Just get ready to get your credit card raped.

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I would assume so, otherwise why would they make Japan only products.

We don't get the Japan only stuff, but I think that all of the US stuff is available in Japan. No US-Only.

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Como come HCs are the only Japanese product I've ever actually dropped cash for. They made a monkey HC a couple years ago (?) that I bought immediately because I knew my wife would love it. She gets comments on it every single time we play golf. They're definitely not cheap though.

I had a bunch of tarantulas in my classroom when I taught high school. Somehow the spider became cool to me. Cameron's halloween cover is the only spider cover besides the como come one that I have found. I think that the TM Spider may have cornered that market. Can't tell you how much I wanted to like the spider when it was released.

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