808nation Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 The ball with gps capabilities and a whole lot more tech for shot tracking data, but at $50 for 2 balls would you buy it? I'd be too afraid to lose it in the water, deeper woods, or taller bushes you can't get to. Sent from my SM-G955U using MyGolfSpy mobile app WITB: Driver: Sim2 Max w/ Fujikura Motore X F3 shaft FW Wood: F9 wood 14.5* Hybrids: Sim2 Max 3 Hybrid & Vapor Flex 4 hybrid Irons: Z565 - 7 thru PW & ZU85 - 5 thru 6 with Recoil ZT9 F4 shafts Wedges: RTX4 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Scotty Cameron M2 Newport Ball: Black & Pro V1 Bag: 2018 MyGolfSpy stand Bag & 2021 Greenside Golf stand bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDque Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 If I were to spring for one of these things, I'd need three assurances: 1. Some sort of "never lost" guarantee. 2. Durability to last many many rounds. 3. AT LEAST mid-level ball performance. Since it's highly unlikely these will occur at this price point, I'm out. Sent from carrier pigeon using MyGolfSpy In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txmason123 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I like this idea and really hope they make it to market. I understand people's concerns about losing the ball, but that can be managed. Don't tee it up on the most difficult hole or over long water shots. As a 26 handicap, I can still get through most holes without losing a ball. I haven't heard any reviews on their golf balls in general. Any thoughts out there? Mizuno JPX EZ driver Taylormade SLDR HL 3 wood Mizuno JPX EZ hybrids 3 & 4 Mizuno JPX EZ Irons 4-G Titleist SM6 Vokey wedge 54.10 Odyssey White Hot Pro V-line putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckymeyer Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 It's a cool proof of concept, but first and foremost the ball must perform. If it's the equivalent of a pinnacle gold I'm never going to play it. Then as someone else mentioned it's a durability issue. I'm more likely to scuff a ball with a wedge, tree, or cart path than I am to lose it. But I can just picture my brand new $25 ball bouncing off a cart path and getting a huge road rash. No thanks. Where I could see this being great is at a place like top golf, or in conjunction with a simulator. Don't really care about the GPS aspect of it, but getting all that ball data could be great with a lower cost simulator setup. But even then it comes back to ball performance. If it spins like a 2 piece distance ball then the data isn't really useful for me. So it's cool as a proof of concept for where the technology could go, but a long way from taking over the ball market. Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 If I need to use the GPS feature, I probably don't want to see where my ball ended. As Meyer mentioned, it could likely be best utilized with a LM with a fitter Sent from my E6853 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downlowkey Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I know some well heeled older gentlemen with failing vision that would happily pay these price points. Golf is tough game when you can't see and having to rely on your playing partners to constantly locate your golf ball is humbling pill to swallow. So let's try to set aside performance for a second and recognize this product could help certain golfers regain a sense of independence. For the time being this is definitely niche; but where there's a niche, there's a way. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy PXG___0811 X 9* - Mitsubishi Diamana s60 Limited X Cobra___S9-1 Pro 15* - Matrix Ozik XCON 7 S Adams___XTD Forged 3i - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S Adams___CMB 4-PW - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S KZG___Tri-Tour 50.08__54.10__58.12 - Accra iCWT 2.0-95i S Nike___Method Converge B1-01 (copper insert) Maxfli___'23 Tour X "The most important shot in golf is the next one“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonH2 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 To be successful and not have people criticizing price point I think they need to go the daily subscription route. ie a sleeve of balls a month is x and they are delivered for free or 4 dozen a year is x and you get a dozen every every 3 months with free delivery. This way people can buy in without worrying too much about losing the golf ball Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Ryman Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I'm of Meyer's school of thought on this one. To me this product fills a niche for techies, but I see its best use as an alternative to an in home simulator at a cheaper cost or as a range ball for companies trying to compete with Top Golf or the upcoming Trackman ranges who want to change the practice experience. Sure, it's really cool and I think it's awesome that it's a NY based company doing it, but I do think it's use as an actual on course product is limited at best because of fears of performance and more importantly cost. I'll be following to see what comes of it as it's an awesome idea in concept, but as to how it'll actually work... well, that's a whole different question. In a Hoofer Lite bag TSR2, 10 degrees, A1 setting, Fujikara Speeder NX Blue 50-S Stealth, 15 degrees, VA Composites Nemesys 70-S E722, 19 degrees, Oban Devotion 80-S JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex CBX Zipcore 50* (bent to *49) and RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 54* (bent to *55), DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue Staff Model TG 60*, Dynamic Gold 120 S300 SIK Golf Flo-C Tour B-XS (2022 Model) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-genius-ball#/ This is what I've been saying for years is coming. It was only a matter of time. At least these guys have taken a stab at it. I'll wait for the 3rd or 4th generation before I try it. Very interesting and best wishes. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfJunkie302 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Okay, this is a really intriguing concept. It would be ideal for a backyard practice facility, say a 125 yd shot, where you really can't lose it. Maybe the company could add a "range" setting where it only tracks carry dist., spin, etc. It also seems practicle to add a live tracking feature. Anyone who's been to TopGolf knows what I'm talking about. That would be awesome. Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app 2017 M1 460, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 JPX EZ 3 wood Fly-Z 4H MP-60, 3i-PW, True Temper Dynamic Gold S5 54° & 58°, True Temper Dynamic Gold California Monterey Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBH Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Someone told me Top Golf uses a similar ball to track shots in addition to launch monitors. It is how they create the vast array of different games like closest to the pin. I have yet to go to a Top Golf, but I imagine the use is in line with those. I for sure wouldn't find it as useful for open course play. What would it do for me? Unless it has a homing beacon that allows me to find it in open grass, I don't see any value to it for play. The analytical data side would be absolutely useful in practice and on a driving range. I don't see courses forking over the cash to replace thousands of balls with these as range balls. However; I imagine that is where they are most useful. For the player, probably best in practice like pitch and chip shots where you don't risk a lost ball and review the data to see actual spin and roll out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 So I've been toying with the idea of splurging on a Skytrak .. then I remembered reading about the Genius ball and thought "hmmmm.. would that work as a virtual practice range (paired with an app) indoors in the garage 'studio'?.." More interested in working on yardages, especially short game, vs full shot stats or game sim. Contacted Oncore and asked, "I know it's still in development, but could it be used for indoor practice?" And received the following reply... Thanks Chuck, that is still to be determined. As projections stand now we need about 30 feet of flight to capture all the data but its possible that gets reduced. Will keep you up to date. Thanks, Steve Steve Coulton, Co-Founder OnCore Golf So, unfortunately, unless that "30 feet" constraint changes that kinda kills the indoor practice idea; but it could potentially be a useful training tool in a large enough backyard. WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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